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Title: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: carlfoster on December 12, 2006, 04:32:35 pm
Hi all

As you may know I have started developing a new window cleaning program, which will be available to a wider range of people, and be free to use.

Here is a screenshot of the main display.

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/carljfoster/NewRoundOrganiser.jpg)

I would like your opinion on the user interface. Is it aesthetically pleasing? Does it look professional and hopefully it will still be easy to use.

Any suggestions are of course welcome.

thanks
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on December 12, 2006, 04:37:44 pm
lt looks good to me carl
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: Paul Coleman on December 12, 2006, 04:41:59 pm
Hi all

As you may know I have started developing a new window cleaning program, which will be available to a wider range of people, and be free to use.

Here is a screenshot of the main display.

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/carljfoster/NewRoundOrganiser.jpg)

I would like your opinion on the user interface. Is it aesthetically pleasing? Does it look professional and hopefully it will still be easy to use.

Any suggestions are of course welcome.

thanks

It is aesthetically pleasing Carl.  It looks like it was written for Windows XP.  OK, so I know there is a lot more to a program than eye candy but if it looks nice, is functional, and isn't too steep a learning curve then you're well on the way.
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: MNWC on December 12, 2006, 07:24:41 pm
Carl

I am was going to buy George in the new year. It has everything that a window cleaner needs !

Personaly i would be looking for-

1) weekly clean schedule.
2) fortnightly clean.
3) four weekly clean.
4) eight weekly clean.

Plus each Sunday night  you should be able to print your whole weeks work out  at the touch of a button.

Hope that helps.
Marcus
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: thewindowcleaner1 on December 12, 2006, 07:54:24 pm
Looks good Like the information top left (can this be changed to weeks totals ?
also can the days/weeks work be loaded onto a palm?
I have used a self designed data base for 10 years now but I am always on the look out for better systems.

Alan
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: carlfoster on December 12, 2006, 09:01:18 pm
Glad you like the look so far  :)

Marcus: This system will allow you to create your own frequencies, weekly, fortnightly, monthly even annually if you want. You will also have various options for printing your work. It can be according to rounds, next so many houses, or a weeks work is a good idea too.

Alan: The little summary at the top corner will have 3 settings which you will be able to choose. Either monthly summary, weekly or annual. I plan to have a way of using a palm or hand held computer.
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: Cleaner Windows on December 12, 2006, 09:28:46 pm
looks good carl. looks like it would be straight forward to use etc. i like it when you dont need to  mess about too much. one click and its done type thing with not too many options to add confusion or at least have the basic functions in front of you and have a seperate bit for advanced features etc.
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: carlfoster on December 12, 2006, 09:54:49 pm
looks good carl. looks like it would be straight forward to use etc. i like it when you dont need to  mess about too much. one click and its done type thing with not too many options to add confusion or at least have the basic functions in front of you and have a seperate bit for advanced features etc.

Yes, that is the plan. There will be basic features accessed at the click of a button and then more advanced features for those who want.
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: jeff1 on December 12, 2006, 10:02:15 pm
I am using carls original version of round organiser, and I must admit is very good, and I do like the look of the new one, well done Carl, looking forward to its release.
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: DaveWilkinson on December 13, 2006, 01:23:25 am
Carl you have said this is going to be free to use, are you planning on charging for it in the future, this looks like a nice program and I recon will be very popular, if you dont want to sell the program how about putting it out as a shareware program where you leave it down to the user if he likes it and uses it to make a donation into a paypal account.
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: seanmcshane on December 13, 2006, 06:28:05 am
is this it?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/The-Best-Window-Cleaning-Software-for-Window-Cleaners_W0QQitemZ260064117032QQihZ016QQcategoryZ3769QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: S_RICHARDSON on December 13, 2006, 08:16:50 am
Hi I think the old style was good and this is even better!! 

COOL!   :D
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: Trevor Knight on December 13, 2006, 09:02:13 am
Think I missed the boat on this one!!

Can you tell me how the rounds are organised i.e. weekly/monthly? The reports facility, what reports can you run?

Looks good though  ;)
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: carlfoster on December 13, 2006, 10:08:03 am
Carl you have said this is going to be free to use, are you planning on charging for it in the future, this looks like a nice program and I recon will be very popular, if you dont want to sell the program how about putting it out as a shareware program where you leave it down to the user if he likes it and uses it to make a donation into a paypal account.

Yes Dave, the program will be free to download and use for an unlimited time. I will consider shareware. Thanks for the suggestion.  ;)
is this it?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/The-Best-Window-Cleaning-Software-for-Window-Cleaners_W0QQitemZ260064117032QQihZ016QQcategoryZ3769QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

No Sean, that is a completely different program. That one isn't free either.

Think I missed the boat on this one!!

Can you tell me how the rounds are organised i.e. weekly/monthly? The reports facility, what reports can you run?

Looks good though ;)

Trevor, I have organised it so that it's as versatile as possible. So, you can create your own frequency for the rounds, anything from daily to annually to infinity (not quite  ;)  ) You could also have one round for domestic and one for commercial. For those who don't divide their work into rounds, you would only need one round which would contain all your work.

The reporting will be quite versatile too. You can view and print your work list for the day, and set it to only show those houses which are due to be done, so the 2 monthly ones don't show. You can print all the rounds, or select certain ones. You can also do something similar with debt reports. Other reporting include financial ones to help with your book keeping. You will be able to keep a record of expenses too.
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: Lee. on December 13, 2006, 10:17:18 am
Hi Carl
I have been using George for 3 years now and I am very impressed however I would love to trial it to see how it compares. I am always open to new ways.


regards

Lee
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: Trevor Knight on December 13, 2006, 12:05:20 pm
Thanks for that Carl,

Look forward to trying it out.

Regards,

Trev
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: cleanwave on December 13, 2006, 04:10:34 pm
Carl,

Looks excellent to me.  I think I saw one of your old posts a while back, but is a version of your programme already available to use ?  If not, when will your new one be ready to download and try out ?  I'd be very interested to try it as I'm looking at better ways to organise things at the moment.

Cheers

Matt
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: carlfoster on December 13, 2006, 07:40:05 pm
Hi Matt

This is the original version of Round Organiser.

http://www.freewebs.com/matthiasdete/Round%20Organiser%20Setup.exe

I have been running it for a few months now. This version requires you to have Microsoft Access installed on your computer, and as many don't have that, I am making the new version.

You can still use this one if you want and when the new one comes out the data stored will be compatible.

Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: D.Salkeld_Ltd on December 13, 2006, 07:58:49 pm
 Carl,

I look forward to the New Look. Keep up the good work :D :D

David Salkeld
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: cleanwave on December 14, 2006, 07:25:59 pm
Thanks Carl - there was a message saying the files were corrupted, but I've just found out I don't have Access anyway.  Do you have an idea of when your new version might be ready ?

Cheers

Matt
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: pjulk on December 14, 2006, 10:13:08 pm
That looks good carl.

I see it says accounts.
Is this something like commercial accounts or is there somewhere to put your expenditures in.
Also will it have a diary view so you could see what work for each day of that week.

Paul
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: wrighty on December 14, 2006, 10:20:00 pm
Looks good and professional.  Give me a shout when it is live and I will be more than happy to give it a whirl.

wrightcraigw@blueyonder.co.uk

Regards,

Craig
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: carlfoster on December 14, 2006, 10:30:36 pm
Thanks Carl - there was a message saying the files were corrupted, but I've just found out I don't have Access anyway. Do you have an idea of when your new version might be ready ?

Cheers

Matt

I don't have a release date yet Matt, sorry. Hopefully sometime during the first quarter of the new year I can have a release out for testing.

That looks good carl.

I see it says accounts.
Is this something like commercial accounts or is there somewhere to put your expenditures in.
Also will it have a diary view so you could see what work for each day of that week.

Paul

Paul, the accounts section will be an area where you can enter expenses and get reports on various things like total earnings over specific periods, gross and net, I might look at adding projected earnings. The main focus will be on providing statistics that will help us fill in end of year tax.
A diary view is an excellent idea and is something I will be working on. I don't have any specifics on that yet though.
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: carlfoster on December 23, 2006, 12:01:28 pm
Hi all, i have been working hard on the program and have finally got a working UI. I've got 2 minds as to whether I should post a link to download it so you can test out how easy the navigation is.

I thought I would just update you on the features that the program will have.

The program will have 4 main areas:

1) Workgroups
2) Jobs
3) Employees
4) Accounts

The Workgroups section will display your list of rounds, with a summary as to how many jobs there are in each and the average monthly value. You will be able to edit the Workgroup info here too. I also plan to have a diary view where you'll see a full calendar month showing each day of the month and what work is due on those days. This will make planning your months work a bit easier.

The Jobs section will contain a list of all the work that you have. You will be able to select from a variety of views, such as from particular Workgroups or from all of them. You can also do a search here to find specific customers. You will be able to select specific views to print out work lists and debt lists too, such as only customers who owe for more than 2 months etc.

This section will also contain a specific view for updating your work that's done and paid. This will be easily done using check boxes to mark work done and paid. I have introduced an optional feature where you will be able to keep a record of cheques paid in as well.

There will also be a way to set your work list in a specific order and also easily transfer customers from one workgroup to another.

The Employees section will help you keep track of your employees and how much work they do. You will be able to view various statistics etc.

In the Accounts section, you will be able to enter expenses and view income/expenditure reports. i know how we all hate doing our tax returns, so there will be a feature included where you'll be able to print out a report for the tax year outlining all your expenses and income, making it so much easier to fill in the tax forms.

Well, hopefully this gives you a better view of what to expect in the program.
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: MNWC on December 23, 2006, 12:05:05 pm
Carl
I Woul be interested in trying the above item as i was going to Trial George in the new year.

Marcus
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: Davew on December 23, 2006, 12:41:38 pm
Where can I get George or window cleaner professional and the like from?
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: carlfoster on December 23, 2006, 12:50:18 pm
Where can I get George or window cleaner professional and the like from?

Hi Davew

You are welcome to use this version of Round Organiser here.

http://www.freewebs.com/matthiasdete/Round%20Organiser%20Setup.exe

Thanks
Carl
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: Davew on December 23, 2006, 12:58:59 pm
Thanks Carl but unable to execute file on my laptop :-\ Do I need microsoft office?
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: carlfoster on December 23, 2006, 01:18:10 pm
Sorry, but yes Dave, you do need MS Access on your computer.:(  That's the main reason why I'm creating a new version which won't need Access.
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: Scrimble on December 23, 2006, 11:06:47 pm
i've downloaded it and i have access of my pc but it doesnt seem to work for me.
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: JohnL on December 24, 2006, 01:41:50 am
When will the non- access version be ready Carl? I dont have access or MS Office and dont plan to!

JohnL
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: carlfoster on December 24, 2006, 08:35:45 pm
i've downloaded it and i have access of my pc but it doesnt seem to work for me.

Sorry Mark, what happens when you try to run it?

When will the non- access version be ready Carl? I dont have access or MS Office and dont plan to!

JohnL

It will likely take me a month or 2 to get it up and running as this is not a full time job for me. I plan to make it possible to transfer your customers from an excel spreadsheet too, just to make moving over that bit easier :)
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: jeff1 on December 25, 2006, 12:59:31 am
Hi Carl

For a full time window cleaner to give up his spare time, to create an excellent Programme free of charge for his fellow window cleaners, in my eye's deserves a big round of applause. Well done carl and thank you!
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: DaveWilkinson on January 16, 2007, 09:07:22 pm
Hows it going carl, havnt heard anything for a while ?
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: Clear Vision on January 16, 2007, 09:35:25 pm
Carl,

This is the first I knew of your software!  :-[

How much is it?

How can I download it?

Cheers

Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: carlfoster on January 17, 2007, 11:41:50 am
Hi there

I am making steady progress with the program so far. I have created the basic functions and am now working on some internal configurations and calculations which are necessary for the various info displays and functions to work.

Carl,

This is the first I knew of your software! :-[

How much is it?

How can I download it?

Cheers



Matt, I have a free version of Round Organiser which requires you to have Microsoft Access on your computer. There is a link to this further back on this thread. I am currently working on a new version which will be a standalone program, requiring only windows to work.

I can reveal that there will be 2 final versions: Round Organiser basic and Round Organiser professional. Round Organiser basic will be free and will have ALL the basic functions that you would need to keep track of your work.

I'm hoping to have at least the basic version ready for trial within the next 2 months.
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: jeff1 on January 17, 2007, 11:43:42 am
Carl,

This is the first I knew of your software!  :-[

How much is it?

How can I download it?

Cheers


Its a free software prog, and you can download it from the T/A forum, its under carls section.
Title: Re: New look :)
Post by: WavieDavie on January 17, 2007, 04:35:19 pm

. . . I plan to have a way of using a palm or hand held computer.

Any idea on timescale for the PDA version, Carl. How long after the "basic software" trial? I'd be interested in the "professional" version for Palm.
Title: Re: New look :) (Updated info on Round Organiser)
Post by: carlfoster on January 18, 2007, 04:14:40 pm
I am still deciding which route to take on this, whether to have a complete standalone program for the PDA or whether to use a note program within the PDA to open a file containing the work list for the day.

I have been concentrating more on the other aspects of the program so this hasn't got any kind of time scale plan. I suppose it depends how difficult it is once I get started.
If anyone has any suggestions as to the best way to do it, i'm always open to this. :)