Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: rosskesava on September 19, 2006, 12:15:11 am
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I think so for the benifit of both.
The only problem I can think of is how about people like me who use both.
I would have set up a pole but I don't know how to.
Cheers
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Is there a vote on this?
Yes
at least then I would not have to read a lot of hype all the time!
JohnL
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Good point Ross yes I think there should be a seperate section for wfp.
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Maybe a sepeate section for Trad.....
Would make it easier to moderate, then any mention of WFP in threads (unless it is to point out that perhaps the only way of doing a particular job to a newbie is WFP) could be deleted.
You could cut out the endless hijacking of threads into WFP v Trad then.
On the open section things would continue as before, it might be a pain sometimes, but these debates are needed.
Ian
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Maybe a sepeate section for Trad.....
Would make it easier to moderate, then any mention of WFP in threads (unless it is to point out that perhaps the only way of doing a particular job to a newbie is WFP) could be deleted.
You could cut out the endless hijacking of threads into WFP v Trad then.
On the open section things would continue as before, it might be a pain sometimes, but these debates are needed.
Ian
I agree with Ian,
It would stop all the rattles being thrown out of prams every day over which method is best etc...
Trev
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As a newbie here I would prefer the clarity that seperate forum area's may provide.
Thanks
Dave.
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I vote YES.
Separate Trad section
David
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Hey
yes
seperate both sections it would be so much easier to filter what you want to read.
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I vote a 'Yes' too, with Squeaky as moderator for the Trad section.
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Hi Guys
If you have separate sections on the forum it will result in less people
posting. If you don't believe me look at the forums on cleaning pros
and professional window cleaner they are dead.
In my opinion this is because they have so many different sections.
All the arguments and disagreement's (and good advise) about all the
different ways of window cleaning are what makes this forum so interesting.
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I agree with D. Wood's post.
No don't separate.
True, it sometimes brings out the worst, but often brings out the best, a couple of recent threads testify to the latter. Some give clearer responses under pressure.
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If you have seperate forums then I will read only the one that applies to me, and that is traditional, but in the past I have helped countless guy's on here with regards to there batteries, battery chargers, split charge relays and electrical side of there pumps.
were all window cleaners but just use different tools for our trade............ So I vote NO!
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YES!!!!!!!!
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nope i think they complement each other! :-\
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After reading D wood's observation I've changed my mind!
Mind you.....I like the idea of making Squeaky a moderator on a trad section...Judging from the replies on this thread it doesn't seem as if he would have much to do though! ;)
Ian
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Hello,
In some other posts i had actually suggested seperating the trad and WFP but after giving it more thought, i don't think that you should.
It was mainly due to all of the arguing that you have to read through but what is more important is that nearly ALL of the WFP guys have a wealth of experience with trad and there are many people (like myself) that find their help of great benefit. (i'm trad)
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nope i think they complement each other! :-\
You spelled that right! ;D
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I think the forum should stay as one as it keeps it alive and theres always plenty to read about. If it was to split up it would just be a case of them and us.
At the end of the day we are all just doing the same job but with different methords and tools its split up on the other forum and nothing ever happens over there but if it is split up definately Squeaky for mod on trad 8)
Brett
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I think it should be all under the same roof as each person has their own experiences and knowledge to share which is why this forum is so valuable to us all.
As for Squeaky being a mod, not a chance, it would mean having to bite your lip when really you want to get stuck in and have the odd argument. Joy's of being a mod ;D
Best wishes,
Trev
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Sorry i vote no. In my oppinion the two go together. Cant see how anyone can do wfp without trad, my view.
Another main reason it would not be the same with out Squeaky ::).
Macc
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:P
;D
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Joy's of being a mod ;D
Trev
Trev, you now understand why I 'passed the baton'!
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I also agree with D Woods's excellently explained post;
Quote from D Woods:
Hi Guys
If you have separate sections on the forum it will result in less people
posting. If you don't believe me look at the forums on cleaning pros
and professional window cleaner they are dead.
In my opinion this is because they have so many different sections.
All the arguments and disagreement's (and good advise) about all the
different ways of window cleaning are what makes this forum so interesting.
so I change my mind and vote a 'no'; we're fine how we are.
Maybe it's good we've guys like Squeaky and Groundhog to give an alternate point of view; no matter how biased, anecdotal and often just plain wrong their arguments are. ;D
It would be a boring forum if we all agreed on the same topics.
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D Woods posted - - If you have separate sections on the forum it will result in less people
posting. If you don't believe me look at the forums on cleaning pros
and professional window cleaner they are dead.
A lot of the reason its dead is because people cannot get on to join! I've tried umpteen times and never had a reply
Johnl
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I dont think there should be separate sites ! But maybe all of our names/titles should include whether we are trad or wfp or both , so that every thread , message comment etc that we read or respond to we know in advance from which piont of view the topic is coming from or aimed at !
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A lot of the reason its dead is because people cannot get on to join! I've tried umpteen times and never had a reply
Johnl
Same here..... ???
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I have possibly changed my mind . . . . .
. . . . lets just keep the arguments going eh?
;D ;D ;D
JohnL
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I would say also keep it all as one so I too would vote a no ;D and I do agree with dave ,s comments ;D
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I would say also keep it all as one so I too would vote a no ;D and I do agree with dave ,s comments ;D
Who asked you, anyway? Go get your own section! "Rubber burners" ;D
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No, no way. We are all window cleaners no matter how we choose to do the job. Most WFP guys have been trad for many years before taking the plunge, and still have a lot to offer new trad guys.
We sometimes tend to forget that the vast majority of w/c's are still trad.
As Squeaky once pointed out, the reason that most posts refer to WFP is because we have more problems.
Many of the guys who are still trad are considering changing to WFP. Please don't change the mix, We all learn from each other. Dai
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Well said Dai ;)
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stay as one, why change something that runs smoothly so far, nice to hear both sides of arguments cheers dougster
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I think it should stay "together" as it is handy in so many ways. It may cause a few arguments along the way but an argument is just a tool to decide right from wrong and bad from good etc. There are people on here who are new to window cleaning and it is helpful to them to look at both worlds e.g trad and wfp.
If your in just one section, then it is fairly likely there will be less information to spark you off into "wondering" about what others are up to and the possibility of gaining an interest in there field of work.
When i came on here I didnt even know how wfp systems worked, but luckily there were ppl on here that talked about there wfp work and i had to find out from them what it was all about. I may or may not go into wfp, but still...the advice and experiance was there and now i have an understanding of it. Im not saying i couldnt have looked elsewhere for the info but it was still worth learning about!
at the end of the day, this is a very good forum and i have learnt a lot from the ppl on here and i'm sure others have too, arguing is common place when there are two different types of job within the same ballgame (if you know what i mean) but that does not mean its a bad thing...just real life!!
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How about seperate "Luddite" and "Progressive" sections? ;D
(Lights fuse and withdraws but can't help peeking)
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We should have 3 sections
1)Trad
2) WFP
3) Squeaky
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How about seperate "Luddite" and "Progressive" sections? ;D
(Lights fuse and withdraws but can't help peeking)
How about "Window cleaners" and "Road window sweepers"? ;)
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No No NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Dont change it.
Never change a winning formula.
I have Just read the latest posts on the topic of "Speed of wfp". Peter writes its been one of the best topics for a long time and one he Has enjoyed. Thats despite him being slagged off, But the guy has stood his corner very well indeed. The posts of Squeaks and Groundhog will be sadly missed if they are just stuck in the trad section.
The diffrent and varied views are one of the reasons I keep coming to the forum nearly every night much to the bosses consternation. I want to read whats been said. Sad I know.
Nel :-*
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What a boring forum this would be if it was split into two! :( And the wfp bandwagon would get out of control, if it wasn't for people like Squeaky and myself to bring it back down to earth with a bump ;D
I vote to keep the forum as it is and keep the lively debates going ;)
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;D I like sqeeks idea window sweepers ;D