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Title: Double bird hit
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 14, 2006, 05:54:18 pm
IToday i seen my very first double bird impact marks on a window, I have seen many single ones but never 2 on the same pane if you look closely you can see one at the top left and another in the centre.

I am seeing one every other day lately, this is quite strange as in previous years i was lucky if i seen one a year.

Is it just me or are you seeing a lot more birds flying into windows this year, there was another one next door to this one on the other side of the house, so that was 3 in one day.

Dave
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Alistair@AWC on September 14, 2006, 05:57:17 pm
Dave,

Are you using WFP now??
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 14, 2006, 05:58:20 pm
yes i am wfp, i have been for over 12 months

Dave
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Alistair@AWC on September 14, 2006, 06:01:59 pm
That explains the bird hits..............your windows are much cleaner  ;D


buudduummttiisssss
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 14, 2006, 06:04:24 pm
I knew someone was going to say that, but i still trad that one

Dave
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Post by: Alistair@AWC on September 14, 2006, 06:05:18 pm
shhhhhhhhhhhhh  :-X
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: sunshine windows on September 15, 2006, 12:01:14 am
I have seen quite a few of these lately too.

On one particular house there has been a new bird mark on it every time i've gone back for the last four months.  :o

One of my customers windows has actually been chipped through the bird flying into the window. left great big skidders down the pane too the dirty little bugger  :D

Lance
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 15, 2006, 12:08:27 am
I had one on a nursing home and it must of exploded there was blood, feathers and crap everywhere. It must of been flying very fast
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Post by: groundhog on September 15, 2006, 12:14:45 am
I have seen loads of these as well, infact one of my elderly customers asked if I could leave some smears so the birds can see the windows :o
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: rosskesava on September 15, 2006, 01:32:30 am
Hi Dave

On the radio the other night this wildlife expert was saying.......

Also, before I write why, I've seen more bird splatters this year than ever before on glass...

Anyway, this 'expert' was saying that this year insects are on the increase because of new laws about insectisides. The insect nasty ones are now banned.

As a result the small bird population is on the increase because they have more 'insect food'. As a result so are creatures that hunt small birds and one creature that hunts small birds is the sparrow hawk. One way sparrows or any other small bird evades capture is to fly towards anything and then vere off at the last moment. The preditor chasing then flies into the 'whatever'. Sparrow hawks have increased in population by 15 fold in the last 3 years and the biggest increase has been this year because there is more food for them.

Also, the same 'expert' said that as small bird are on the increase, there are more of flying into windows because they see the reflection and think the reflection is another bird of the same species invading their territry so they attack.

It made more sense when he explained it.

Cheers
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Trevor Knight on September 15, 2006, 07:32:55 am
Maybe the birde in question was a manic deppresive and was trying to kill itself, perhaps the first attempt didn't work so it tried again??

Trev
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 15, 2006, 08:57:15 am
 ;D
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Post by: Sir Squeaky on September 15, 2006, 08:58:56 am
Maybe the birde in question was a manic deppresive and was trying to kill itself, perhaps the first attempt didn't work so it tried again??

Trev
Pump problems, connecter problems, spots......it all got too much for him. ;D

Sorry. :-[
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Post by: groundhog on September 15, 2006, 09:31:02 am
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: 24-7 S C Services on September 15, 2006, 09:45:07 am
Hi everyone

I have this one particular house I clean that has several bird marks on each time I clean it. The strange thing is, one time I went there was about eight different marks due to this on three front windows, so I went ahead as usual and cleaned them.

On the next visit the client told me I missed a window as one of the marks was still there. I apologised and made sure I gave it an extra good scrub. That night I was really mad with myself, because I do not miss windows. The following day they phoned me and asked if there was any reason I was missing that window. Shocked, I told them it had been cleaned, but I would come up and do it again.

So I arrived, set up, scrubbed, waited for it to dry and the mark was still there. Impossible I thought, so, I got my ladders out and went up to inspect the window.

After inspection, I kindly told my client the mark was on the inside and not the outside…………………. They apologised and I received a £20 tip for my trouble.

Andrew
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Post by: sussex187 on September 15, 2006, 10:20:16 am
had a lady the other day where the bird had actually shattered dble glaze window now thats going some lol
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Post by: telboy on September 15, 2006, 01:40:40 pm
I was working on a building ground floor heard a thud and a bird fell to the ground

I picked it up it was dead so I buried it in a plant pot :-\

Least I think it was dead :-[


Telboy ;)
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Trevor Knight on September 15, 2006, 04:11:19 pm
Maybe the birde in question was a manic deppresive and was trying to kill itself, perhaps the first attempt didn't work so it tried again??

Trev
Pump problems, connecter problems, spots......it all got too much for him. ;D

Sorry. :-[

Maybe it fell off its ladder??

Touché  ;)
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: windows_chepstow on September 15, 2006, 05:26:57 pm
I do one house that's a 'hot-spot' for bird-impact marks (have I coined a new phrase?).

It's a rural account and the living room has two sets of large patio doors on opposite sides of the room.

Each month there's at least one impact mark on at least one set of the patio doors.

My customer thinks it's because the birds think they can fly under the house; via the windows.

Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Pj on September 15, 2006, 10:45:40 pm
You can't fool me Mr Morris,

The seagulls down there eat and drink so much, it's a wonder they can even take off!

They hit the windows for a laugh!  It's a seagull thang ;D
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: EasyClean on September 16, 2006, 02:02:00 am
I've cleaned quite a few windows where birds have impacted on the glass.  In my previous job I once had to straighten out the front end of a vehicle (no, not mine) after a 'copper' had unfortunately 'impacted' against it at a very great speed which killed him outright. It made a right mess of the windows and all day I kept finding 'bits' as I was straightening out this vehicle.
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Trevor Knight on September 16, 2006, 08:31:39 am
wow, the bird must have hit the copper really hard then to kill him  ;D
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 16, 2006, 10:28:07 am
I saw another one yesterday,

I reckon i see 1 a day now , as i dont trad upstairs anymore there well could be more i have not noticed

Dave
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 17, 2006, 06:43:08 pm
I think this article helps clear things up

Be aware it is a very long read

http://www.swarthmore.edu/NatSci/es/birdcollisions.html
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 17, 2006, 06:45:23 pm
STOP THE DEATH OF BIRDS CRASHING INTO PANES!At least 250000 birds die each day from crashing into window panes or similar obstacles -often unnoticed by us human beings. A lot of them aren’t dead at once but die from internalinjuries later on. Then cats or other animals of prey eat the victims. What is more, during thehatching season the brood of these injured birds will starve to death as well. At least 70 birdspecies are affected, from barn owl and kingfisher to sparrow hawk and yellowhammer.Unfortunately, the well-known black silhouettes of birds of prey are useless. Birds do notrecognise non-moving silhouettes as a source of danger but only as an obstacle. They makeway for these obstacles and thus crash into the pane of glass next to them. If pinned up frominside, the silhouette will even not be recognisable as an obstacle if the window reflects.In 1996 already, I suggested a completely new approach to solving this problem, and from1999 onwards I have explained it in detail together with Martin Regner (see "Vogel undUmwelt" volume 13, publications in part 1, p. 31 - 41, Aug. 2002). Our idea is to mark paneswith patterns that warn birds but are invisible to human beings. Since birds are able to seeultraviolet light - which we cannot - we should succeed by using patterns that are only visiblein ultraviolet-light. For further information look up www.spinnennetz-effekt.de in the internet.Appropriate commercial products aren't available yet, but luckily there is a simple method ofpreventing the death of birds crashing into window panes: Just don’t clean your windows onthe outside anymore. And if you do clean them, dab some suntan lotion on the window paneafterwards. Dust and suntan lotion absorb ultraviolet light, while it is reflected by clean partsof the panes. A contrasting pattern evolves and birds will be warned and veer off in time.But what about the dirt and the dots on the pane? Here is a little experiment you can tryyourself right now: Look through a window at any object you choose, for example the numberof your neighbour’s house, and keep the picture in your mind. Then dab some grease on thewindow pane in a way that the dots are about a span apart. Then look again at the number ofyour neighbour’s house. You will see it the same way as before although you are lookingthrough a dirty pane!That is because we only see what we want to see. Whenever we want to see the number ofthe house, the daubing and the dirt are automatically erased in our mind - we somehow lookright through the dirt. Only if we want to see the dirt we see it, but then the number is erased.That is why we can even look through net curtains and see what is going on outside. We areonly world champions in window cleaning because people want us to believe we should lookat the window and not through it. By the way: First we polish the pane and then we pull thecurtain before it - what is that good for?So what is to be done? Do not clean the windows on the outside. Thus, the pane willrefract the reflections and warn birds. Put some suntan lotion (protection factor 30) inyour palm and then use your fingertip to dab it on the outside of the pane in small dotsabout a span apart. And if you do want to clean your window from time to time, dabsuntan lotion on the pane again after cleaning it. Ever since I have been doing that Ihave not found any more dead birds!Dr. Friedrich Buer and Martin Regner, Georg-Vogel-Str. 6, D-91413 Neustadt a. d. Aisch, Phone: 09161/7556, E-Mail: dr.friedrich.buer@gmx.de - State of January 2006
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 20, 2007, 06:18:07 pm
here it is PJ
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: ScrimShady on September 20, 2007, 06:27:01 pm
i had a pigeon fly into my car wheels today!!oopps!when i looked behind me it was like snow!! ;D ;D
Mrs scrim
Title: Re: Double bird hit
Post by: Pj on September 20, 2007, 06:36:37 pm
Thanks Dave

Think I'll eat my dinner before reading all that!