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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jacko on December 01, 2006, 10:28:35 pm
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Hi Guys
Which of these Portables would you choose and why..... i have narrowed my choice to these four - is there one i should be considering that is not there?
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Perhaps we should have another sunny day out to compare all the latest portys and equipment, chemicals etc and put them to the test.
John
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I've owned a Ninja and have used the Speedster, Power Flite and Scorpion. After using the Scorpion I purchased one.Three vac's in parallel on 2" Truck - mount hose and slotted Glide, awesome airflow and drying times.
The only thing I want is some additional heat, so I'm in the process of buying an inline heater. I prefer inline as I don't want to put excessive heat through the pump and damage it.
Most of the time I don't need great amounts of heat as I use Microsplitters but it will boost the cleaning on commercial jobs.
Regards Rob
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TM scorpion sounds good!
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ive owned a few , inculding speedsters and ninjas , for all round performance and spec and build q the top range ninja wins any day , rob all the ninjas and speedsters built in heaters heat after the pump
gary
p.s also rember if u hav two machines its pretty simple to link both up so u hav 4 vacs
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Hi, Gary the Ninja I had was 3kw internal tank element type and went through the pump,but I prefer the inline as you get little heat loss at the Wand.
Also with 2" Truck-mount hose the airflow is awesome,I run upto 22.5 m from the van no problem with a 3m 1.5" wip for manoeuvrability round furniture.
The Alltec Millennium has the same setup you speak of but in one machine,vac's still in series I prefer 3 in parallel there's more cfm's.
Regards Rob
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Do you guys know of any other members who use TM Porty's?
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we use ninja we have the 135 psi,thats a very good machine, god knows what the 400 psi is like me finks might trade up to the 400 psi, gary you have one I fink,is there big differance :-\ from the 135 more suction :-\
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We use our scorpion truckmounted 90% of the time. I'd try and post a picture of the setup later. Suction is fantastic, we did a really bad flood this week and the amount of water recovered was great.
Like Robert, I too am looking for an in-line heater to use with the machine but have still not decided on which one.
Cheers,
Huw.
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Robert,
Have you a tank with your Scorpion.
Do you still have to buy all the tools, does that not put about £400 on the price.
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Seems like the Scorpion may fit the bill. Speed of set up but half the price of a truckmount. I no there's no dierect compaison but as I plan only doing 2/3 jobs till about 2pm so can't justify a proper TM.
Having said that another 3k get you a prowler.
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With a bit of luck a picture of my set up can be seen below:
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Seerclean ,Sorry i do not know your name but can you post picture of side of you van to show the remaining space as i am thinking of getting a new porty and i am looking at ninja or the scorpion I must admit that it does look good with the tanks along side Des
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Nice one. For some reason I assumed you would have a reel for hoses. Looks like a smalish van what is it?
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It's a vivaro SWB. The carpet cleaning equipment takes up the back half of the van with a panel dividing the front half which has all our window cleaning setup and 400ltr tank for carrying pure water.
There's still quite a bit of space left in front half of van for all our other bits and bobs we use for builders cleans, even holds my industrial pressure washer!
The van is at our office so I can't take picture of front half today.
Cheers,
Huw.
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Hi Ian,
No, I do not have tanks at present time, but shall get them in near future.
I have had the tools that come with Scorpion but paid for machine in advance and received 10% discount, which brought machine down to just over £3000 with VAT.
rgds rob
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Hi Rob,
Which in-line heater are you thinking of getting?
Cheers,
Huw
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these tanks are reasonably priced.
http://www.cleantech.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_25
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A mate of mine purchased a scorpion about 5 weeks ago. He loves it !
He had a ninja before, says the performance is FAR better.
He uses it truckmounted, with a flat type tank for fresh water and the proper scorpion Aux waste tank.
Hes got it fitted in a Scudo, i will see if i can get any pics.
He also carrys a dry solvent machine and dry fusion set up, all on the van at the same time !
He says that at 75ft he cant tell any difference in suction than at 25ft.
Also when using the Aux waste tank he doesnt notice any drop in power.
He uses a ashbys steammate for heat, but fills up the tank with hot water in the morning and so often doesnt need to use any form of water heater..
regards
Chris
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Hi Huw,
I'm going to purchase the Meteor 2kw inline heater sold by Solutions uk.
The reason is two 1kw elements work indpendant of each other and the suppliers of my Scorpion endorse it, so I know it to be compatible with my machine.
P.s as Chris mentioned the 3kw V2 Steam-mate is a good option,but the Meteor is cheaper and lighter though has slightly less heat at 2kw.
Regards Rob
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Robert was that cash or card.
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Who else sells the meteor?
Huw
Flood job how much leaked and how much did you recover. ???
Think you may be over weight by your post, so take care, cant see you dumping pure water. Are any of your water containers baffled?
Len
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Hi Ian,
Payed on credit card, so had a months grace before I settled my bill in full,£2804.98 + vat = £3295.87.
I had a few extra's at that, comes with tools, 15m of 2" vac hose and solution pipe, I had extra 7.5m of each.
Regards Rob
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who makes th scorpion??
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rob the v2 is so much better heater,.,
faster hotter and u get lot better results trust me i hav got other 2000w heaters and they dont come close to it
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who makes th scorpion??
http://www.worldofclean.co.uk/index.php
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Hi Len,
The 400ltr tank is baffled, and is not always full. The two smaller tanks supplied by solutions are not baffled and the waste tank is usually emptied after each job.
Still can't decide between the steamate and the meteor heater?
Cheers,
Huw.
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I'd go for the Speedster over the Scorpion every time.
It seems to me you're paying about £1000 more for an extra vacuum motor with the Scorpion and you don't even get a heater. Plus all those plugs and cables everywhere and an external heater to mess around setting up - 4 lots of plugs if you have heat and booster box? I struggle to find 2 seprate circuits to plug into sometimes!
If you must have 3 vac motors, why not get a Speedster with built in heat and add a booster box?
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I currently run a Rhino 3x3 stage vac. I have to say so far has been an excellent machine so far giving excellent results with a great heat exchanger included purchased from Matt from Cleansmart for a good price, alot of machine for the money, not sure how it compares to other portables but if I were looking for another would either be The Scorpian or Speedster, both look good, The Speedster looks like good value to me.
Nigel.
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Thanks Chris,, and why oh why do manufactures always fit black wheels onto there machines????
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When you guy's are plugging all this stuff in dont you fuse the customers electricity?
I always find a lot of customers are doing their washing & Ironing while I am cleaning their carpets.
You must all go through a lot of fuse wire.
Phil
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hi thinking of getting rhino machine does anyone no the height
of the machine as a need it to fit in my zafaria got a powermax and that fits
cheers darren
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I'm surprised the Mytee Speedster is doing so well, considering I've hardly heard anyone talk about it, just think how well it would have done if the manufacturer had gone on all the bulletin boards and give it lots of free advertising
just shows quality will always shine through :)
Mike
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I think you'll find that most porti's are roughly the same size and shape nowa days.
I was surprised by the Scorpion at how light is and compact.
I've had this problem before with the plug thing, but I use a TM so it's not really that relivant to me.
Shaun
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Ive not blown 1 fuse with my scorpion, it just needs 2 plugs and away you go.
Heat from tap is all ive ever used, and if I was using the booster it would be 150ft away from the machine so no worry's there as well.
With the 500psi high flow quad cell pump and 3 vacs heat is replaced in the cleaning pie imo, and I like the fact all available power is used on the vacs and pump. The other thing that swung it for me was the weight, at 85 lbs it a third lighter than most machines and goes up steps easy, so that was me sold.
A new porty should be picked too suit your business and its unique requirements, so if you want a demo Merv your welcome to pop down the road too me. ;)
Mark
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Hi Mark,
Have you got the Auxiliary Tanks and what size hose do you use, diameter, lenth,whips,etc. Have you any pictures.
Regards ROB
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Hi Rob,
I dont use the tanks, for me it would be no quicker as I work with helper, I can have it off the van and filled up at the door in a matter of mins while the other person is vacing and pre-spraying.
I use normal 1 1/5 pipe and have 18, 25, 33, 50 ft lengths in the van but most of the time I use the 33ft for doing a house. Ive had a go on the 2" stuff its good.
Mark
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phil i hav only ever fused one property in years and it was very old eletrics, with modern electrics u will only ever trip it out not blow the fuse
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i need to get out more ive never heard of any of the gear you lot have used :o due to only dealing with extrata for the last 25 years guess i need to try some of these units out too see if any are better then my exl,s
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Remember all the hype surrounding the eclipse that seems to have died a death.Not even on the list, if god forbid I needed to return to using a porty the speedster would be my choice quietly made its mark and heard good reports about it.
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Hi Guys,
I`v pretty much made my mind up to get a Speedster.
My main concern is the weight, after being used to a Steampro.
How worried should I be? I know I can run extra lengths of hose
but it will still have to be humphed up the stairs on occasions on my own.
Cheers Rab
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surprised on some comments on the mytee/speedster machines its been about years
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hi Rabby
i also have the speedster had it for about 2 months now
all in a very good machine for the money.
getting it up stairs is not really a problem
just take it up back wards it has 10 inch wheels
on the back so fairly easy.
it wont be much harder than the steampro machine
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hi, what type pumps u got in your speed/mytee macnies? not cat pumps are they ?
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I regularly take my rhino 3 vac machine (heavier I think than Speedster) up stairs without any problems, big wheels with these machines make it a breeze.
As for tripping switches, will admit it has only happened to me twice, but at one of these properties the customer informed me that she had dodgy electrics and that sometimes even happened when she put the iron on.
I have done many jobs with the Rhino now and it has been great for me.
Nigel.
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ive heard from one suplier that the pump on the mytee speedster is not very reliablel so now i was going to go for the hydro-vantage 300psi chemspec.
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the cat pumps are crap, but this is what was in my mytee machines
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Darren72,
The pump in the Speedster is a pumptec pump, the same as the one in the Hydro Vantage - which supplier told you that?
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the big pumptec pumps are very good , hav one what is still going strong after 6 years
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Gary is that what the 400psi pump is on the Ninja?
I'm considering upgrading by getting one of those and a vac box and if I win the lottery a steamate too.
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evening mike , yes its whats on the ninja , i also fitted them into my seahawk/mytee/speedster machines about 6 years ago, what setup u using now ? i run my machines from van all the time and not really felt the need for vac booster, also i can and hav linked two machines together just for fun mind (i need to get out more lol)
gary
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May upgrade myself but by upgrading my ninja's. Pimp my Ninja!
Gary,
Still got a standard Ninja, but need more speed, hence truckmount idea.
Just wondering if my vacmotors are under par cos at 50ft I'm overly not impressed.
If I move up to 400psi will I need to change all my jets, and if so to what?
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i use a twin jet wand with 02 jets on all my machines, what vacs u got mike? ive used my machines for years tm diff it makes is vast mike makes u work like stroll in the park
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Vacs? Dunno, standard ones I guess. Spose there are any more efficient ones I can replace them with? I reckon if I could tm half my jobs ie under 75ft I would be happy for now.
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mike i use 100ft hose every job and its fine never get complaints from custys, prob four main things to think of in tm portys big pump, built in heater at least 3000 w, fresh water tank with pump, auto dump
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mike i use 100ft hose every job and its fine never get complaints from custys, prob four main things to think of in tm portys big pump, built in heater at least 3000 w, fresh water tank with pump, auto dump
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mike i use 100ft hose every job and its fine never get complaints from custys, prob four main things to think of in tm portys big pump, built in heater at least 3000 w, fresh water tank with pump, auto dump
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???
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jb cleaning it was cleaningmachinesltd that told me that the pumps in the speedster were not very good but then again they are selling the hydro-vantage.
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Might get a gauge then cos no way would mine be any use at 100ft.
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is the Pumtec pump the same as an induction pump.
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the 400 psi pumptec pump is a direct drive piston pump(fitted to a motor)
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mike when u hav lower powerd pumps and not good heat imex u allways tend to put lot more water onto the carpet, in my own tests i done with high powerd portys at 50 and 100 ft i could c no diff in water recoverd
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Call Cleansmart they have an inline heater that is very powerfull and it will not brake the bank
They are distributors of our products