Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Abi on September 06, 2006, 01:07:26 pm
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I have been asked to put forward a quote for builders clean. The work will involve all the different levels of cleaning required and the possibility of maintenance of the site if awarded the 1st phase. I have been sent the plan for the site and sizes. There will be 10 units in all. This will be my first builders clean quote. I don't know how to price this work; how to determine the number of workers involved; timing.
I would really welcome your views on how to approach this work.
Many thanks.
Abi
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Abi
Even to give a rough estimate I would need a lot more information.
What exactly does the builder want cleaned?
How big are the properrties?
How many windows?
Have the windows been protected?
Cheers
Neil
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Neil
Thanks for your response. Units will be a mixture of office space and studio and the building work hasn't started yet. So information on windows is sketchy. The sizes of the units are as follows:
Unit 1
approx 500 m2/5400 sq ft
Unit 2
approx 500 m2/5400 sq ft
Unit 3
approx 350 m2/3,750 sq ft
Unit 4
approx 480 m2/5,150 sq
Unit 5
approx 310 m2/3340 sq ft
Unit 6
approx 100 m2/1080 sq ft
Unit 7
approx 325 m2/3500 sq ft
Unit 8-
approx 290 m2/3125 sq ft
Unit 9
approx 115 m2/1250 sq ft (TBC)
Unit 10
approx 115 m2/1250 sq ft
Grateful for your help.
Thanks
Abi
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Abi
Again you would need to know are the units going to be fitted out with carpet, vinyl etc.
The windows are usually the most time consuming so you would need to find out exactly whats involved.
Is there easy access to the windows or will some access equipment be required.
Are there any stairwells to be cleaned.
Sorry but you will need to find out to give a proper quote.
Cheers
Neil
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Thanks. I will go back to them with these questions.
Abi
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hi there
floor finishes are only relevant after the build clean
window access, can be quoted, a lot of people now go off the scaffold.
a lot of people price on sq ft, i dont
regards
martin
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Martin
I think I will charge by the sq ft it is easier for me that way because I don't have anything else to go on. Just want to know if I need to quote for the after build clean stage (sparkle clean). They have only requested two levels of cleaning. How do I differentiate the pricing between the builders cleaning and the sparkle cleaning.
I have e-mailed you.
Thanks.
Abi
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Hi Abi,
Try and speak to Tim Downer he has a spread sheet which is excellent. He did email to me but i erased it by mistake and was to embarrassed to ask for another! It covers three different levels and if i remember rightly you can enter dimensions and your prices and it works everything out for you.
Regards Rob.
PS I hope Tim don't mind!
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Rob
Thanks.
Tim, please can you help!! I am desperate for your usual "level headed" advice.
Abi
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Dear all
I am still struggling with this but I have found a way of pricing the job.
Just have a question, grateful if someone could help me - would the quote per square metre include things like skip to put the rubbish and debris for the initial build clean? Or, who is responsible for getting this of this rubbish?
I would also be grateful for a copy of Tim's spreadsheet - Tim I hope you don't mind.
Many thanks for all your suggestions so far.
e-mail: abitity@tiscali.co.uk
Abi
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Hi Abi,
Just use the skip/s on site, for just two cleans I would charge about half (sq ft) for the second clean.
regards
BSF ;D
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Hi Abi
Have sent you the pricing matrix thingy that i used.
Sorry, but do not get to go on the forum every day and have only just seen you message. Hope it helps.
Regards
Tim
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Hi TIM & Abi
i have been reading through the notes and its interesting , and very hard to calculate every scenario,
i would like a look at this spread sheet , i have one for carpets that works it all out sq ft and all
we run a small cleaning biZ in North Essex
we do on ocasion get requests like this .
Thanks
karl
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Hi Tim
Could I have a copy of the spreadsheet too please.
Just started doing builders cleans and it would be reallly useful.
Thank you
Andy
andy@afsystems.co.uk
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Tim
Thanks.
Abi
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BSF
Thanks.
Abi
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Hi Tim, any chance you can send us a copy aswell please thx
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hi tim any chance you could send me a copy have been doing build cleans for a while now on a fixed price system works well but would like to see the spread sheet.
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Hi Abi
Have sent you the pricing matrix thingy that i used.
Sorry, but do not get to go on the forum every day and have only just seen you message. Hope it helps.
Regards
Hi Tim
I have read your comments with great intrest. I have a small office cleaning business recently I been asked to provide with a quote for a builders clean. I would be really apricate if you could send me that spread sheet.
Many thanks
Neil Perera
Tim
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Hi to all the above. I have emailed you all.
Apologise for the lateness, but like i said before, am not on the forum every day these days. ???
Regards
Tim
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Sorry Tim! Thats what you get for being a God!!
Regards Rob.
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Hi to all the above. I have emailed you all.
Apologise for the lateness, but like i said before, am not on the forum every day these days. ???
Regards
Tim
not every day but at least 6.5 days per week ;D joke
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;D ;D ;D
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Actually.....After Mr.BSF's comment, would recommend everyone look at their statistics in their profile.
Could prove a tad worrying!!
I have been on this forum now for 5 days, 21 hours and 49 minutes. But would like to point out that i have not been on the forum much between the hours of 1 - 4 in the morning 8)
Tim
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Hi Tim,
think what you could have done with those 5 days on here ???
I didnt know that was there until you pointed it out, ive no way of finding out my true stats as ive been red carded on a few occasions :o
its like big brother is watching your every move ;D
regards
BSF
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hi there
apparently i dont talk about windows a great deal.
regards
martin
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thx Tim we hAVE RECIEVED IT,I WILL HAVE ALOOK OVER THE WEEKEND WHEN I HAVE A BIT MORE TIME :)
opps sorry for the caps
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Hi Guys would it be possible for someone to send me a copy of the said spreadsheet ;D
Ta
Tabbener@hotmail.com
Many Thanks
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Hi Tim
Could I have a copy of the spreadsheet too please.
Just started doing builders cleans and it would be reallly useful.
Thank you
Norman Herring
stormcleaningservices@fsmail.net
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Hi Tabbs and Normal.
Have sent you emails. Hope they help
Regards
Tim
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Many Thanks ;D
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Hi Tim
I've been out of touch for a while (PC Problems) and not been able to get onto the forum. Just getting into builders cleans, i'd be really grateful to recieve a copy of the the 'spreadsheet' it would be such a help at this early stage.
Ta very much, Tim
Best regards
Andrew
andrew@lettsclean.com :D
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Pricing of such a possible contract is subjective. Things to remember. You must ensure that you will have free and unhindred access to the areas to be cleaned. i.e. Once the builders have finished and ALL THE SNAGGING has been completed.
Treat the areas to be cleaned as intense D.O.C. So if you would use one cleaner to clean a specific area for a specific amount of time I would add 1/3 to half as much again for a similar are in the builders clean.
Once you have cleaned an area, get it "signed off" by the Builders/site foreman/client representative. If you have to go back to clean the area again, if the builders have been called back in, you can then charge for a reclean on tha area.
Equipment: Depends on the type of construction that has been undertaken and whether the contractors are cleaing up after themselves and this is just a clean and not a debris removal and all in sundry contract.
One last piece of advice: Check your insurances both PL and EL. If you usually undertake normal Contract Cleaning and not "one offs" that may involve you in areas that you have no H & S or Risk assessment for you could be in contravention of you policies. Sorry to be doom monger but stranger things have happened in the Cleaning Industry.
Good Luck.
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Hi Tim
would it be posible for you to send me a coppy of your spread sheet please. Thanks
willinghands
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Hi Tim
Sorry Tim I for got to put my email
Its wilinghands@yahoo.com.au
"would it be posible for you to send me a coppy of your spread sheet please."
Thanks
willinghands
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hi there
getting sign off is all well and good in theory,
we are into the last week of september, developers are struggling to get completions for next friday.
then after next friday, its the 13 week race to the end of the year, most developers year end is december, its hard work,!!!!!!!
regards
martin
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getting sign off is all well and good in theory,
Hi Martin,
Just out of curiosity, what do you do when the inevitable happens and the sparkie or the plumber has to go back into a unit that's been cleaned and makes a mess.
Loads of your posts come to a sudden stop, which always leaves me wondering.....
Arthur
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When Sparkies or plumbers go back into an already cleaned area?. That is why, when you have cleaned an area you should go to the site foreman/client representative and have the area signed off as cleaned to their satisfaction. If there is a recall to trades for some other reason, and a re-clean is required, then, if you have phrased the T & C's correctly you should be able to charge, somebody for the re-clean. If not it burns a big hole in the profit.
It's straight commercial practice. Once it's been cleaned, to clean it again costs somebody, and hopefully it is not the cleaning contractor.
It's not a theory. That is the trouble with the cleaning industry, we, according most trade sit at the bottom of the food chain. We should and must sit at the top of the food chain. Without us, that is the industry as a whole, nothing and nobody would work. It's about time we stood up and made the point. Cleaning, whether it be builder's cleaning, retail, offices or industrial, without cleaning companies, and their staff and more importantly their expertise, nothing would operate. I know i sound like a nutter, but it is about time that we stood up and shouted the point. We are the most important ipart of the service sector.
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Tomorrow, we finish cleaning 92 bedrooms plus some kitchens, toilets and showers, at Exeter University.
We started last Friday, and we let all the trades know that, we clean once and once only!!!
We know the Site Manager, and he has got agency labourers cleaning up after trades, he knows that there is no way we are going back to clear all the mess that has been left in the already cleaned rooms.
Remember. you price for 1 clean, you do 1 clean..... unless you are being paid daywork!
Stand up for yourself, or you will be walked over!!!
Regards...Jake Dillon..Westclean
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Hi Tim Could you Please Email me a copy of your spread sheet we have been supplying builders cleans for a builder and now they are asking for different levels of cleans three and four weeks after the job has been completed
regards
Gerard
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art
i make a commercial decison based on the site, but more than ever these days we take a day work shhet for a re visit
martin
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Hi Tim
Please could i have a copy of your spreadsheet
info@cleantechcleaning.co.uk
Many thanks
Karl