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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jeff1 on October 23, 2006, 11:48:27 pm
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Hi Guy's & Gals
I am going to build my own web-site and was wondering if you could let me see your web-sites so I can get some ideas,
also were is the best place for me to get some pictures from, It won't go live until next year, but I want to get it sorted now. Thanks in advance Guy's & Gals
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Jeff,
Go to this site's home page. Look for Memberlist and click on that.
You'll get a list of every member. On that list look for the Website column and click on members with a website icon by their name.
As Wavie says, that'll be a fiver.
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jeff,
take a look at ours http://www.freshwatersystems.co.uk
it's simple so it loads quick, I take most of the pics and then use photosohp to edit them down in size & quality, and I use dreamweaver to edit the pages.
Always ask for permission to use other peoples pics, as they will have copyright on them
steve@freshwatersystems.co.uk
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Jeff,
My website is here >> http://www.scs.uk.com
Andy
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Thanks Andy,Steve & Tosh, you have given me plenty of info & Idea's to keep me busy for a while, Many thanks to you all.
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my site is www.aqua-pura.co.uk if you'd still like to look at some...thanks
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Thanks Steve, I have plenty of time and I want to see as many as possible.
Vey nice site by the way 8)
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Hi Steve,
Very nice site mate, how much did that cost you? did you do it yourself?
ProPole
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Look at mine...look at mine....look at mine ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
www.scsf.co.uk
www.scsf.co.uk/bizzie.htm (free to members)
www.scsf.co.uk/gower.htm (free to members)
www.imagecleaning.org
www.brummiespeedway.co.uk
chris
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Hi Chris,
Do you build sites then?
ProPole
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WOW! Guy's keep 'em' coming keep 'em' coming, some great sites.
The cheapest and best web-site builder I have found todate is JOUK45's Son (wee Joe) he has built quite a lot of site's for the guy's on here and some very impesive one's to.
I took Tosh's advice and went to the members list to scour your web-sites, I was very supprised how many links never worked, and how few window cleaner only webs there are.
I must admit I have only done the first eight pages. but will scoure the rest of them, if you do have a web-site then can I suggest you make sure your link works to your site, or you could be loosing money.
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Hi Chris,
Do you build sites then?
ProPole
Purely on an amateur basis/Hobby ;D
Chris
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I have been quoted £100 a page is that any good?
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Hang on Propole I'll find out for you what I can.
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Can I make a suggestion here guys.
Get your self along to your local Adult education/Learning school. Enrol in a basic web design course and build your own.
I joined in April, it was FREE. One of the other candidates even gave me a copy of Dreamweaver to instal.
If you do that you can alter, ammend and update your web pages as much as you like.
If you want it all singing and dancing then do the second course too.
Just a suggestion guys.
Sarah
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Heres some web sites he has built, he will work with you to get the standard you are looking for flash banner, dynamic information, good looking layout he is curently building a website porfolio for people to view samples. heres a few sites which he has done. email him at joeontherun@blueyonder.co.uk
if you need a web site, or anything built,
WebHosting Site >> www.uk-fasthosts.info
Gameing Site >> www.staticbandits.com
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£100 a page...that's scary. :P.as Sarah said, its not rocket science, nowadays you have no real need for html knowledge, unless you want a super all singing site,
If you can use a word document, then you can build a site, for a round £30-40 a year(and that's more or less as many pages as you want!!) if you have the general idea and layout, you could build a site within 1 hour. ;D
Chris
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Hi Propole
Yes i built it myself, just need to know photoshop and a basic html application, i use dreamweaver, can't use flash or anything but then again not fussed as i like simple plain websites with not to much moving on them
£100 a page is a ripp off unless you need some complicated functions, if you need a slick little setup with only a few pages don't pay more than £150 - £200 tops!
i built mysite in about 6 hours, it ain't the best there is out there but is alright for free ennit? ;D
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6 Hours :o :o not bad my logo took longer than that
I do like your Steve, very very profesional the intro is the don. I wouldnt have a clue.
Does that dream weaver software help (do it all for you) what exactly is it?
ProPole
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where I know Photoshop thats the biggest advantage, create it all there first then chopit up and bang it dreamweaver. i'm a real novice at dreamweaver but get by. you can't create images in dreamweaver just put it all together in that.
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Were do you get this so called photo shop and dream weaver sounds very expensive,
can you get like copy's on ebay, or can I download free from them share sites, Aries or limewire or are they all laden with virusis.
I treid getting george of Aries, it had a virus.
How much is the software then?
Regards
ProPole
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you can get it from limewire (i didn't tell you that) ;)
You can go through all the tutorials although i have extensive training and knowledge! ;). only messing! best thing to do is make yourself up a template. get a new document of around 800x600 pixels, get your self a design then change the pages within that, just takes a little time getting your design done!
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yes jouks lad has nealy finished my site iam really happy with it www.davidwoodwindowcleaningservices.co.uk
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Looks good David. not to much flash which is good. the only thing i will say is i prefer my txt to be smaller but thats cause i have super sonic eyesight! ;)
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yes jouks lad has nealy finished my site iam really happy with it www.davidwoodwindowcleaningservices.co.uk
I like your site dave, I like the way your van zooms into the page.
And by the way the text size is ideal, because I don't have super sonic eyesight! ;D ;D
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thanks for that yes iam really happy with it and would highly recommend jouks son to build peoples web sites for them
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you can get it from limewire (i didn't tell you that) ;)
I'm just downloading Dreamweave from limewire, Takes a few hours and so far no bugs, I'll let you know if there are any virus's.
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thats why you need a mac soon ;)
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For just a basic site why not use Microsoft publisher. It has templates so its realy easy to use.
I used Netobject fusion 9 for mine
( Dave I thought you were still in wales )
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Just an update Guy's don't download from limewire its full of little nasty bugs. ::)
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my site is www.aqua-pura.co.uk if you'd still like to look at some...thanks
Steveaqua,
Your site looks good... The only problem is, you have all the text as images which means you will never be picked up by any search engines.
Andy
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thats what meta tags are for ennit?
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www.angelwindowcleaning.co.uk
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hi john how are you m8. should be back in stockport in about 3 weeks fingers crossed
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thats what meta tags are for ennit?
Meta Tags help, but to be honest don't do much... Its the content (text) that matters more.
Andy
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k
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Maybe you could just use the image (without the text) as a background, and then just type the text in?
Andy
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thanks andy but i had a guy ring me up trying to sell me the fact that he could get me in the top searches for my other website, i quizzed him about how he would do it and he said its all done on meta tags as these are the first things the spiders would pick up when searching the net. i did hear about adding hidden text but got told that spiders would pick this up as being spamming, anyone got any further info on being picked up on searches? i found being linked to yell helped out on being recognized with searches...cheers
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Hidden text is spamming.
But, writing your website in a way that uses specific keywords is the best way of being picked up, it's called SEO (Search Engine Optimisation).
Andy
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www.angelwindowcleaning.co.uk
Nice site, with some good idea's many thanks
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aparently if you link your site to a load of others that helps in being picked up by searches don't it?
If you repeat your meta tags on each page of your site this can be classed as spamming as these are what the spiders will pick up when searching, got told to use alternate phrases to dismiss them from being classed as spamming
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Meta tags are meant to be a discription of the key points of your site, the spiders read the meta tags and then check the text of your page, they will pick up straight away if your meta tags are nothing like your web page content.
If your web page has lots of graphics and not alot of text you can put an alternative text tag on your pictures, you will see this when you hold your mouse over a picture in a web page, before the picture loads the text is displayed, this is also very good for helping your position on search engines.
While your downloading dodgy versions of software from limewire ( virus laiden, so try torrents instead ) look for a program called web postion gold, it will look at your web page like a spider does and tell you what needs improved, it also has many other great features too. I gained alot of 1st page rankings on google with a little studying.
A large plc company p**sed me off a few years ago and I proceeded to get my links in google and many other search engines above the said plc ( 8 out of 10 first page listings were pointing to my site not theres ). And it cost me a grand total of 20 quid for the hosting,domain name and design and ranking.
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Meta tags are meant to be a discription of the key points of your site, the spiders read the meta tags and then check the text of your page, they will pick up straight away if your meta tags are nothing like your web page content.
If your web page has lots of graphics and not alot of text you can put an alternative text tag on your pictures, you will see this when you hold your mouse over a picture in a web page, before the picture loads the text is displayed, this is also very good for helping your position on search engines.
While your downloading dodgy versions of software from limewire ( virus laiden, so try torrents instead ) look for a program called web postion gold, it will look at your web page like a spider does and tell you what needs improved, it also has many other great features too. I gained alot of 1st page rankings on google with a little studying.
A large plc company p**sed me off a few years ago and I proceeded to get my links in google and many other search engines above the said plc ( 8 out of 10 first page listings were pointing to my site not theres ). And it cost me a grand total of 20 quid for the hosting,domain name and design and ranking.
I knew a guy (not personally but through the web) who found another way to get to the top of the rankings. Apparently, many search engines disallowed your request if you wrote to them too much (don't know if it's still like that). So he wrote to the search engines quite a bit while pretending to be from opposing companies. Got the opposition down the rankings by getting them done for spamming.
Dirty but it worked.
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Yeah shiner thats true, if you submit to the search engines too much it counts as spam, and its also a long proccess getting listed on the engines, once a spider has crawled your site it can take 2 months before they actually index ( list ) your site on the search engine so its a long process.
Its also wise to have a good hit counter on your site that keeps stats on who has visited as this will tell you which search engines have crawled your site. It also tells you how your visitors found your site, ie links from search engines or other sites.
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this is all interesting stuff, i can see how having images on my site instead of text is afecting it being listed so i will change it this weekend to make it text.
I've got a decent virtual panel onit where it tells me all the hits, hourly, daily, monthly, where there coming from etc etc.
The only thing i don't know guys is how to submit my site to engines, it used to be straight forward years ago with a simple link to submit it. can't find that anymore.
as i said in a previous post my other site definatly got found by being on yell, it went from 30 hits a month to just under a 1000 in the space of four weeks, at first it all came from yell, now when i look at the panel it is being hit from google, yahoo, ask and a few others.
Its always been a little sketchy when i've asked other people of how to get my sites listed no-one can really give me a straight answer so never had a real straight forward step by step instruction of how to do it.
I've been instructed to
a) always list within the meta tags and don't repeat phrases otherwise the spiders will reject it as spamming
b) use as much descriptive body text as possible (not practiced that ::))
C) link to as many other sites as possible you will more chance of a spider indexing it
I haven't done B&C but was gonna go with yell at the end of the year to see if i get same result as me other site.