Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Alan lillington on December 07, 2006, 10:58:42 pm
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Hi all
I am just running a survey to try and see how many federation of window cleaners members are on and use the forums.
Just for something I am work on over the last few months.
Could you please forward your details to myself:
Member number and company name. to alan@als-cleaning.co.uk or on forum.
Thank you in advance.
Alan Lillington
Executive Council Member F-W-C
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how much does it cost to join? what are they going to do for me?
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Hi JM
Membership is £85 take a look at the site www.f-w-c.co.uk
Benifits on there.
I just want to see how many members use the forums, sorry mate.
Regards
Alan
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Ta mate,I'll look into it.
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Ta mate,I'll look into it.
No problem mate
Need any help give me a shout.
Regards
Alan
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Hi Alan I was a member but would not renew my mebership, because when Phillip Hansen asked to see the accounting books he was stalled then had his membership cancled and his cheque returned.
On the forum there was several post relating to this and the termination of Andew Mullens mebership for some questions he was raising.
Can you give the Federations side of thing's as we have only ever heard one side.
Dont think I'm beeing confontational but just wondering.
Roy
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Hi Roy
I have sent you an email
Alan
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Thankyou for the email.
Roy
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On the forum there was several post relating to this and the termination of Andew Mullens mebership for some questions he was raising.
Can you give the Federations side of thing's as we have only ever heard one side.
Dont think I'm beeing confontational but just wondering.
Roy
so what did happen with Andrew's issue,
did the members of the FED exec council cash in and are now sunning themselves on some tropical isle ?? ?? ?? or did they do the right thing and put it to the vote ?? ?? ??
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Sorry Guys I gave my word I would not make the contents of the email public.
May be in the future Alan will.
Roy
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so what did happen with Andrew's issue,
did the members of the FED exec council cash in and are now sunning themselves on some tropical isle ?? ?? ?? or did they do the right thing and put it to the vote ?? ?? ??
Im a member and I was wondering too
and if they did,did they enjoy it ;D
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Another quick question is why do they want to know ???
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;D
Roy
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kevin dixon no:8081
WINDOLENE
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any organisation which operates a closed shop policy regarding information should not be entertained.
Why don`t we all email him and ask about the issues raised above and then we can get some answers.
Accounts should be made freely available to members who pay the subscriptions. Any questions arising should be answered openly and honestly.
If people have nothing to hide, they would shout it from the rooftops.
Hiding behind private messages and swearing the person party to the knowledge to secrecy stinks of something untoward.
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Hi all
This is the one thing which I hoped would not happen, I really did not want this to start into a public arena to down the fed.
One thing I would like to make clear is that I had nothing to do with the society council I am not on it, I would not gain at all financially what ever happens at the end of it.
One of the reasons for the post is that we are not allowed to have any records for contact details of the members so I have put this up to get my own, over the next couple of months I am going to be working on different kinds of projects and was getting a list together to see what members would be interested to it later.
The name and numbers are just so I can see who are members and if all going well will help me contact them.
That's all, nothing secret just that.
Hope this will calm the post down now and hope members carry on passing their details to me.
Cheers
Alan
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The reason I would not join the federation is I really can't see what I would get for my £85, used to belong to the Federation of Master Window cleaners years ago, take it this is the same org.
Decided it was a waste of money then & haven't seen anything to change my mind since.
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Out of Interest again ;D why cant you as an Executive of the Council Access my Details?
My Membership number is 10736..........
Please memorise this number and Destroy the Message
once you have obtained my details ;D ;D
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abacus cleaning contractors ltd
grant gardner
member no 8182
contact details shown
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One thing I would like to make clear is that I had nothing to do with the society council I am not on it, I would not gain at all financially what ever happens at the end of it.
so thats you, steve lowe and the other guy who came on here ( i forget his name ), you must have been the 3 who "abstained from the vote"
Hi all
This is the one thing which I hoped would not happen, I really did not want this to start into a public arena to down the fed.
but as soon as some1 from the fed exec commitee comes on here, they will be asked the question, as the world of window cleaners wanted to know / were shocked at the whole episode
where is Andew M anyways, not seen him around for a bit
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Hi Alan
Hows it going, Give us a ring when you get time, I have lost your number
8842 ex member
I am no longer allowed to join, I wonder why ? lol
Dave
APWC
Vice Chairman
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Dave
Nice to know you're in charge of vice ;)
Were you a member who wasn't allowed to renew, or was an application to re-join after an absence knocked back?
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all this cloak and dagger stuff is great isnt it
the great swindle continues :P
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No I did not renew as we set up a new association.
I have heard from a reliable source, that it is now written into the constitution that apwc members cannot join the fed
Dave
p.s I am in charge of vice and the chairs
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Any idea what happens to existing Fed members who join APWC - do they automatically get chucked out?
So if I have a British Gas service contract on my gas boiler, but own another house for rent and have a different maintenance firm look after the central heating on that, one of them will tell me to get lost? Flaming rseholes!
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Davie
Sorry that post was misleading, what i should of said was apwc committee members cannot join the fed.
Sorry for the confusion
Dabe
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Unless they were also committee members on the fed, I don't see a conflict of interests, just a cutting off ofsomeone's nose to spite their face.
Ah well.
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I'd like to join an association that the general public are aware of and when
you are asked each time by a new customer, are you a member of xxxxx
Now that would be money worth spent as the name is getting me business.
Maybe one day.
<---------------- ;D ;D
Doug
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I have been recently awarded some large contracts locally, and being a member of an association helped swing it my way.
I mentioned my apwc membership, my bwca training and shown them my h&s policy , they were very impressed by everything and the whole thing is now snow balling.
I belonged to an association for 6 years and never really saw any benefit, But i know 100% me being a member of one impressed them this time around.
You never know when you may need it.
Dave
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Roy Harding
Did the content of the E-mail change your views at all?
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Roy Harding
Did the content of the E-mail change your views at all?
No just confirmed what I thought.
Roy
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well i guess what andrew said was the truth
as
a. some1 would have been around to deny it
b. the FED would have been onto the lawyers (as they have in the past)
so did it all take place then, is it done and dusted ?? ?? ?
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One thing I would like to make clear is that I had nothing to do with the society council I am not on it, I would not gain at all financially what ever happens at the end of it.
so thats you, steve lowe and the other guy who came on here ( i forget his name ), you must have been the 3 who "abstained from the vote"
Hi all
This is the one thing which I hoped would not happen, I really did not want this to start into a public arena to down the fed.
but as soon as some1 from the fed exec commitee comes on here, they will be asked the question, as the world of window cleaners wanted to know / were shocked at the whole episode
where is Andew M anyways, not seen him around for a bit
Hi all
Matt
Your on the ball no fly's on you.
Johnboyfree - I don't know why we are not just that the majority of us have our hands tied big time, must admit there have been a few of us on the committee who have said how frustrating it can be because when the flake is aimed at the fed it may not be down to everyone. you know what I mean.
As you requested this post will self destruct in 30 seconds......BOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM
Hi Dave - Sorry I am not allowed to talk to you, I'll get permission and get back to you. ;D
It was interesting what you put I do not know what happened at the last meeting as needed to get my work done before xmas.
It'll be interesting what the others say.
Same here mate not got your number mine are on my profile.
Thank you to everyone who has posted and given me details.
Regards
Alan
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Hi all
Matt
Your on the ball no fly's on you.
Johnboyfree - I don't know why we are not just that the majority of us have our hands tied big time, must admit there have been a few of us on the committee who have said how frustrating it can be because when the flake is aimed at the fed it may not be down to everyone. you know what I mean.
As you requested this post will self destruct in 30 seconds......BOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM
Hi Dave - Sorry I am not allowed to talk to you, I'll get permission and get back to you. ;D
It was interesting what you put I sis not know what happened at the last meeting as needed to get my work done before xmas.
It'll be interesting what the others say.
Same here mate not got your number mine are on my profile.
Thank you to everyone who has posted and given me details.
Regards
Alan
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I have been recently awarded some large contracts locally, and being a member of an association helped swing it my way.
I mentioned my apwc membership, my bwca training and shown them my h&s policy , they were very impressed by everything and the whole thing is now snow balling.
I belonged to an association for 6 years and never really saw any benefit, But i know 100% me being a member of one impressed them this time around.
You never know when you may need it.
Dave
Well done Dave but the thing I would like to see is I am a member of xxxx, its the customer asking for member of xxxx. Now that will be a winner.
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Used to be not no more. Apart from the logo on my van i didnt really use them for anything and being a member did not get me any more work.
I am though a member of safe contractor which i have gained alot of work from as commercial companys like the idea of not having to have lots of paper work as the certificate shows that you have proven you have good safty practices and risk assesments etc dont need to be done.
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Used to be not no more. Apart from the logo on my van i didnt really use them for anything and being a member did not get me any more work.
Should the one of the aims of a window cleaning association or federation be to just get you more work?
Surely there should be other, more high-brow reasons?
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Should the one of the aims of a window cleaning association or federation be to just get you more work?
No,the Federations Aim should never be to get you more work,that is solely youre domain...
It should Promote Safe Practises within the Industry where possible...
To Raise the Publics Awareness of the Proffesionalism of that trade...
To set minimum guide lines or standards of work...
To make it Known that All its Members are Fully Insured,Trained to Minimum legal Requirements where Specialized Equipment is Used
To Represent its Members at Local Government Level and At National Level if Required(to Argue Against Drought Orders)etc.etc.and Lots More that I cant think off at the moment.... ;D ;D
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Should the one of the aims of a window cleaning association or federation be to just get you more work?
Surely there should be other, more high-brow reasons?
What are they then because someone obviously failed to let me know ? The only time i ever heard from them was when my subscription needed re-newing?
Never had the "tender" magazine. Couldnt help me when my van was involved in an accident ..i found better insurance from another broker ........ the window cleaning supplies are more expensive than most you find on the net?
Please advise me again then apart from that logo what was i paying "80 odd quid " for?