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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: D.Salkeld_Ltd on November 28, 2006, 08:22:58 am

Title: 35' Pole!
Post by: D.Salkeld_Ltd on November 28, 2006, 08:22:58 am

I have afew jobs I use an Unger 5 section Tele Pole for.  But the screw cones are a real pain in the hand!!
I'd like your opinions and advise on where to get an economy 35' pole that will be better.
Best price and quality from your experiences please

David
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: D.Salkeld_Ltd on November 28, 2006, 06:31:20 pm
No One got any ideas then!!

David
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: master cleaner on November 28, 2006, 06:33:06 pm
when you say economy how much do you mean

gary
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: spotless2000 on November 28, 2006, 06:44:14 pm
I use a Brodex Ecolite Commercial Carbon 35' £385.

Good pole but I changed the hose that came with it.

Haven't used any other carbon poles so can't compare.

Steve

Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: P @ F on November 28, 2006, 06:52:23 pm
Hi spotless , im in the market for the same sort of pole , do you have a link so i can see it please .
Icurrently use the 6x6 excel and its a total nightmare , i hate using it , shame really , its like brand new {DAVE }  ;D

  rICH p @ f
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: S.A.J on November 28, 2006, 06:59:27 pm
I think this is it

http://www.brodexbms.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=2&products_id=71

http://www.brodexbms.co.uk/shop/index.php?cPath=2&osCsid=d69e235b17bd50a922ac85f0e039fb73
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: master cleaner on November 28, 2006, 07:03:45 pm
are these brodex poles telescopic

gary
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: S.A.J on November 28, 2006, 07:06:26 pm
are these brodex poles telescopic

gary

Yes
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: D.Salkeld_Ltd on November 28, 2006, 07:11:42 pm
Thanks Lads,

What do you think of the Gardener Poles, Premium Glass fibre assemblies?

David
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: master cleaner on November 28, 2006, 07:16:29 pm
are these brodex poles telescopic

gary

Yes


what is the weight of the 30ft carbon , i have been looking at the facelift pole as i already have 2 of them but the 30ft facelift carbon is £600
any info on the brodex pole would be very helpful

gary
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: H h20 on November 28, 2006, 07:20:02 pm
Thanks Lads,

What do you think of the Gardener Poles, Premium Glass fibre assemblies?

David
Hi Dave,iv`e got one for sale,like new used it twice,Gaz
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 28, 2006, 07:25:57 pm
Not really relevant but facelift now available in the USA
http://www.reachhigherground.com/
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: P @ F on November 28, 2006, 07:30:33 pm
Gaz , is that the orange 6x6 foot excel ?

 What dont you like about it ?

 Rich P @ F
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: spotless2000 on November 28, 2006, 07:37:52 pm
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What do you think of the Gardener Poles, Premium Glass fibre assemblies

I brought a 6 section x 5' (30' pole) from them.  Just found it too heavy.

Went for the 35' Brodex I mentioned above - light, compared with glass fibre and rigid.

I can't fault Gardiner's smaller Universal poles or their service.

I use the following glass fibre Universals on a daily basis 2 x 3' and 4 x 5'.

Being vertically challenged, I find 5' sections easier to handle and store in the van.

Unfortunately the Brodex pole is 6' sections but this pole doesn't come out as often as my 20' pole.

Steve
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 28, 2006, 08:23:10 pm
The 38ft Exel Universal pole that we stock is a very cheap introduction to high level work and ideal if you have a limited use for work this high. Often customers have bought this pole for just one or two contracts they have. I personally would not use it for extended work periods (although I used to for many years!)

 For work where you are going to be doing a lot more high level work, the Facelift 6x6ft glass fibre pole is another option (We have all facelift poles on a special at the moment, with Free Delivery)

34ft (Reach) 6x6ft Sections 10" Gooseneck 14" Brush Only 4.05Kg - Complete with Brush & Gooseneck £425

This pole weighs a useful 2.35kg less than the Exel pole but does cost twice as much. Whilst it is lighter than the Exel it is a few feet shorter and is more flexible than the exel. If you want it in Carbon Fibre it eliminates the flexibilty and brings the weight down to 3.08kg. (34ft Reach 6x6ft Sections 10" Gooseneck 14" Brush Only 3.08Kg - Complete with Brush & Gooseneck £675)

The other option that I personally use is a Super-Lite 35, this is based as many know on high quality Carbon-Fibre Fishing Pole technology. For extended use no other pole is as easy to use (I have personally tried most of them). The SL-35 weighs 1.65kg complete with brush and Professional gooseneck. Whilst it has the disadvantage of not being telescopic it has the advantage of being modular, so you only use the sections you need and you add sections as you need them to go up to 60ft. At 23ft (4 sections) it weighs just 950 grammes, including brush and gooseneck, you can literally use it all day without feeling any strain. The SL-35 is a similar price to the Facelift pole.

Another option is the Brodex Eco-Lite as has been stated, which are good value, they have the 35ft Carbon on offer at the moment (no I'm not on commission!), I have not found out the exact weight of these but from memory they are a bit heavier than the Ionics CF Ergo-Lite but lighter than the CF Universal, or the Ionics Ergo-lites which are also very good poles if not a little on the pricey side.

The other options are the Carbonized and Unger Carbontec poles, both very similar in concept. They both have the advantage of being modular but are relatively heavy in use. The unger is about 6.5kg at 35ft.

I hope that the information supplied has been of some use to you.

Please note that a lot of the opinions above are based purely on my own use with these poles within the framework of my own commercial contract work and in no way represent a complete assessment or a final evaluation of all the equipment mentioned.

Alex Gardiner
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: carlfoster on November 28, 2006, 09:36:57 pm
Try Jeff Brimble, he will make a nice carbon pole for you cheaper than anything else carbon fiber you can find
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: TDW on November 28, 2006, 09:59:01 pm
Just bought a 35' supalite. Cant wait to use it tomorrow as it is literally as light as a feather. My 9 year old was holding it no problem.(fully extended)

I got a 30' glass fibre from Ionics that is now redundant that you can make me an offer on if you want. Although i know you want a 35'.

TDW
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: EasyClean on November 28, 2006, 09:59:59 pm
Very nice of Alex to post a very detailed and informative reply on this subject. It's a joy to use your 'supalite' carbon pole. I've adapted most of my Exel universal poles with your 'supalite' brush heads now!
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 28, 2006, 10:04:12 pm
Thanks Carl I still can, but have posted everything I know on Matts diy site or Pros under "Featherlites-Merry Christmas" part 3 is now updated to include prices.
Merry Christmas. :)
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: H h20 on November 28, 2006, 10:21:48 pm
Gaz , is that the orange 6x6 foot excel ?

 What dont you like about it ?

 Rich P @ F
Hi Rich,it`s the green one,it`s not i don`t like it it`s that my work is mostly done with my 18ft pole and the higher work is over 35ft so i use my carbon fishing pole as i can add sections on,Gaz
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Post by: *thomas james on November 28, 2006, 10:34:15 pm
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Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 29, 2006, 08:00:34 am
Thomas,

It is just the complete pole kits that have a two week wait (we have such a turnover of poles sales that we have to allow that to schedule assembly into the production line).

 The spares have a 2 day turnaround as long as they are in stock, which they usually are.

You will find that you do not need quite as long a pole as usual when using a Super-Lite, as you caneasily reach that little bit higher with no strain. On one commercial contract I went from using a 45ft Universal at full reach to using the Super-Lite at just 40ft, and it was far easier to work with.

Alex Gardiner


Alex
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: macmac on November 29, 2006, 01:03:51 pm
alex

the facelifts are also modular (in a sense) arn't they?
the sections just slip off each other, so, the facelift pole can be dismounted in no time at all, meaning- if you buy for example a 44ft pole it can be used as a 30ft pole or whatever (providing you buy or addapt some kind of base protection).
even the water pipe can be easily shortend via some JG-speedfit push in connectors. (all the above works as i've done it)
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 29, 2006, 02:38:39 pm
Hi Thomas,

It was only the 12 trial versions that had the problem of 'jamming'. With the help of our 'test pilots' we came up with an addition to the sections which completely resolves the separation issues, also as you mentioned each male section comes pretreated now with a coating which also makes taking apart much simpler, it really is quite easy to separate the sections.

Any of our 'Test Pilots' who had one of the 12 test poles can simply return their poles to us and for £30 we will modify all the sections and Insulate the bottom section to protect from risk of Electrocution! if required.

 Easyclean thanks with your feedback and help on the development of these poles your input was of great value.

Alex
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: TDW on November 29, 2006, 02:59:39 pm
Used it for the first time today and it is lighter than my 3x4 extender. A job I used to dread, standing on a step ladder with a 30' glass fibre Universal fully extended is now a piece of cake.

It does seem fragile though. Just nned to take of I suppose.
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 29, 2006, 07:06:29 pm
Hi Thomas,

As long as it not too windy!

I regularly walk my 45ft pole around between windows and it is really very easy to do. The pole has to be tried to be believed.

Hi TDW,

yes it does need to be treated with care, but if you do so it will reward you with years of easy cleaning.


Alex
Title: Re: 35' Pole!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 30, 2006, 07:53:30 am
At 45ft you would be amazed at the pressure that is automatically applied, the brush that has been chosen for this system has exactly the right bristle density to provide a very good 'scrub' to the glass.

Alex