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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Terry_Burrows on September 19, 2006, 06:26:07 pm
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we was looking at the Rhino machines as compared to the ninja,spec quite high on Rhino much cheaper to buy than ninja,any one got a Rhino
or know any one that has used these,are they as good as ninja or better,
your thoughts please or advice :D
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Hi there Terry,
As i am fairly new to carpet cleaning i can only give my opinion on my rhino, but i must say i am chuffed to bits with mine. It's achieved brilliant results on every job i have used it on so far it looks fairly easy to work on should anything go wrong with it (fingers crossed that won't happen for a little while yet). I must say i couldn't find any other machine with as good as spec for the money hope this helps you abit anyway.
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Terry, never heard of a Rhino machine, but give me a call and I'll do you a deal on a Prochem machine....01684 580684.
Regards
Mike
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Mike!
you have to be joking, there are a number of machines, easily found on the web, of which the Rhino is one.
there are several with 500 psi and three stage / twin vacs and they're not exactly new to the market.
what is really interesting, is the incredible diference in the price charged by importers of these machines.
Puzzles me, how companies like Prochem have a pro rata retail price, on both sides of the Atlantic, but others are DOUBLE the cost in the UK.
Angie
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thanks matt for the reply the Rhino is from master clean spec is very good and lots cheaper than ninja prochem and many others so why pay
£700 and more over the top for the same and better spec :-\
matt what is your psi on yours ???
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Mike, I have to agree with Angela. How can you not of heard of "Rhino" machines. They have been around for years, at least the 13 I have been in business for, or there abouts. Best, Dave.
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Terry, i bought mine from masterclean it has a 500 psi pump which is adjustable and 2x3 stage vacs i also got a twin jet wand with mine, this is the only machine i have ever owned but i think i made the best decision especially for the price. I don't think you will go to far wrong with this machine mate, i too was looking at ninjas etc but they cost more than double what i paid for mine, let us know how you get on,
regards
matt
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thanks matt was looking at the 300 psi ninjas are lots of dosh new,there is one on ebay now ;D rhino that is
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thanks matt was looking at the 300 psi ninjas are lots of dosh new,there is one on ebay now ;D rhino that is
Terry the rhino for sale on ebay is from Vernon Purcell who is a member of this forum and believe he sells lots of machines. Have a word with him and am sure he will have answers and maybe a demo? Let me know how ya get on mate as i too am intereted in the rhino. It looks a good machine for money and most parts are interchangeable nowadays(motors, pumps etc) ;)
Regards
Damian.
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Angela,
Like you I have been puzzled by diffrence in orice in Uk.
John Kelly did say on his machine he receives little or no discount from US supplier.
Then has all the hazzle of getting it here.
I know how you feel I want to buy some kit but know its a lot cheaper in the states.
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yes I did speak to vernon very helpful chap ;D they seem very good value for the dosh dont they ;D
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yes I did speak to vernon very helpful chap ;D they seem very good value for the dosh dont they ;D
I have seen on a site a rhino fitted with 3x3 stage vacs! :o now thats gotta be as good as a porty gets! ashbys reckon with their set-up ya can use 400ft of hoses so that rhino must be same?
Regards
Damian.
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damian i was the first to see the three vac beast when he had it on trial quite impressive . he had to reinforce the recovery tank with steel bars because of the massive lif.
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I'm about to list my 500psi Rhino on 'For Sale', if you're interested give me a shout 0776 481 9392.
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My understanding is that each VAC motor pulls about 1200watts of power, thats excluding the water pump. How can the normal house hold circuit handle that type of power pull.
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damian i was the first to see the three vac beast when he had it on trial quite impressive . he had to reinforce the recovery tank with steel bars because of the massive lif.
Peter yes i heard they have strengthening beams fitted. It must be on a par with the scorpion then? But as Jeremy says how many power cords are there-plus you will need one for a heater and i use powerbrushes also :o That would keep the custys meter spinning nicely ;D I would go the t/m option but i need portables on contract jobs plus am from Yorkshire and tight so dont want to pay for fuel etc!
Regards
Damian.
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rhinomachine must be made of weaker plastic then as ninja with 3 vacs dont need modifying !
now i hav 2 rhinos and a ninja and hand on heart can honstly say the ninja is the better machine rhino good but ninja better
how much is the rhino and what spec is it?
for around the 3000 pound mark including vat u get 400 psi pump adjustable pump tec pump 2 3 stage vacs heavy duty a 3000 watt bilt in v2 heater a 1500 w tank heater adjustable themo control for both heaters low level cut offs for both heaters a large cooling fan auto pump out with hose auto fill two 50ft leads plus imo allround better build q and if u dont need heat on a job u can just run it of one plug as the pump and vacs run on one and the heaters run on the other plug also handy if u want to hav a third vac running u only hav to hav to hav 2 plugs in plugs in
my rhino machines has 400psi pump 2x3stage vacs 200watt buit in heater runs on spilt circut ie one lead runs the pump one vac and half the heater the other runs one vac and half a heater has no temp control has no low water cut out for heaters has no auto fill or auto dump pump only 20ft leads has to hav 3 leads to run extra vac has to be mody to run 3 vacs cant hav built in heater for 3 vacs cant hav a 3000 watt built in heater because of wireing set up cant be run of one lead and the lead which runs the pump and one vac and half the heater tends to trip ellectrics some times as it pulls to much power and will melt an ext lead !! mine hav ! also has much smaller cooling fan with not enough vents imo
but they are a good high powerd porty but just not as good as ninja in performace and build q the v2 heaters are superb and the suck is better and a lot more thoght gos into how they are put together rember the ninja is built here the rhino across the water the ninja is perfect for running as a truckmount if u want like i do the rhino u can but just not as good imo with a setup like mine u can clean for 8 hours non stop without even going back to the van if needs be just rember these opions are coming from someone who has used both machines and still owns both machines and would still recomend a rhino to someone whos budget will only go as far as a rhino but if u hav few more pounds then !!!!!!!!!
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I think you will find that the Ninja already has strengthening bars. I recollect some years ago, the CFR machines were recalled as the recovery tanks were splitting.
The replacements had strenghthening bars installedwhich resolved the problem and interestingly, this was a single vac machine, but still had incredible pulling power.
Angie
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Hi All,
I recently bought one of Vernon Purcell's Masterclean inline heaters. I have used it all this week and it is a absolutely brilliant piece of kit! I received a flyer in my package for a 300 psi Rhino with heater for £1199 +vat. This is machine only but I'm sure I saw a post somewhwere where the wand and hoses were included. They are also listing 500psi machines on ebay one went today, last time I looked it was at £880. These surely must be an absolute screaming bargain compared to a Ninja. I think Mr Purcell also builds the machines here in the UK but I'm not 100% on that. If they perform anything like his heater I'd be going the Masterclean route. As Red Carpet said in an other post if you're going to go to the 3-4K bracket why not go the whole hog for an entry level T/M or Prowler
Cheers,
Adam
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Hi Adam
What machine are you using?
Do you experience a drop in pressure with the inline heater?
Not a problem if you have adjustable psi, sadly I don't.
Been using the Prochem one. Good to get started when the hot waters not
been switched on, but wouldn't want to work with it all day.
Cheers Rab
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Rab. ive just had a prochem inline heater break! not a prob-on the phone to a technician i use. He rings back quoting over 200 notes for a repair and prochem engineer told him good luck! They say its a right job sorting it! :o Weighing up the odds ill be placing an order for a different heater for machine number two. just a word of warning. ;)
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my prochem inline heater started leaking today.
Wheni ts working its good. Third one this year.
Mark
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Ive had a few prochem machines over years and they burn motors(vac) really quickly i found!! last year i replaced 3 :o One was done under warranty granted and i do hammer the machines-none stop. However the heater on this one has always been temperamental too and this has just ended its life-for good! when another motor goes then so will the machine-perhaps for a rhino? Have also got a ninja and that is a pleasure to wheel out as it never seems to break? just my findings of course ;D
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prochem in line heaters are in my opinion not very good you can get heaters much cheaper and more reliable, like vernons at masterclean
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adam the rhino that was on ebay was a 300 psi complete it went for nearly £1300 I bid for it was out bid :'(
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Hi Rab,
I have an Ashby's Diamondback 135 psi adjustable which I use with a single jet wand that I find works well with this machine, I did not notice any significant reduction in the solution pressure at the wand or stair tool at the end of 50 ft using the Masterclean inline heater. I have used it all week for up to 3 hrs at a time constantly, as the Diamondback does not have a tank heater. As I said earlier I'm very impressed with the heater. I'm going to measure the output temperature at the wand when I get a chance and will post the result on here.
Hi Terry,
I saw that it went for £1180! I noticed Vernon has been listing them one after another for a while now and they seem to be going at the £1100 mark. I bid on one when I was setting up and missed it too. What price did you get for a complete machine when you spoke to him buying the "official" route?
Regards,
Adam.
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why not ring vernon direct and do a deal with him you may be suprised.
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Adam he said for the Rhino I think it was the 300 psi with heater 1600 plus vat :-\ the ninja 400 psi comes out at £2100 plus vat :o the one on Ebay was 300 psi which would do us fine,he does put them on there as you have said,I do look at the ninja,they are only 7 mls away from us,if something went wrong,which is a bit to handy,vernon is about 1 hour not to sad,saving quite a bit of dosh :-\ I did notice some one said they have both machines on board,the rhino is very good,but thinks the ninja has the edge :-\
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Our 3-3 stage vacuum has strenghten bars that that Ashbys has been puting them.
We have a new portable about to hit the market it is 135 psi 2x3 Stage vacums Wand & Hose £999.00 +vat
If any distributor has not heard of our machine then please call me i will be glad to demo the machine along with our complete line of wands and hand tools
We now manufacture our own line of wands and hand tools.
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Vernon
Just receiced one of your Rhino leaflets along with some chemicals I bought off you on ebay (Arrived very quickly, many thanks!)
I'm seriously tempted but probably won't be looking to buy one until some time next year..
Is the offer on for long? Will you follow this with other similar offers in the future?
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I build all of my machine in the UK all my heaters my extractors and very soon our own down draught blowers.
We now manufacture our own wands hand tols and stailess steel van shelves.
We will be happy to send anyone our latest cataloge when its printed next week
We are currently seeking distributor from all territorys outside the USA
Vernon
ps. Ask Peter he will tell you that we do indeed build our own machines
Vernon
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Vernon,
What's your contact details please?
Arthur
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Masterclean
Unit 13 The Brunel Centre
Newton Road
Crawley
RH10 9TU
01293 561777
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Thanks. Do you have a website?
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I have one of these machines with the external heater, great bit of kit and for the money best value I have ever had from a portable, Vernon's been great with service too, set out a replacement wand imediatly as courier damanged first one during delivery.
The Tech that uses this machine the most, says that the heater is definatly better than the prochem one because it puts out more constant heat, it's been in daily use for a month now and no problems, to early to say how durable it is yet but a its a good start and I have had much worse with other machines.
As for a 135psi and 2x3 stage vacs with hoses and tools for £999. i'm having one as a back up! ( and if your reading can i have a discount Mr Purcell after i said all those nice things!) Mainly because that spec on anything eles would be at east £600 more
Oh and the stair climbing wheels are good too!
Only down side, it could do with a bracket/holder for the heater like the steampro, but as he makes them he'll probably have one this time next week,
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We have now put a support inserts on the machine to hold the heater to the side of the machine (Bracket will be extra). We find by listerning to what our customers require, makes good business sense
Vernon
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Hi Vernon,
Seeing you are online, Thanks I got your mail. I need a Female/Female straight brass coupling to allow me to join 2 male ended solution hoses together. The ones listed as far as I can see are male or female.
can you email me with availability and price please at techniclean@hotmail.co.uk
Thanks,
Adam.
P.s. I've been using your heater with 50feet of hoses for a month now and it's excellent one of my best investments so far! 8)
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see :) told you he'd have a heat bracket!
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The couplers are 1 male and 1 female
I am glad you like the heater, I always think a heater is a carpet tec best friend
Vernon
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Adam
Send me your address and i will get you a female - female straight coupler
Vernon