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Title: WFP DRIPS
Post by: geefree on October 01, 2006, 04:40:06 pm
Hi all,

can anyone please tell me, when you have done an upstairs window, or all of them using wfp....  you have to wait for all the dripping to stop, before you can clean downstairs... ok, so if you have one in one street do you sit in the van and wait,,, as you cant do downstairs and drive off leaving the tops dripping onto the bottom sills, therefore splashing bottom glass,....

its not a debate for wfp versus trad.... but whilst you are waiting... (as i presume you do).... would it not have been less hassle just to whip the ladders out and do the business trad style.......

The reason i ask is because i may buy a wfp backpack, but i reckon i will wait, until i have a fair amount of customers on one street...... so i can do all the tops first let them drip dry then start again on the bottoms.

why cant anyone invent a suction pump , just to run over the sill  :D
Title: Re: wfp drips
Post by: DUTCH on October 01, 2006, 04:46:27 pm
HI,
     YOU CAN DO 2/3 UPSTAIRS THEN GO BACK AND START ON THE DOWN UNDERNEATH THE FIRST UP YOU DO.............. OR DO ALL UPS THEN DO ALL THE DOWNS IT'S NOT A BIG PROB MATE,

                                      REGARDS DUTCH
Title: Re: wfp drips
Post by: david68 on October 01, 2006, 04:49:02 pm
I wonder how this topic will go........ ::)........ ;)

I say for one house get the ladders of van, quicker than waiting for drips to dry

Dave
Title: Re: wfp drips
Post by: neil100 on October 01, 2006, 04:53:42 pm
I clean wfp exactly the same as I would Trad.

Go to house clean all upstairs windows. Go back to first window where I started and clean downstairs, easy peasiee. No waiting around.

Nel.
Title: Re: wfp drips
Post by: geefree on October 01, 2006, 04:54:56 pm
hi, and has all the dripping stopped by then?

gary.
Title: Re: wfp drips
Post by: david68 on October 01, 2006, 04:56:24 pm
Nel i have tried that
But the water is still dripping??

Dave
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: geefree on October 01, 2006, 05:03:13 pm
I Also would not like to face a customer when she walks out of the house to find water dripping everywhere....

looking into wfp now so hence all the questions and thinking  ::)
Title: Re: wfp drips
Post by: eddie d on October 01, 2006, 05:03:36 pm
sometimes it drips forever other times it doesnt .i know some guys  pole up & down and tell me they dont get any  problems,and the windows dry ok.
you could if you wanted ladder single houses ,and use the pole as an extra tool and use when suited best tio the job.
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: neil100 on October 01, 2006, 05:07:18 pm
I think you might get an odd drip but its never enough to cause a problem with downstairs windows.

I allways take my brush over the sills with the water switched off, This helps remove surplus water. With the weather being warm they soon dry. I have had no complaints so dripping is not causeing me any problems.

It never causes any problems on my own house either. The Boss allways checks them.

Nel.
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: david68 on October 01, 2006, 05:12:51 pm
At the moment with my round being like yours gazza.

I have better results by trad than wfp.

But if i did have a row off house next to each other, to give plenty of time for drips to stop, I might go wfp.

But remember this by changing over to this system, you explain to customers that its will make your windows better and cleaner, Dam if it don't work out what do u tell customers why you have converted back to trad?

Dave
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: Pat Purcell on October 01, 2006, 05:19:02 pm
You might be better off waiting until next spring to change over to WFP if that is your goal as im guessing that wfp problems are magnified in the colder weather
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: D.Salkeld_Ltd on October 01, 2006, 05:26:20 pm
Not a real problem, I always brush off the sill with water off seems to remove excess water and vertualy stops the dripping.

David
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: eddie d on October 01, 2006, 05:29:17 pm
it depends how cold.in some ways its easier in the winter as the water drys slower and not as much rincing is needed .when its hot the water can start drying the dirt on the window before you have time to fully rince.polling is not a piece of cake and takes a while to master .took me around 8 months to fully get to grips with it ,but now i have very few issues .and of course my legs &arms &neck are in one piece.
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: pjulk on October 01, 2006, 05:31:36 pm
I do the tops at the front WFP and then bottoms at front WFP.
Then round the back and do the same.

Alot of the time it is still dripping but i just carry on.
I don't worry about the drips and never get a problem.

Paul
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: david68 on October 01, 2006, 05:49:39 pm
Paul thats the only way i can see it working.
Not worrying about the drips.

Just do the house and let it drip dry while you are on the next one and hope you get paid

Dave

Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: groundhog on October 01, 2006, 05:50:19 pm
Don't care about the drips more like, if the water is running down the wall and then dripping onto the down stairs windows it will leave spots!
I find that tiled walls are worst and it keeps dripping for ages :(
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: batterbee on October 01, 2006, 06:46:55 pm
Hi all,

can anyone please tell me, when you have done an upstairs window, or all of them using wfp....  you have to wait for all the dripping to stop, before you can clean downstairs... ok, so if you have one in one street do you sit in the van and wait,,, as you cant do downstairs and drive off leaving the tops dripping onto the bottom sills, therefore splashing bottom glass,....

its not a debate for wfp versus trad.... but whilst you are waiting... (as i presume you do).... would it not have been less hassle just to whip the ladders out and do the business trad style.......

The reason i ask is because i may buy a wfp backpack, but i reckon i will wait, until i have a fair amount of customers on one street...... so i can do all the tops first let them drip dry then start again on the bottoms.

why cant anyone invent a suction pump , just to run over the sill  :D

Hi Gazza

If i were you mate I'd stop worrying  quite so much the drips really aren't a problem if you do all the tops first then bottoms, do what Neil and David say wipe the sill with the brush with the water off and you wont have any problems, but if your still not convinced do what i did at the start of getting a wfp get one of these www.soapnational.co.uk/acatalog/Pulex7.html (http://www.soapnational.co.uk/acatalog/Pulex7.html) its a clamp that goes on the end of a normal pole, then put a micro fibre cloth into the clamp you can the wipe the sill completely dry.

I don't use it know as i soon realised the drips as I've said just aren't a problem.

Hope this little tip helps

John
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: geefree on October 01, 2006, 06:48:35 pm
thanks for all replies,

i am confused as what to do but i  will do it eventually,

i just dont like the idea of drips and water all over, even given what you all have said.

gary
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: geefree on October 01, 2006, 06:51:13 pm
thanks john for that tip ;)
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: brett walker on October 01, 2006, 08:20:42 pm
There are some wfp drips working in my area you should see the job they do  ;D   ;D   ;D

Brett
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: david68 on October 01, 2006, 08:46:41 pm
Yes good tip john.
That would make me happy at the start

Dave
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: geefree on October 01, 2006, 09:30:29 pm
thanks again,
lol... drips in my area too..

i think if i can wipe them away i would feel better.... i like to walk away fro a house knowing i have done the best i can..... yes i may be worrying too much but if i was cleaning a window 3 storeys high, how can i see it?  how do i know that it looks clean?...

also can i ask one final question ( it wont be) ;)...

when you wash a window with wfp,, with your brush... at what point do you know when to rinse it?... if its 3/4 high, ... how do you know its clean?.... what if you rinse when it needs more cleaning, without binoculours how can you tell?........ i cant get my head around it... ::)

gary.
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: steveaqua on October 01, 2006, 09:36:33 pm
I found that the drips don't effect the end result. i have two people cleaning, one tops one bottoms. we just move from one end of the house to the other. (the tops being cleaned first) as long as the windows have suffiecient flushing it doesn't cause us any problems. we have a few complaints every now and then but its normally on the first one or two cleans when the dirt hasen't been flushed off enough and specs or runs are left.
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: Rise N Shine on October 04, 2006, 05:11:09 pm
This is kind of off topic but is about WFP and Drips, what do you guys do about water hitting patios/paths in the winter and turning them into an ice rink?
Does this happen or is not enough water being used?
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: Paul Coleman on October 04, 2006, 05:33:39 pm
This is kind of off topic but is about WFP and Drips, what do you guys do about water hitting patios/paths in the winter and turning them into an ice rink?
Does this happen or is not enough water being used?

If it's not a first clean I turn down the water flow to reduce the amount of water that hits the path.  I also carry a container of rock salt around with me in case of freeze up.
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: Rise N Shine on October 04, 2006, 09:01:51 pm
Thanks for the reply Shiner, makes sense :)
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: petski2 on October 04, 2006, 09:04:01 pm
If its cold enough to freeze the water on the ground we wouldnt be working anyway. ;)
Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: Rise N Shine on October 04, 2006, 09:06:56 pm
If its cold enough to freeze the water on the ground we wouldnt be working anyway. ;)

I must be a glutton for punishment then, last winter i had water freezing on the glass as soon as it was applied.
Plus fingers sticking to the ladders! Horrific.

Title: Re: WFP DRIPS
Post by: AuRavelling79 on October 04, 2006, 10:02:23 pm
Ok - brush cills at top with water switched off (like neil said)

Turn waterflow down in winter compared to summer.

I don't do entranceways in cold weather (wfp) if I think the water will linger - so I blade them.