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Title: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: supernova77 on August 28, 2006, 11:53:15 pm
Hi,

Just a quick query...

All you truck mount users... How much water do you normally get through in a days work?

Thanks,
Andy
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Liahona on August 29, 2006, 12:07:24 am
Andy, to vague a question as too many variables. Different psi's, different volumes of water which is most important, carpet or furniture or tiles at 2000 psi, restoration clean, maintenance clean, poly carpet, £500 a yard carpet etcetera etcetera. Best, Dave.
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: supernova77 on August 29, 2006, 12:09:09 am
OK, sorry  :-\   I suppose I am interested to know what size tanks most of you guys have?

Andy
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Liahona on August 29, 2006, 12:29:45 am
Ok, I have two 50 gallon tanks plummed in. Mostly though you can connect to the house supply if you need too. On small jobs it is ni.ce not to have to connect though, best, Dave
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: supernova77 on August 29, 2006, 12:38:42 am
Thanks for the info Dave  :)

Andy
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Jeremy on August 29, 2006, 04:28:54 am
Using a Prochem Everest HP. We do between 4 and 6 houses per day. Usually 3 bedrooms. In these circumstances we recover between 100 and 150 gal per day.

With office jobs, 2 operators, 500 - 600psi, we seem to stop the machine to empty recovery tank (100gal) every 45 mins although its not always completely full.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: John Kelly on August 29, 2006, 08:02:35 am
We carry a 400 litre tank. With the Prowler this lasts 1-2 days depending on workload. And no waste tank to empty.
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Dave_Lee on August 29, 2006, 06:02:03 pm
Average full days work, I use around 70 - 80 galls.
Dave.
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: PaulKing on August 29, 2006, 07:53:15 pm
3 prowlers all on 400 liter tanks
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Damian on August 29, 2006, 08:18:32 pm
Any of you got water meters at home? Just curious as to how much it costs?
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: BRSL on August 29, 2006, 11:57:44 pm
Bu**er all south west water the most expensive water rates in the country 60gl tank £1.02p to fill on a meter, I generaly fill once before I leave in the morning and then once againg through the day at some point rarely 3 times
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Spot On cleaning on August 30, 2006, 12:08:51 am
Jay

if your tank is 60 us gallons, its just under 50 of ours.

Dave
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: BRSL on August 30, 2006, 12:13:40 am
Hi Dave

No it's a UK built tank and beleive it's UK 60 could be wrong though an 100 would last me most days so may up size when I get a new van

James
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Spot On cleaning on August 30, 2006, 12:21:12 am
You could be right, and i always thought as mine as a 60 gallon. It's got the cut out for the fuel tank.

At 227 litres 

227 litres x 1000 to give mililitres  = 227000 ml's

Divide this by a pint which is 568ml =   399.65 pints

Then divide by 8 (8 pints = 1 gallon)  to give 49.96 gallons

Dave
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: rambly on August 30, 2006, 02:30:37 pm
Truck mounts seem a good idea in terms of faster setup times etc. and I have been looking at the initial costs.

Has anyone got a clear idea of the payload on their van when it is fuly loaded with unit, water, tools, hoses chemicals etc.? :-\
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Buster Ingram on August 30, 2006, 05:04:47 pm
If you have a spare hour or so to go over the three summons I collected in the same day for being over wieght in my Reno Master when I had a Boxxer 421.
The actual carring weight is not always the gross weight.
If the van says its carring capacity is 1000kg and gross weight is 2800kgs 9 out of 10 times you will find it will only carry 850kgs.
My Fiat Scudo says in the sales blurb it carries 920kgs but in fact it will only carry 675kg! What they don't tell you is kerb side weight is empty. When I say empty I mean no oil,petrol,spare wheel, radio, even water in the radiator! and some no passenger seat.
So if you think you can stuff max carring weight in the back of your van think again.
Take into account all the items I have listed then work out whats left.

Incidently I have a Panther Pro 20 with a 50 gal water tank in my Scudo.

Hope this is of help

Dave
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Liahona on August 30, 2006, 06:03:31 pm
Dave, get a bigger van The one you have is obviously too small. Best, Dave.
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: PaulKing on August 30, 2006, 07:18:07 pm
dave would love to see a picture of your setup in the Scudo, you must be able to give  a tokyo resident a lesson in space saving   
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Dave_Lee on August 30, 2006, 07:28:33 pm
The gross vehicle weight includes the weight of the driver and all passengers as well as anything on board.
Dave.
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Liahona on August 30, 2006, 09:16:16 pm
Hey Dave, when I have been stopped before I was told the passengers didnt count and accordingly they were out of the vehicle when it was weighed. They also took into account the supposed weight of a full fuel tank too which was taken off of the over all weight. This was here in England not back in the states. Best, Dave.
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: BRSL on August 30, 2006, 09:33:42 pm
Not sure about total weights but ive been weighed a couple of times, the first was a while ago and was a similar experiance to what Dave has just said, I was weighed with the pasenger out of the van and once they had figured it all out was just on the limit but am convinced they forgot about my pasenger and would of made it over weight. but recently weighed my van with all tanks full including waste fuel's etc porty RX floor scrubber (battery powered) pasenger and various other clutter I was still under, I love having a big van, any one using a small van is just making hard work on themselves

James
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Buster Ingram on August 30, 2006, 11:04:44 pm
Liahona I don’t know what book your reading from if at all your on the same page as me but in my book gross weight means every thing that’s in the van irrespective of who is driving or who is in the passenger seat it all counts as weight! I have fines to prove it.
Luckily no points on my licence just a fine and tug on my forelock.
On a lighter note though I make sure I empty my flask of tea before I fill my water tank, you cannot be to careful now can you.
Larger van you all say, not on your Nelly. My vans just the right size for the work I do 
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Liahona on August 30, 2006, 11:14:39 pm
Dave, it wasnt a book it was at an actual weigh in as I was stopped. On a lighter note too. How can your van be the right size if you have fines proving it is too small. Just a thought. Best, Dave.
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Buster Ingram on August 30, 2006, 11:21:25 pm
Read my post closely! The van I was stopped in was a RENO MASTER  2.8 short wheel base with a Hydramaster BOXXER 421 fitted.
My NEW set up is a FIAT SCUDO with a Pro-mount 20 more powerful machine but far far lighter in weight!
Thats how I managed to size down.

Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: craigp on September 01, 2006, 08:42:00 am
the police will look at 'all up weight' thats van plus all contents, EVERYTHING!!

best thing to do is get weighed,

otherwise you need to take 'all up weight' subtract wieght of van , thats vans 'wet weight' (with oil, coolent, fuel ect.) then left over will be weight you can put on van rember to include you and passengers,

trouble with that method you need to know weight of every item on the van and add up.

much easier get weighed and look where you are from 'all up weight'
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Dave_Lee on September 01, 2006, 07:03:40 pm
Dave,
When your clean water tank is full and carrying all that is in your photo, are you still under the vehicles gross weight with yourself on board. I have the same van albeit a Citreon Despatch. I got pulled by the police and taken to the weigh bridge I only had half the chem bottles youve got on board but did have a Turbo Dryer in the back, however only half water tank full approx 30 gallon. I was 5kgs over, but was let off.
Dave.
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Phil Marlor on September 01, 2006, 07:17:14 pm
Dave,
When your clean water tank is full and carrying all that is in your photo, are you still under the vehicles gross weight with yourself on board.
Dave.

I know this for a fact, if he leaves the house without his wallet he is just under the limit.

With it,  he is about 10 kg over!

Phil
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Buster Ingram on September 01, 2006, 09:03:18 pm
Dave,
The all up weight for my van is 2330kgs,  with the water tank full (225kgs) it makes me 110kgs OTT, However I have had uprated rear springs fitted so it is not noticeable.
When I got pull last xmas they said they usually let 11% over weight go.
So fingers crossed I am well under what they are prepared to waver?
9 out of 10 times I am always late leaving home in the mornings so I am running on half a tank of fresh water thus making me gross weight.
But as Phil say's its the wallet that will get me every time ( I wish John at woodbridges would stop sending me money its playing havoc with the clasp on my wallet) ;D

Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: *paul_moss on September 01, 2006, 09:06:12 pm
Dave your van was not that nice and clean and tidy when I saw it, you have just done that for the camera havent you  ;)
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: HolmansUKLTD on September 01, 2006, 09:10:38 pm
why are you carring suger in one of them ceral containers.........or are they amphetimins :o
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: *paul_moss on September 01, 2006, 09:18:11 pm
One of Daves customers said to him today " whats all that white stuff around your nose " Dave said " Ive just had a floury bap for me dinner"  ;D
Title: Re: Truck Mounts - How Much Water Per Day?
Post by: Buster Ingram on September 01, 2006, 09:20:57 pm
Don't spread it about but it's not sugar Its real CHEMICALS thou know's :-X
With my weight restrictions I can only carry so much at a time. :'(
So I put a weeks worth in at any one time. ;D
Hope that clears that one up ;)