Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Jason Hedges on September 15, 2006, 12:36:06 am
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Hi all,
Ordered some powdered enzyme prespray from craftex a while ago and it sat in the van gathering dust for a few months.
I was quite happy using my usual chems until I arrived on a job at the start of the week to clean an empty house with filthy carpets and to my horror it had no hot water. Boiler was awaiting repair and job was too big to wait for portable to heat up the water every time.
Decided to give the enzyme prespray a try!
I was so chuffed with the results. And working out the price for this product I came up with it would cost about £500 for the equivelent quantity of prochems trafficlean product.
This cost £14.10 plus delivery plus vat which was £25.38 all in.
A bargain if I do say so myself.
Picture:
(http://www.dirt-busters.co.uk/example.jpg)
Great results with a 100psi porty and cold water!
Landlord was chuffed to bits, NO TIP THOUGH :o
Never mind, all in a days work ;D
Kind regards,
Jason.
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Jason I have been using it for a while now, like you say hot or cold makes no difference.
I had it sent to me instead of Prochems because they were out of stock of Prochem Enzyme at the time I ordered
Mind you if you buy it on its own it can work out a bit expensive.
I usually make up my order of over £100 and get free delivery.
Try their premium powder a little more expensive than their ordanary powders it works very well hot or cold and it goes a long way.
Dave
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for reply. I did make up my order with other bits a got free delivery as you said. Just visited their website for price of said item.
I'll give their premium powder a try next time I put in an order.
This product astounded me especially using cold water. I'd have been happy with these results using overstength trafficlean and boiling hot water normally!
Kind regards,
Jason.
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I know it begs belief, the great part about the powder is it dilutes very well with no clogging.
If you really want to rip the dirt off a carpet mix the enzyme with the premium powder together. 2 to 1 Enzyme being the stronger.
And watch the carpet change colour as you spray it down.
You too will be like me splash and dash.
Only kidding.
Try it and see for yourself
Dave
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Thanks again Dave,
Great advice, I'll give it a go!
Took another picture of the door mat, dirtiest piece of carpet in the house!
A few passes with the stair tool and presto!
(http://www.dirt-busters.co.uk/example2.jpg)
I'm already splash and dash like you ;D. Only kidding :D
All the best,
Jason.
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This is an excellent post Jason. You were forced, purely by circumstances, to use a different product and got fantastic results aaaand even better. You now have no fear of a lack of hot water and also, you can take less time cleaning, as you can ' set up ' during the dwell time.
We used a fantastic product a few years ago, Bio 1+2+3, something, which came from Anderson Electrical.
Best results we ever achieved, but can't find it anymore.
Angie
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Hi All,
Enzymes are the best cleaning agents known to man BUT they have major health implications with respect to asthma sensitisation in susceptible people.
The problem is the enzyme being a catalsyt is not consumed in the cleaning process so some, that which is not extracted will remain and it is this which can form a dust , which when dry is the problem.
Very small amounts of enzyme can cause problems.
It is the proteases which break down proteins which have proved to be the worst .
I use enzymes very sparingly on things like blood, food etc but always extract very well.
The reason you don't see many enzyme products around today is because manufacturers like Prochem withdrew them.
Cheers
Doug
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Try craftex champion, you get fantastic results in hot or cold water 25l £32.00
Works on really greasy carpets and furniture.
John
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i used to use the prochem enzyme prespray and it was amazing, actually see the dirt dissolving straight away 8)
then they suddenly changed it without the enzymes and its not a patch on the old stuff!
unfortunately it does seem its being phased out!!!
steve
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i used to use the prochem one too, they changed it to powerburst now high alkaline i find it just as good be honest, to use seems very simular.
i wondered why they dropped the enzyme.
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Craig what do you reckon to the powerburst? Have been offered it at a good price as an alternative to my usual pre-spray, am just about ready to need some and am concerned as my usual stuff can be used on owt-anything and dont want summat i can only use on certain fabrics/carpets etc.
Regards
Damian.
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hi Damian, depends what you use in your machine if you use ultimate master or acid rinse then you can use it on anything, well i do anyway, because you neutralise it when extracting, white wool i dont use any prespray at mo cus im using ultimate master liquid and its not self neutralising like there powder form is. i just spray it with my wand first. cus like you say its pain having more than one prespray,
i would'nt use it on fabric though, i carry a seperate small hand sprayer for fabric prespray. ;)
i would recommend trying it, i get great results with it! i been using it about 2 years.
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Hi all,
Thanks for your comments and suggestion.
Angela:
Thanks for your kind words, I was close to walking away from this job when I turned up and realised there was no hot water.
I took it on after agreeing to do it blind through another landlord I clean for who knew this one and recommended me. Just thought lets see what this enzyme stuffs all about. And how glad I did. Yes forgot to mention dwell time, gave it a good 10-15 minutes.
Doug:
Thanks for the advice, I knew there were some health issues about using enzyme products especially with inhallation so made sure the property was well ventillated with good through draft. Didn't know about the other things you mentioned so thanks again for taking time to post.
Its the one and only time I've used this or any other enzyme product. Its not a product I'd use every day but handy to have on the van for 'special occasions'.
If I'd have had the time and as the house was empty it would have been interesting to compare different presprays and rinses using only cold water. Perhaps trafficlean and crystal, power burst and fibre and fabric etc. I don't think microsplitters wouldnt have touched it.
This carpet was so dirty and greasy similar to one of the carpets used on the prochem course I attended which was used to demonstrate a salvage clean.
Never mind, if I get the chance again and have more time perhaps I will.
All the best,
Jason.
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i worked at Prochem when we first started to manufacture Enzyme Prespary, it was the best product i had ever used!! and we used to mix it up in a big powder mixer no gloves or masks!! we are all ok!!
apart from yellowie green hands :o
Nick
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Nick dont forget your webbed feet ;D
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Chemspecs enz-all is similar
One of the most powerful enzymes in the industry
One of the most powerful enzymes in the industry, formulated to deal with the toughest protein, oily or heavy duty ground in soil. Can be used as a traffic lane cleaner / pre spray, or a very effective spotter. Particularly effective on ground in commercial applications this is a versatile addition to the range of any professional carpet cleaning company.
pH @ use: 11.5 - 12.5
Coverage: Up to 200 square metres per 42g
Dilution: 1 scoop to 4L hot water. T/M 10 scoops to 4L water
Appearance: Off-white powder
Fragrance: Floral
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Nick,
You may be okay NOW, but another 20 year, AGH!
Dave.
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I use prochems enzyme pre spray every evening after work! :o I mix up a bucket full every night when I get home and when I've rinsed out the waste tanks of the truckmounts I pour it in and presto......no foul smelling waste tanks the following morning! ;D
all the best
john
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Hi Jason, Please could you tell me if you used the powder or the liquid?
regards
James
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Hi all,
Jason,
That's good news, as I have by the looks of it just bought the same carpet for a spare room, although I can never see it getting in that state in my house, unless we have the Scottish national rugby team round for a indoors match ;
Enz-All!
Regards,
Adam.
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Enzall rules.
I am using it this morning on the carpets in a transport office I do every 3 months or so.
You can imagine how dirty they get what with drivers boots and mechancs all over it all the time.
Spray the enzall on it leave for the prescribed time and rinse it off with the hotest water you can get and it brings them up a treat.
It must work cos they gave me regular work! Easy really.
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is this enz along the lines of traffic clean ??? never used it,or is it just far better than traffic clean ???for prespray
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Hi all,
Thanks for the comments.
James, I used the powdered. Mixed 5 scoops to 5 litres of water.
Terry, I use trafficlean and crystal green for most of my jobs and find it very good. I used the enzyme prespray again yesterday on another really trashed carpet and had excellent results again!
Ketchup, boot polish, drink spills all came straight out without even going to the van for any spotters. Advised customer might not be able to get rid of some of the stains but they all came out. She was over the moon and so was I.
Not saying trafficlean wouldn't have done the job, just really liking the results using enzyme on VERY dirty carpets.
Wish I'd found out about it sooner!
All the best,
Jason.
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can you get enzyme any jany shop ???
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Wish I'd found out about it sooner!
Well I wasn't going to tell you about them! ;) ;D
A few years ago I used an American enzyme prespray (Bac Out) on a cat sick (or it could have been s**t ) stain, "that won't come out" says customer, "it's been there years and 2 other cleaners have tried"
Sprayed it on, left it 10 minutes, rinsed, gone!
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Hi Dennis,
You're a fan as well then eh! Its because of you that I found this product after you gave me the craftex micrisplitter to try. Went to their website to put in an order and found the enzyme. I owe you another one ;D!
Terry,
I ordered mine from craftex: http://www.craftex.net/id14.html
All the best,
Jason.
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thanks ta ;D
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Hi All,
I found out about Enz-All from Cleaning Systems UK in Scotland. These guys clean wait for it.....................................1,000,000 SQ/M of carpets anually, and they swear by it! good enough for them, good enough for me ;)
Regards,
Adam.
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Hi Adam, Give me a call.
07973 222 154.
Between 5pm and 7pm or Sunday afternoon,
I might even be able to give you some work if prepared to travel to Edinburgh.
Not a fan of Cleaning Systems UK.
Cheers
Rab
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Hi Rab,
Left my mobile number on you're answerphone but my Wife's gone off to work with my phone instead of hers! I'll call you tomorrow afternoon.
Cheers,
Adam.
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Hi Rab,
Interesting comment about Cleaning Systems-I only live about 2.5 miles away so it's convenient (begrudingly) to buy products there-however I'd appreciate it if you could recommend any other suppliers.
Like the web site by the way
Regards Tony
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Hi Tony.
At present buying from Matt at Cleansmart.
http://www.cleansmartsupplies.co.uk/
Never had a problem, fast delivery. He will give you a consignment number.
I usually phone the delivery driver to find out where he is, and arrange to meet him . Saves a lot of time.
Good Luck
Rab
Hows business in the Kingdom?
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Hi Rab,
Cheers for the info-things aren't too bad could be busier, usual competition-Chemdry, Rainbow & cheap operators etc-but holding my own.
Regards Tony
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Surprised about the negative comments concerning UK cleaning systems
angie