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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: qwert on November 16, 2006, 02:24:02 pm

Title: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: qwert on November 16, 2006, 02:24:02 pm
Would anyone recommebd using these rather than trad brush head.  I'm about to buy a WFP system (domestic work) and want to know which brush head would be better.

Thanks
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 16, 2006, 02:50:20 pm
In my opinion a gooseneck is always easier to work with and is more rigid, so less wasted effort.

Alex
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: sair on November 16, 2006, 03:41:17 pm
thats not picking the kids up Alex ! 
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: qwert on November 16, 2006, 05:51:13 pm
In my opinion a gooseneck is always easier to work with and is more rigid, so less wasted effort.

Alex

Thanks Alex
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: marc on November 16, 2006, 05:58:31 pm
can you get a goose neck that you can put on when needed then take of when not ???????
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: macmac on November 16, 2006, 06:07:42 pm
qwert
you will need a goosneck, you can take them off if you want but i never take mine off and i'm mainley domestic too.
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 16, 2006, 06:09:19 pm
We have one on the way, that will be fully removable in seconds. But as Macmac said you will not want to take it off, we have a removable one as a prototype and it just stays on the pole for everything.

Sair- I picked the kids up after I posted the last message!

Alex
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 16, 2006, 06:40:20 pm
Can a goose neck be used at 90 degress to the glass (from a horizontal position) and at a distance, assuning the glass is at 0-180 degrees(vertical) ?
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: neil100 on November 16, 2006, 07:19:18 pm
My round is mainly Domestic.

I have some Gardiner poles with the metal Gooseneck but I dont like them. If you have the small vikan brush on it does not seam to sit right on the glass. The Brush seams to pivot on its edges a lot. The pole also feels heavier then one fitted with a plastic gooseneck. This is due mainly because the brush on a metal gooseneck sits further away from the pole, therefore the higher you go or the greater angle you use the pole at work,ie going over a Con roof, the heavier the pole gets.

The plastic goosenecks are great, you can adjust them for velux  windows, Windows above Con roofs etc. They are robust, I have never broken one.

The only fitment I put on the  plastic Gooseneck is a 4" cone which I screw onto the plastic Gooseneck then I screw the cone into the brush. This allows me to reach over deep sills. It gives the same reach as a metal gooseneck. It also stops you wearing the fibre glass pole down reaching over sills.

Nel.
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 16, 2006, 07:45:01 pm
Anyone got a pic of Nels plastic gooseneck or a link ?
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: rugby on November 16, 2006, 08:24:08 pm
the trouble with a goose neck is when you dont have much room to move around,ie at the side of some bay windows,you cant get the brush at the right angle to the glass.with an adjustable you can use your pole compleatly verticle if you need to,you get bl**dy wet though
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 16, 2006, 09:25:54 pm
Here is a picture from our website Jeff.

(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/anglecrank_copyrightGPS_do_not_use.jpg)

Alex
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 16, 2006, 09:29:13 pm
Thanks Alex, is that a goose neck or a cranked angle joint  ? I ask because I thought a goose neck was a curved  piece  of alu tube with a fixed head.

Modified..... I see after re reading Nels post that he does prefer the adjustable angle. Over the alu goose neck so maybe I should now ask anyone  is the brush on an alu  goose neck fixed or adjustable as in Alex's pic ?
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 16, 2006, 09:56:13 pm
Hi Jeff,

I suppose that would depend on the make of aluminium gooseneck.

We have in the past made for clients adjustable aluminium goosenecks. One type is with an aluminium arm bonded to the end of the plastic crank as pictured. The other type is a fixed aluminium goosenck bonded to the pole with one of the above plastic cranks fitted to the end to provide maximum variation of angle. Both types have fullfilled a purpose for the clients and they have been well pleased with them.

I personally don't use any type of adjustment, just a fixed head.

Alex
Title: Re: GOOSE NECK FOR DOMESTIC WORK??
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 16, 2006, 10:35:07 pm
Thanks for the patience, I now understand.
In the domestic market there are many situations where a fixed head will not get to tricky windows etc. As a wfper I want manufacturers to come up with a pole or brush with a "ball" bearing on the top that will allow the brush to move in 3D but is also torquable so that it can be fixed, semi stiff or loose. Ability to work left or right and adjusting easily to clean sills, gutters etc by quick change of the angle , at will from the ground with wrist control is something I cannot explain well, but also something I would not be without.
I also agree with Nel that a big offset increases the weight/torque/poundage at the end of the pole considerably and in most situations you need a light brush say 3" max from the pole. If you remove the brush from any pole and try using it without the brush you will experience the dramatic difference of a light brush....but maybe thats a different topic.