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Title: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: Pj on November 07, 2006, 11:16:14 pm
It seems very expensive to me for the job it does.

Anyone using it?

What do you think?

I hate to think I'm missing out!
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 08, 2006, 03:25:43 pm
It's heavy but well made.

Alex
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: poles apart on November 08, 2006, 03:33:40 pm
I borrowed one of these to try and I wasn't that impressed. It's heavier than I thought it would be and the brush is a joke, very few bristles which are too soft and the jets are not far enough apart for the width of the brush. I also found it awkward in confined spaces to lower or raise due to the fact that you need to unscrew the bottom section to remove. This is a two man pole when used at anything over 40ft if you need to adjust it (we were using it at about 55ft) and is just too expensive to justify it's cost. Telescopic are much easier when doing runs of windows.

You weren't going to buy one anyway PJ ;D
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: Pj on November 08, 2006, 03:38:49 pm
I borrowed one of these to try and I wasn't that impressed. It's heavier than I thought it would be and the brush is a joke, very few bristles which are too soft and the jets are not far enough apart for the width of the brush. I also found it awkward in confined spaces to lower or raise due to the fact that you need to unscrew the bottom section to remove. This is a two man pole when used at anything over 40ft if you need to adjust it (we were using it at about 55ft) and is just too expensive to justify it's cost. Telescopic are much easier when doing runs of windows.

You weren't going to buy one anyway PJ ;D

No, but I love it when I'm right! ;D
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: aztec on November 08, 2006, 04:43:09 pm
we have one and all the replies are right , they are heavy and the brush is a joke , i believe we wasted money on this pole there are better and cheaper available

live and learn

p.s the best bit is the bag it comes in!!!
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: Jon T.C. on November 08, 2006, 04:49:31 pm
Strange, I bought specifically for a 50ft job in a narrow street with overhead cables.

It does the job for me brilliantly  ;D

However , I do agree that the brush is crap and that it is over priced.
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on November 08, 2006, 09:59:49 pm
so aztec what would you recomend ... ?

shawn
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: aztec on November 08, 2006, 10:08:57 pm
i would recommend tucker poles, they are very user friendly and light too
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: *foxman on November 09, 2006, 02:40:49 pm
you can easyly put a different brush on the Unger Hi Flo, (there is a range of different styles of brush coming in the near future) it's very easy to modify - i know a few who use it with Vikan brushes and they love it.

It's far easier to use than a telescopic at height over 40ft. The only people who don't get on with it are the ones who haven't used it correctly. Its a completely different tool. We think  their great!
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: aztec on November 09, 2006, 03:41:50 pm
what are you trying to say foxman we dont use poles correctly !!

we were the first in the country to have them so i doubt there is anyone more qualified to talk about the pros and cons of poles mate
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: P®oPole™ on November 09, 2006, 04:21:16 pm
Hi aztec,

I know what hes trying to get at. Alot of people, infact most of the wfp operators in the U.K cant even use there poles properly. Or think they know, but there all very wrong im affraid.

Im not saying anything bad about certain users, there work is of the exact same standard as the guy who know what hes doing, but the effort and strain they put themselfs under to achive such a working practise is actually quite dangerous.

Basically If you employ people and let them work poles over or around 30ft. It would be silly even very stupid to teach them bad and dangerous habbits.

ProPole
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: *foxman on November 09, 2006, 05:32:12 pm
I know what hes trying to get at. Alot of people, infact most of the wfp operators in the U.K cant even use there poles properly. Or think they know, but there all very wrong im affraid.

Im not saying anything bad about certain users, there work is of the exact same standard as the guy who know what hes doing, but the effort and strain they put themselfs under to achive such a working practise is actually quite dangerous.

Basically If you employ people and let them work poles over or around 30ft. It would be silly even very stupid to teach them bad and dangerous habbits.

Spot on ProPole, that is exactly right. It's all about technique.

we were the first in the country to have them so i doubt there is anyone more qualified to talk about the pros and cons of poles mate

Know i know thats not true. Where did you buy it from?
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: aztec on November 09, 2006, 06:12:43 pm
1993 we adopted ONE of the first it was custom made by a water purification company in horsham
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: *foxman on November 09, 2006, 06:20:34 pm
1993!! Is that the one you still use or did you buy another recently? If it is the same one, that is excellent value for money - it's lasted 13 years!
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: Chris Cottrell on November 09, 2006, 08:32:10 pm
13 years!

that's excellent wfp's were only thought of 12yrs ago i believe

Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: Pj on November 09, 2006, 08:39:14 pm
Tucker in the USA  40 years ago!

We catch on eventually!
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: Chris Cottrell on November 09, 2006, 08:46:47 pm
I have no idea Pj I was just being .... well you know .....me  :P
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: Pj on November 09, 2006, 08:52:20 pm
I have no idea Pj I was just being .... well you know .....me  :P

I wasn't meaning anything either Chris.  No offense meant.  You are probably right about this Country.  I was amazed to find out Tucker Poles had been in existence so long!  That was all really.
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: Chris Cottrell on November 09, 2006, 08:56:25 pm
none taken  :) :)
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: P®oPole™ on November 09, 2006, 09:58:25 pm
Wasnt Ionics the first in the U.K 1996, 10 years ago.
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: Chris Cottrell on November 09, 2006, 10:00:21 pm
That's what I had in mind
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: jouk45 on November 09, 2006, 11:17:23 pm
was it not ott, if my memory is right, i bought my first fibreglass pole from them, ::)
Title: Re: What do you think of Unger Hi flo Carbontec?
Post by: *foxman on November 09, 2006, 11:47:15 pm
Wasnt Ionics the first in the U.K 1996, 10 years ago.

Ionics (formerly Over The Top which may have had a name change due too the OTT price gags) took the Tucker pole (which has been around for decades beforehand) and improved on it then dragged it into the new millenium. Basically everyone who has made more money since going WFP has Ionics to thank. As a company they have single handedly changed an industry, despite what people think of them, and a hell of a lot of Window Cleaning Co's are better off for it.

It does make me laugh when you see the company who aggressively pushed the WFP into the cleaning world then turn around when marketing a zero waste RO with the 'if you have a social conscious about wasting water' you should buy this! If it wasn't for you guys i wouldn't be wasting water in the first place thanks!