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Title: freezing vans
Post by: 007 or what on November 03, 2006, 01:43:55 pm
have a look at this on e-bay.. it will keep everything toasty.........

type in airtronic on e-bay..
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: S_RICHARDSON on November 03, 2006, 03:33:30 pm
have you bought one may i ask??
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: 007 or what on November 03, 2006, 03:35:58 pm
no but i once had one in my van and it was great
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: Majestic on November 03, 2006, 03:54:58 pm
Last year I used one of these,and it worked a treat.



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Large-Paraffin-Cold-Frame-Mini-Greenhouse-Heater-NEW_W0QQitemZ180043071841QQihZ008QQcategoryZ42153QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: pjulk on November 03, 2006, 05:13:13 pm
John i was think about something like that but was a bit worried about having it on all night incase the van goes up in flames.

Does it make the inside of your van stink.

Paul
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: geefree on November 03, 2006, 05:21:37 pm
ebay.....


they a little bit costly  ::)
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: pjulk on November 03, 2006, 05:28:49 pm
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have a look at this on e-bay.. it will keep everything toasty.........

type in airtronic on e-bay..

Just had a look they are Eberspacher heaters BT use these in some of there vans.

But i think they are a bit to expensive even second hand they cost a lot.

Paul
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: craig jwc on November 03, 2006, 06:02:26 pm
Have already posted on a different posting about these.

I have the small version and so far the van and water hasn't frozen.

It does make the van smell though. Drove around all day with the windows open and still had the smell there at the end of the day.

I think it's better than having an extension lead going from the house to the van though.

Craig
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: Neil Williams on November 03, 2006, 07:55:13 pm
Electric frost protector (the sort used in greenhouses). Only kicks in when the temperature hits freezing. Not expensive on electric and no day long smells.
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: pjulk on November 03, 2006, 11:07:51 pm
Electric is not an option for me as my van is parked in a car park out side our house and can't run an extension lead to that.

Paul
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: matt on November 03, 2006, 11:19:40 pm
i have a WEBASTO diesel heater, its german like the Eberspacher, its a 24V unit, BUT i have a 24 V - 12 V converter

all you need is a fuel source (many use go kart fuel tanks) and your ready to go

it came from a german specialist, he assured me it was working fine, ive just not fitted it yet

it was brought for my VW campervan, but as i dont use it int he winter it was a idea that will never be used

if any1 wants it, make me a offer, keep in mind they go for 150 - 200 quid on ebay

if no1 wants it, ebay here it comes

Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: Majestic on November 03, 2006, 11:46:34 pm
Paul
It does smell a bit ,but you are not in the van all day .
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: poleman on November 03, 2006, 11:54:18 pm
Electric is not an option for me as my van is parked in a car park out side our house and can't run an extension lead to that.

Paul

ONLY 180W http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=43699 then get one of them power packs like this http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10151&productId=180794&categoryId=31417

Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: pjulk on November 04, 2006, 12:16:56 am
Excellent thankyou andrew

Im going to order one of those.

Paul
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: poleman on November 08, 2006, 03:53:28 pm
Paul did you order one? as I have order my one myself and its on now to see how long it will last, I will report back and see how many hours I get out of the powerpack

Andy 
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: pjulk on November 08, 2006, 04:03:47 pm
Funny you should say that i ordered it yesterday.

Im going to get a powerpack from makros at the weekend as they were only about £29.00.

I also going to line the roof of my van to help keep the heat in as john bolton has on the other forum.

Paul
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: poleman on November 08, 2006, 04:20:28 pm
YES I am doing the same as JB, I am in the same boat as you, can not run a lead outside, so hoping this works, if not then all we can do is insulator everything in the van and hope for the best this winter

Andy     
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: poleman on November 08, 2006, 04:59:11 pm
Paul it only lasted one hour  :-\ :(

Andy
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: Paul Coleman on November 08, 2006, 05:37:02 pm
There doesn't seem to be a viable way around keeping a van from freezing without using mains or diesel or a portable parasene heater (fire risk??).  I would be interested in a solution to this conundrum but I don't think there is one.  To do it from a battery and keep it going much of the night you would need one that was far to heavy to lift in order to carry it in to recharge.  Maybe it would be possible to have a number of batteries connected up but they would need to be recharged after a night's use.  At the moment, I'm using old duvets but I don't think that would help on the coldest nights.  Some precautions to take would be to ensure hosereel and pole hose is drained (or taken inside).  Also, take any wet brushheads inside.  Insulating the pipework in the van would also be helpful as would covering the pump with anything good for insulating.  I know it's a pain but it seems to be the only way to ensure against a freeze up.  I am considering Eberspacher or similar but the cost is offputting.
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: pjulk on November 08, 2006, 08:56:07 pm
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Paul it only lasted one hour

O .............  Good idea though.
Guess i will be able to find another use for it.
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: Mr. S on November 08, 2006, 11:03:11 pm
When i first started wfp in Feb used a cheap elec heater in van, was perfect, think ill dig it out and put one of those timer switches on it to turn on and off through night!
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 08, 2006, 11:22:56 pm
Not much fire risk with low centre of gravity parafifn green house heaters as they burn behind a flash screen, unless you douse them with petrol. I used one for a winter. Ecomomical as well. but bit messy to fill and dont forget to trim your wick  :)
Title: Re: freezing vans
Post by: pjulk on November 09, 2006, 12:20:52 am
I think thats a great idea jeff.

I liked andrews idea and im going to look for a 12v themostat that i could maybe use the suntube with so it would only come on when needed and once warm enough would switch off.

Maybe that could work with a leisure bettary as they last longer than the powerpacks and i have a spare leisure battery.

But i may get a parafin greenhouse heater also just incase.

Paul