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Title: church windows
Post by: macleod on October 23, 2006, 04:15:35 pm
yep,

been asked to quote for a little chapel...

question is has anyone done this with wfp/water and with what results...

the stone window frames have been cleaned and so there is no protective grill on any windows...

plus anything else i should be aware of?

not sure if i should quote...
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Johnboyfree on October 23, 2006, 04:44:31 pm
Hiya,As its a Chapel does it have stained glass windows?or is it a modern building?
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: macleod on October 23, 2006, 04:45:48 pm
stained and leaded
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: macleod on October 23, 2006, 04:53:03 pm
by the way the windows are at a school chapel and they have removed the protective grills!!!!
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Terry_Burrows on October 23, 2006, 05:28:39 pm
this brings back memorys of when I cleaned church windows years ago,we cleaned and cleaned :'( but no good looked krap,all the colours were faded, :-[ then ;D ::) :o I had an idea :o high gloss floor polish :-XI tried a small bit of glass :-X while the vicar was not looking :o bless me god for I have sinned :-[ wow ;D he shone down upon me ;D 8) so the rest of the polish went on the inside only,and all the colours came back ;D
the vicar was pleased ;D now I have spilled the holy bread on the Internet :-X I will never go up now :'(


Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Johnboyfree on October 23, 2006, 05:29:22 pm
The reason why I asked is if they are old stained/leaded no matter what other people say they should not be cleaned with water,or any other cleaning agent,use only a small dry brush(the sort you would use for painting)and dry brush them clean,if they are modern leaded/stained windows water/scrim will sufice.
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: macleod on October 23, 2006, 05:30:07 pm
oh my

the god of window cleaners has spoke to me!

thanks turbo  ;D
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Johnboyfree on October 23, 2006, 05:37:24 pm
this brings back memorys of when I cleaned church windows years ago,we cleaned and cleaned :'( but no good looked krap,all the colours were faded, :-[ then ;D ::) :o I had an idea :o high gloss floor polish :-XI tried a small bit of glass :-X while the vicar was not looking :o bless me god for I have sinned :-[ wow ;D he shone down upon me ;D 8) so the rest of the polish went on the inside only,and all the colours came back ;D
the vicar was pleased ;D now I have spilled the holy bread on the Internet :-X I will never go up now :'(
I cant believe that some one who is held in such high esteem would stoop so low,not only that but I was allways told you were so fast it didnt matter if people watched they couldnt see what you were doing anyway ;D ;D


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Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Roy Harding on October 23, 2006, 06:05:35 pm
Also check your insuarance as a lot of churches etc are excluded because of the replacement cost.

Roy
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: aztec on October 23, 2006, 06:17:39 pm
they wont look any different mate so dont bother!!!
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: macleod on October 23, 2006, 06:32:32 pm
thats my biggest worry - that they will not look any different.

has anyone got any experience?
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Johnboyfree on October 23, 2006, 06:34:09 pm
I have ;D ;D or are we talking windows?
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Johnboyfree on October 23, 2006, 06:39:42 pm
As I said earlier,it depends on how old they are,the Pariochal(I think thats how its spelt)Churches of England will not/should not let you clean there windows with anything other than a dry brush,as water harms the lead and the glass as do solvents and cleaners,and they are listed buildings so you have to be carefull,and as Roy pointed out,check youre insurance.
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: macleod on October 23, 2006, 06:43:26 pm
how can a dry brush do anything other than scrap the windows with the dirt?

any more experience... in cleaning leaded, tinted church windows?

Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Johnboyfree on October 23, 2006, 06:51:45 pm
Because that is all you can do,leaded windows on a church have to look aged,not dirty or sparkling clean,its called keeping in look with the building,lead and stained glass has a patena(a certain look) to it,that must be kept,you cant have churches 100s years old with brand new looking lead and windows,they just dont go......apparantly.That is why the Church Council wont let you clean with anything else....Im not saying the Vicar/Pastor/Priest wont,He/She might just not know...
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: macleod on October 23, 2006, 06:59:48 pm
thanks jb

yeah, i guess i could brush the windows, and they look the same...

i understand what your saying... i guess its that "it must be clean eough to eat off" mentality that i have..

Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Johnboyfree on October 23, 2006, 07:01:17 pm
If all else fails I seem to remember The National Trust does A Manual of Housekeeping,I dont know if its available online but that is where I started to get my info from,or you can try the Guild of Mastercraftsman...
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: MNWC on October 23, 2006, 07:08:52 pm
How strange.... just cleaned local baptist church today with small diamond shaped leaded windows.
Done it with wfp outside only.

You could see where i have been but didnt leave the windows sparkling !!

but as i said it was only outside if i had done inside as well it might be a different story

Marcus
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: macleod on October 23, 2006, 07:10:20 pm
this building is maybe less than 100 years old
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Johnboyfree on October 23, 2006, 07:11:36 pm
How strange.... just cleaned local baptist church today with small diamond shaped leaded windows.
Done it with wfp outside only.

You could see where i have been but didnt leave the windows sparkling !!

but as i said it was only outside if i had done inside as well it might be a different story

Marcus


If you ever do the inside I would strongly advise against wfp.....cant think why though ;D ;D
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: macleod on October 23, 2006, 07:12:57 pm
you could clean inside if its flag stone i was told, then just sweep the excess water away... or let it all drain down the crypt  :-[
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Johnboyfree on October 23, 2006, 07:15:48 pm
Hi,as its less than 100 years old Im still not sure,the lead will have a much higher silver content than modern lead and can therefore discolour,I would most prob.just use a wfp on it,no detergents just pure water,
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Johnboyfree on October 23, 2006, 07:20:12 pm
you could clean inside if its flag stone i was told, then just sweep the excess water away... or let it all drain down the crypt :-[

Flag stone should be cleaned with a damp mop,then dryed with a dry mop....as long as you dry it before you leave I dont think it matters
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Terry_Burrows on October 24, 2006, 12:52:39 pm
I said prayers today :-X
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Johnboyfree on October 24, 2006, 01:10:39 pm
I said prayers today :-X

Im Glad you did,and Im sure whatever you asked for you may have a chance of recieving,as long as the list is not as long as mine......... ::) ::)
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Terry_Burrows on October 24, 2006, 04:29:18 pm
 ;Dit was some 20 years ago that I sinned :-\ I will preach the gospel of good faith ;D
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: macleod on October 24, 2006, 04:37:45 pm
have you got wfp yet terry?
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Johnboyfree on October 24, 2006, 05:08:38 pm
have you got wfp yet terry?
;D ;D ;D

I Wish I had thought of that.......

But as I Understand it He wont use anything that slows him down.......so no point in me asking for a job ::) ::)
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: S_RICHARDSON on October 24, 2006, 06:48:28 pm
yep,

been asked to quote for a little chapel...

question is has anyone done this with wfp/water and with what results...

the stone window frames have been cleaned and so there is no protective grill on any windows...

plus anything else i should be aware of?

not sure if i should quote...
I wouldn't even bother you couldn't tell the difference!
Title: Re: church windows
Post by: Terry_Burrows on October 24, 2006, 08:45:54 pm
no we do not have any need what so ever to own wfp,my interests are else where at the moment ,you have to justyfy the need for them in the first place,er I cant :-\ so we wont spend x amount of ££££ thousands on it ;D