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Title: bed bugs??
Post by: Mrs Nicholls on November 22, 2006, 05:53:28 pm
hi all, i posted this on  general but got directed here.

i have a house that has an infestation of some sort, of visable bugs in a bedroom, crawing on walls, carpets beds etc, and it needs sorting out ASAP, is this a carpet cleaners job? can anyone help? its in Shrewsbury, and rather urgent.
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: gwrightson on November 22, 2006, 05:59:51 pm
lisa I wouldnt have thought they would be bed bugs,

How big are they?, perhaps a digi pic of one might help .im sure some body from your area is on here and may give you better answers.

geoff.
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: Mrs Nicholls on November 22, 2006, 06:01:57 pm
i havent actually seen them, the lettings manager for the property called me and said a student (student houses) had just moved in and in her bedroom found these disgusting crawing bug things, so i have no idea, other than it needs sorting asap, i thought it might have been a pest control thing and not a carpet cleaner thing.
thanks for your reply.
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: Geoff Jewkes on November 22, 2006, 06:11:17 pm
Sounds bad!! Try the local pest controller . I wouldn't have thought that bed bugs would be crawling up the walls!
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: woodman on November 22, 2006, 06:49:13 pm
Carpet cleaners can and do, deal with these situations quite easily, no guarantee that Pest Control would rid them of the problem.

Bed bugs do hide in walls and crevices where ever they can find them,even your clothes in a wardrobe, they come out a night when you get into bed and make it nice and warm for them to feed on you, but I doubt very much if any one would spot one crawling up a wall.
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: CARPET KNIGHTS on November 22, 2006, 07:00:33 pm
have seen them dead in a treated property and they are quite big, around 5 - 10 mm long

Cheers Goron
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: Geoff Jewkes on November 22, 2006, 08:48:28 pm
I didn't realise they could get so big and travel so far. Might get into this treatment next year
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: CARPET KNIGHTS on November 22, 2006, 10:43:26 pm
Don't get mixed up between bed bugs and dustmites they are different things!
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: 1aacclaim on November 22, 2006, 11:03:12 pm
Ive done two 'bed bug ' jobs in the last six months - very specialist job - was asked to do cleaning of student accomodation by specilist from London
had to wear disposable clothing /mask etc had to steam clean all fixture and fittings espicially skirting board/head board/matress . actually saw them crawling- little orange bugs. made me feel quite itchely. its becoming a seriouse problem. these were brought in country by Japness student who stayed a few days in Dubai. the accomation had to be closed down for 14 days while it was deinfested. check with environmental health as to disposal of infested items. This Guy from London said its becoming a big problem with the Bin men taking the bugs home with them   
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: BRSL on November 22, 2006, 11:08:55 pm
whilst sailing and diving we have encoutered bed bugs (big) on a lot of yachts esspecialy in Austarilia there we kept all our stuff on deck in the sun to try to kill a few then when we get back we tumble dry everything we took which always seems to work, so if working in these areas be carefull as it is very easy to spread them and they bite hard  :P :P :P
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: NigelD on November 22, 2006, 11:41:28 pm
You need a pest control expert
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: Cleaning Resource on November 22, 2006, 11:50:18 pm
sounds to me like woolley bugs
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: woodman on November 23, 2006, 12:02:17 pm
We all sleep with bed bugs every one has them they are completely harmless unless you suffer with an allergy.Then the droppings will cause a reaction such runny nose,sinusitis,asthma etc. They are not going to suck your blood dry or bite your head off. ;D

The is no need for the treatment described by Terry under normal circumstances, this had to be a major infestation and was probably not bed bugs at all.

You certainly don't need pest control.
 
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: David C on November 23, 2006, 12:48:45 pm
Sorry Woodman but your wrong bed bugs are nasty biting things that do a lot of damage to people.
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: CARPET KNIGHTS on November 23, 2006, 04:40:08 pm
yes woodman you are thinking about dustmites these are very small mites and are not visible to the naked eye.

Bed bugs are totally different like i said they are quite big and do bite and drink blood and leave nasty red marks!

Cheers Goron
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: woodman on November 23, 2006, 07:05:33 pm
Nah there not dangerous at all, if they feed on you all you will be left with is a small red spot I have never heard of anyone receiving 'serious damage' from a bite.

Read below from the goverments information sheet and put your minds at rest.


Bedbugs are more active at night, and infestations occur mainly in the bed-room and lounge areas. These insects need to be where a host is going to be, for an extended period. If in the bedroom, they will come out at night while the host is sleeping, from hiding places such as the frame and headboard of the bed, behind any loose or peeling wallpaper, cracks in wood-work or plaster, from behind ward-robes or bedside cabinets. In the lounge area, they favour soft furnishings and are often found around the arm joints of armchairs and settees. The bedbug feeds on the host by finding a bare patch of skin, through which it forces the feeding tube of its mouthparts, whilst at the same time injecting the host with its saliva. The saliva contains a chemical that prevents the blood from clotting. It is this substance that causes the itch and swelling associated with the ‘bite’. Although most people suffer irritation and loss of sleep through being bitten by these insects, some people appear unaffected. This can sometimes be caused by longterm exposure to an infestation where the body no longer ‘reacts’ to the insect’s saliva.


But watch out for the Dust Mite they really can chew your toes off ;D
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: carpetguy on November 23, 2006, 07:31:07 pm
I don't think what's being talked about here is bed bugs, but a beetle type creature which I've come accross in, almost exclusively, Asian homes.

I never made any particular attempt to eliminate them but Craftex and Ashbys and probably others have products which should easily deal with this problem

robbie
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: Mrs Nicholls on November 23, 2006, 11:24:08 pm
hi
i have seen the little criters now, definatly not bed bugs, they are some type of larvae crawing about, apparently lavae house beetles or lavae moths.
carpet cleaner says that allergy-stop products will work here, by treating all the carpets and furniture.
they are quite cute really. bout 5mm long with sort of long ridged body that has little black hairs or fuzz out of the ridges. and more than 6 legs, there legs were on the underneath and they scuttled abaout. looked like weird woodlice.
anyway, i'll keep you updated  just to offer information on the situation for future reference.

Thanks
Lisa

ps, when i was little we had an infestation of bed bugs in my matress, they bit me and they were horrible things, had to get rid of the bed. (it was a wooden framed bed, part of a bunk bed) i am allergic, as i have asthma. (sorry, just a little aside)
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: Mark Lane-Matthews on November 24, 2006, 09:11:29 am
Hi
Bed bugs can transfer blood related deseases and need to be treated by pest control for course of treatments ,but usally a cleaner would be called in to sanitise the area before treatments are applied

                                                         Mark
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: CARPET KNIGHTS on November 24, 2006, 12:51:14 pm
these are bed bugs
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: woodman on November 24, 2006, 02:54:13 pm
I was going to leave it as my last post as I think that says it all,however;

I must take issue with Marks post regarding tranfering of disease.

Bed bugs absolutely  DO NOT transfer any blood related disease what so ever and this must be made clear to all who decide to work in this field and any potential clients that you may have.

They are not dangerous and no prolonged course of treatments is required.

With all due respect Mark a believe you are refering to another bug but certainly not bed bugs.
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: Mark Lane-Matthews on November 24, 2006, 06:31:51 pm
I disagree with you Woodman ,i believe you are confusing dustmites with bed bugs and they certainly can transfer blood related deseases                                                     

                                                   Mark
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: Mike Osbourne on November 24, 2006, 07:04:01 pm

Bed bugs have always been assumed not to carry disease. However I believe there is some research to suggest they can carry Hep. B, Nasty!
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: woodman on November 24, 2006, 07:46:36 pm
I am not confusing dust mite with bed bugs you can not get a cross contamination from bed bugs, the hepatitis B scare was not proven and most accept they are a nuisance but not dangerous.At some point all of you would have slept with them.

If it was the case that Hepatitas or any other disease was transported by them then we would epidemic after epidemic.. it's simply not the case.

Travel Doctor Quotes it like this:

'Bed bugs do not carry any diseases but their bites can be uncomfortable. They tend to bite the face, arms and legs where they protrude from the bedclothes'

As far as I am concerned the subject is closed, I will leave others to believe and comment what they will.

Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: calmore on November 24, 2006, 07:51:43 pm
bed bugs are nasty biting things that do a lot of damage to people.

So not the wife, then?

 ;D
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: *paul_moss on November 24, 2006, 07:52:53 pm
Guy's what are you generalising bed bugs as ? ( real name please)
Dust mites are tiny and can only bee seen under very powerfull microscopes,it sounds like bed bugs that you refere to are a kind of beetle like creature.
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: calmore on November 24, 2006, 07:55:54 pm
FWIW, I was always under the impression that dust mites=bed bugs and were microscopic.

However, it seems "bed bug" is nowadays used as a generic term for any bug that lives in a bed.
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: calmore on November 24, 2006, 07:57:42 pm
More on bedbugs here, including species names:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bed_bug

(Looks like I was wrong: "A common misconception is that they are not visible to the naked eye")
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: *paul_moss on November 24, 2006, 08:01:10 pm
I dont think we find these in our country.Seem like more warmer climate bugs.
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: Mike Osbourne on November 24, 2006, 09:42:48 pm

Bed bugs are visible and dust mites are too small to see. The risk of catching hep B is probably very very low indeed, and there are no known cases, only theoretical because they have found hep in the bugs.

 Having said that Hep B has a 1% mortality rate.   
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: CARPET KNIGHTS on November 24, 2006, 10:22:36 pm
they are in this country have seen them in a treated home, loads of them dead. I have uploaded picturesof them already!
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: Cloverleaf on November 24, 2006, 10:41:40 pm
A pest control expert will charge you hundreds of £££ to spray 'permethrin' around your home which will KILL everything in it's track.

Do it yourself for under a tenner!  ;D

John
Title: Re: bed bugs??
Post by: Mark Lane-Matthews on November 24, 2006, 11:40:03 pm
The pest control company that i have dealings with are given the information on their course work that these bugs can transfer blood related deseases but info on the net says this is unlikely .but however they are very visable and not very nice things to have in your home.

                                                       Mark