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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Mark Betts on May 27, 2004, 01:19:31 am

Title: Rotary
Post by: Mark Betts on May 27, 2004, 01:19:31 am

Hi

Someone has offered me a small rotary.

The speed is 230 rpm.

Is this too fast for using with a shampo brush on carpets. As the speed I normally use is a 17" 150 rpm but this is 12" .

Thanks



Mark

Title: Re: Rotary
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on May 27, 2004, 01:46:21 am

What ever you use it on I find that a smaller rotary leaves more swirl marks.

Title: Re: Rotary
Post by: Dynafoam on May 27, 2004, 01:48:13 am

Mark,

It will be a little fast for some applications related to carpet cleaning.

The speed of the outer bristles of a 17" rotary @ 150rpm is 212.5 fpm, whereas this machine will have an outer bristle speed of 230 fpm.

Consequently, I would not wish to use it in a low-moisture situation such as bonnet buffing or pre-spray agitation, whereas with the lubrication of plenty of shampoo, though not ideal, it should be safe enough.

The other difference with smaller diameter brushes is 'tighter' swirl-marks.

John.

Title: Re: Rotary
Post by: Mark Betts on May 27, 2004, 01:57:57 am

Hi

Thanks very much,

Its a local cleaner that offered me it.

I thought it would be a lighter alternative to my 17" etc  but as you say it could be alittle fast .


Thanks


Mark

Title: Re: Rotary
Post by: Ken Wainwright on May 27, 2004, 08:35:14 pm

I've used a 230rpm machine for H/D carpet scrubbing and bonnet work for about 20 years. Never had a problem. But it's a 400mm/15" and so has a lower circumference speed than a 450/17".  A colleague has an identical machine in the 450/17" size and it's lethal on carpets, actually causing "melt" swirls on polyprop.

Safe and happy cleaning:)
Ken

Title: Re: Rotary
Post by: Mark Betts on May 27, 2004, 09:09:23 pm

Ken

So are you saying the smaller 12" would be ok?

Thanks

Mark

Title: Re: Rotary
Post by: Ken Wainwright on May 27, 2004, 10:14:54 pm

I wouldn't have a problem using a 300mm/12" rotary at 230rpm.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken

PS I don't normally use mine on residential work, just commercial. I would proceed with caution on many types of residential carpet.

Title: Re: Rotary
Post by: Mike Halliday on May 28, 2004, 12:01:30 am

Just because its a 12inch machine does'nt mean you can't fit a 17inch drive plate, it just over hangs the machine.

Mike

Title: Re: Rotary
Post by: Dynafoam on May 28, 2004, 12:04:16 am

Mark,

I bow to Kens' experience on this.

Perhaps I was being over-cautious as I have not used anything as fast for LM.

John.

Title: Re: Rotary
Post by: SteveTruman on May 28, 2004, 01:33:47 am

Mike,
You are quite correct about fitting a 17" drive plate but this will not fit if a skirt is fitted. So you are going to have a plastic or wooden board spinning at a great set of revs against skirting doors etc... This is my experience with a Numatic, other machines might have a different set up, if so my apologies.

Cheers

Steve

Title: Re: Rotary
Post by: Ken Wainwright on May 28, 2004, 08:03:56 pm

Using an oversize pad/plate will perform a job, but not quite so efficiently. The weight of the machine is an important factor with rotary cleaning, so the pressure on the pad will be reduced in this case.

John

You weren't being over cautious as your answer agrees with my findings 100% ie.  230rpm and 17" don't go together.

Safe and happy cleaning:)
Ken