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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: gmccleaning on October 30, 2006, 03:30:09 pm

Title: M/S HELP
Post by: gmccleaning on October 30, 2006, 03:30:09 pm
wanting to try m/s which one do u recomend and what is the proper way to use them for carpets and suites all help thanks

George
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: PaulKing on October 30, 2006, 04:10:28 pm
Get as many samples as you can, and try them all, rember your the best person to judge what works for you.
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: NigelD on October 30, 2006, 05:15:55 pm
I agree with Paul. But remember they require a lot of agitation, you will probably not get good results without mechanical brushes of some sort.

Ngel
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: gwrightson on October 30, 2006, 06:39:12 pm
can any one actually tell if their is a difference ,? I doubt it,  I believe they all have the same qualitys,

infact has any body actually tested all the different ones under the same conditions?
would love to know the results, like I said I doubt a noticable differnce, unless of course you are pushing a particular product ;) ;D
Geoff
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: PaulKing on October 30, 2006, 07:57:19 pm
have been tring out a couple of diffenet type on test stains and there is a differance, some work better than others and some are better than others at certain stains, all very complex but to do it scienfically would equire someone totally impartial, and it would be a lot of work for little reward, but if any does it I would be interested in the results.
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: Phil Marlor on October 30, 2006, 09:44:45 pm

They are all the same.

Phil
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: PaulKing on October 31, 2006, 12:59:15 pm

They are all the same.

Phil

Well there you go!  the definative and most helpfull answer

Make sure to watch this space for other Gems such as

"I don't know they all look the same to me"

"well they do you know!"

"everyones a cowboy except me!"


Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: Doug Holloway on October 31, 2006, 04:49:23 pm
Hi Guys

Phil is right , well sort of  ;)

The original MS , One Step followed by Solution and the Craftex are all sodium tripolyphosphate.

Some companies are now calling their new colloid products MS.

Remember MS is only industry jargon so any cleaning product could be called an MS ie . it shatters the dirt bond on a molecular level.

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: carpetguy on October 31, 2006, 08:06:48 pm
About 5 years ago Steve Saunders mentioned, that he was experimenting with bleach, often wondered if he followed this through.
Just imagine, if you could get the explosive, surface tension breaking of bleach, without the colour loss.

robbie
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: calmore on October 31, 2006, 08:14:48 pm
Has anyone tried Persil? It's obviously designed to clean fabrics...
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: Macarthur on October 31, 2006, 09:22:27 pm
Had a customer once who told me about a previous carpet cleaner who  actually used ordinary washing powder in his portable.
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: PaulKing on October 31, 2006, 09:26:55 pm
They are all the same you know ;)
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: Phil Marlor on October 31, 2006, 09:52:58 pm
They are all the same you know ;)

Its my opinion Paul, I have tried them all, One Step, Easy Step, Craftex, Solutions, Pure Clean, I can't tell any difference and why should there be, there is nothing in them except sodium tripolyphosphate and they all contain this.

If you want to convince yourself they are all different that's up to you, I dont think I have ever read anyone say one is better than the other and that's after reading about 1.000.000 posts regarding Microsplitters.

Can I ask you what you think the difference is between Craftex & One Step?
Just curious.

Phil

Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: Jason Hedges on October 31, 2006, 10:09:04 pm
Hi,

I've tried them all as well but only keep one on my van now, craftex microsplit. Simply because it performs as well as any of the others but is safe to use on wool. Saving space on the van carrying a wool-safe and standard solution. Its also good value for money.

I have also purchased some m-power but as yet am unconvinced. In my eyes the beauty of microsplitters was no dwell time. But with this you need dwell time and agitation? Still trying to get to grips with the concept......

Kind regards,
Jason.
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: AquaMagic on October 31, 2006, 10:13:29 pm
I personally have found m-power to out perform conventional ms but a caveat with that is that you will still need other chemicals to complement it as im sure solutions will agree.
Title: Re: M/S HELP
Post by: Jason Hedges on October 31, 2006, 10:19:00 pm
Hi Aquamagic,

If you dont mind me asking what other chemicals do you use to compliment it and how? I thought it was rinsed with plain water as with conventional m/s, unless special treatments are required with the rinse for the job.

Kind regards,
Jason.