Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: homenclean on October 09, 2006, 09:17:44 pm
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Has anybody done this ?
I have been looking at TM`s recently, with a view to purchase and noticed that they are considerably cheaper in usa.
What implications are there importing?
I would be intereted in hearing from any one who has done this.
Thankyou
John
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Make you'll have to make sure you pay the:-
Import Duty
VAT which is seperate from IDuty
Transport cost
Truckmount don't fit on a standard pallet so handeling fees can be high,
Insurance in transit( don't strickly need this if your a gambling man)
Customs agent in US they may wish to inspect your cargo so you need a agent.
Shipping agent here to clear UK customs
Be able to make a CHAPS payment to IR on day goods clear before they are released
ANd lastly pick up from ( airport or docks) ( heathrow or thamesport) and delivery to your premises
Sounds a little bit more complicated, does'nt it? theres so much more involved than ordering a wand or hand tools as they can just post/fed ex those,and sometime the post office miss the fact theres duty to pay
There definatly are savings to be made for sure, but you can end up with no savings and genrating a lot of hassel for yourself, also which machine do you want as most manufacturers have dealer in the UK or europe and won't sell direct to you. If you do buy it make sure you get service kits/belts/hoses (internal and external) and other spare parts as well.
Think most who do it succesfully actually go over to seal the deal and shipping and use the saving to have a little hoilday!
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And when your trailer mounted machine arrives you find some faceless idiot has packed it into a container and forgot to strap it down properly! Oh and the axel and tow hitches have to be changed to comply with EU reg I now know this because a nice man in a Volvo T5 with blue lights told me so on my way home. ( he only stoped me because my trailer lights where broken)
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Just testing
Some how I have gone back in time with this subject showing as todays post so just seeing if I can move forward to this year.
Looks like time travel is possible
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Hi
They must be moved around the states on a pallet, so shipping them overseas cant be that different.
Dave
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yep! they come palletised (but not standard euro size pallets)and boxed..........in the biggest cardboard boxes you've ever seen! ;D when I've bought them they have come that way. I usually have 2 pallets though as the reels hoses tank and all the other bits come in the same shipment.
all the best
John
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when I win the lottery I'm going to start a company building T/Ms In this country.
you can buy the engines, the blowers & pumps all you need to import is the heat exchanger which from what I can gather the best you can get are from John's Custom Machine, Inc. in Florida @ £400ish.
you could go from a 11hp Yanmar diesal right up to a JCB 65hp turbo Diesal.
Mike
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mike have you took you medication 2day ;)
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Mike
Hope the JCB engine is not like there power tools ;)
Len
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Hi
27 HP Air Cooled Kohler engine £750
1000 psi pump £200
40 Blower £1000
2 x Heat Exchangers SS £800
Frame Custom Fabricated £250
Fresh Water Tank Custom Fab in Aluminium £500
Exhaust Custom Fab Steel £150
Suppy Side feed Tank £300
Waste Tank Alloy £300
Misc £500
What dose that add up to a £12,000 mid range truckmount.
Dave
PS I make that about £5K
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What about
chemical pump
flow meter
prime valve
metering valve
all high pressure hardware
wiring
heat divert control system
gauges
switches
blower silencer
drive coupling systems
pulleys
bypass system
etc etc etc
why bother, just buy a proper one that works and looks right. You dont make your own cars do you ?
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what about a man to put it together? wow I think you're onto something ;D
there are so many fingers in the pie that no one person actually gets the extra 750% mark up.
Maker has to build it and pay for workshop and heating, insurance and others to make it, then it may have to go to be tested for BSI or US equivalent, then marketed and then there's trade shows, the distributors and distribution costs, and the distributor having to have insurance and premises also allowing for faulty machines, breakage, accountants cost and alot lot more you can see how it adds up.
Best to make your own with a bit of sticky black plastic.
Shaun
PS Mike got any spare ?
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but you do get enthusiast who build there own cars, same goes for t/m
plus half those things you mention is what goes wrong with them
I have a engine turning a blower and pump plumbed into a 100gl of hot water no switches guages, primers etc... works perfect
Mike
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Hi
This country were he engineers of the world, have we lost that.
Why can somebody in this country produce a decent TM.
What is Mr Ingram doing these days.
Dave
PS I thought i was the only one staying in on a Saturday & arguing with the bread knife, obviously not!
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Dave has it still got butter on it?
Shaun
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Dave
Cottage industry now days most body panels I get come from Taiwan :o
Bread knife blinding bit of kit for gum but I bet it doesn’t come from Sheffield. ;D
Len
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Sheffield near China :o
it used to be a big juicy Barnsley chop for tea now it's a flamin Karate chop!
Truckmounts from China now that's the answer. "Hello is that customer service? my TM has gone wrong" reply "Mr.Wong no here tooooday, you call back Monday"
Shaun
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I'm sure if it was a profitable enterprise somebody would be doing it. It obviously isn't. The UK market is too small and there would be no opportunity for exporting.
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I don't think the market is too small, the same technology could also adapted to build pressure washers, you could export with in the EU
and with a small fabrication shop you could offer S/S shelves, tanks and other accessories
and most truckmount seller also sell a range of chemicals
wait until i win the lottery then you'll see :D :D
Mike
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Mike, if I won the lottery making truckmounts would be the last thing on my mind :)
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I would love to have a go at building a tm but in reality to get it right it takes a hell of a lot of time.
our unit is near the Guy who is restoring Bluebird he has enginering company and knows his nuts and bolts, asked him to look at a prowler and said he could do a better job of it . So said great! how much? worked out a grand and a half more. English quailty English Price!
So orderd another one from restormate instead. saved a few bob and loads of time no doubt as well
However do intend to just keep the ones we have running with spares from now on, as we will have a spare one to change over if one fails.
I think mikes right though a simple cheap engine suplies all the power you need. we had a 13hp one running 250ft of 2inch hose and a 25ft 1.5 inch whip and cleaned a stately home no probs. 500 square meters in 8 hours and 90percent of it dry when finished. just last room left damp
There was a power cut in the hole area untill lunch time so would have been up the creak without a tm.
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and if its second hand all the duteys go down alot you only pay for what you have payed out so you good do with a friendly guy at the other end ;) and shipping from the usa is easy there very good at there jobs how ever you must buy your own straps as they dont tie them down with ten tonne ones like we have here
im looking in too bring a full unit back as im looking for anthor split screen camper so im just going to get a contaner and put them both in at the same time