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Title: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on August 28, 2006, 11:48:53 am

If you use a wfp at all.

Can you state whether van/car, tank size, hose/brush type, trolley/backpack etc?
And % Domestic /Commercial.
Amount trad./wfp

I'll start

Estate car, 125L tank plus 125L in 25L barrels and Shurflo Backpack.
100m microbore, autobrush.
75%Domestic/25% Commercial
All wfp (except occasional blading of entranceways and inside work)

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: S.A.J on August 28, 2006, 11:56:10 am

Ford transit 650L ionics pro 5
100 meters microbore cut down to 50 meters for two hose reels.
80% domestic 20% commercial
25% of the round is still trad

Stuart

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: tightswerve on August 28, 2006, 12:15:54 pm

 
 
 
Astra van,6 25L barrels,3 section pole and trolley system,
(DIY SYSTEM bought off Matt) 90% domestic.
All upstairs windows WFP downstairs traditional way.

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: chineapplepunks on August 28, 2006, 12:35:54 pm

Me and my friend Mr. Zaltowski work from estate cars, using the most basic system going - a 125l, DI setup costing about £500 in total. We work to live not live to work, hence the basic setup. However, the point I'd like to make is that this extremely basic setup is all that's required to earn us on a full day at least £300 - £500. Our work is well priced and pulls us between £40 - £50 an hour. WFP earns us far more per hour than Traditional WC ing ever did. You don't need vast amounts of money to make the changeover to WFP, but it will be the best investment you will ever make. Our two penneth.....

Hello Neil, nice to see you using your time wisely on a bank Holiday Monday ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ::)

 

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 28, 2006, 01:59:38 pm

Hi Guys,

My personal set-up is as follows:

Large estate car, 320L tank, 2x60psi flojets
Trailer 400 litre tank, 1x 100psi flojet
2x100m microbore,
6ft(2x3ft) pro pole- vikan brush
15ft (3x5ft) pro pole- vikan brush
21ft (4x5.2ft) pro pole- super-Lite brush
26ft (5x5.2ft) pro pole- super-Lite brush
2x superlite poles (1- 45ft, 1- 35ft)
15%Domestic/85% Commercial
All wfp (except occasional blading of entranceways and inside work

Alex

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: sair on August 28, 2006, 03:14:59 pm

1 p expert 2.oohdi
500  liter single r/o booster system (on board 300 liters an hour production)
100 psi pump
2x100 meter micro bore 
1 super light weight 45
1 superlight weight  60
1 4x5 foot glass fiber
1 4x6 foot glass fiber
13x3 foot glas fiber

98% commercial just starting to build domestic round as it seems viable £35 minimum charge though

2 kangoo delievery systems only 500 liter and a 350
 

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: Tim Morton on August 28, 2006, 05:05:55 pm

I have a Diy trailer mount, 2x 175L tanks (350L total), 11L di vessel, 100psi shurflo pump, 26Ah deep discharge gel battery, 50M tricoflex on a decent metal freestanding reel, all mounted on a Indespension Daxara 148 trailer. I have a 18ft orange universal glass fiber pole with a 10" vikan brush with what looks like 4mm jets, and a gardiners 30ft pro pole, ( the one with the alu gooseneck ) with a 10" vikan brush with I think 2mm jets.

My work is 60% domestic, 40% commercial ( mostly shops ).  All my domestic except 3 bungalows is wfp. All my shops are done trad, except for cleaning their signs and their upstairs which I do wfp. I do some factories/offices and they're all wfp.

Tim

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: JohnL on August 28, 2006, 05:58:12 pm

 ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D 

Stuart, SAJ - love the signage on your van  --  'No Ladders needed'  -  better check the top of your van mate, someones using it as a dumping ground!

only joking and no malice intended but I did find that funny  :)


JohnL

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: Paul Coleman on August 28, 2006, 06:12:15 pm

Van with 800 litre tank with RO and DI and a 50 litre trolley.  A 36 ft and a 24 ft omnipole.  A couple of short poles too for ground floor.  A 1,000 litre static tank with RO.  2 x 50 metre heavy duty hosereels with Tricoflex hose (one hose now about 45 metres since I cut some off the end after it split  ;D  ) .
90% domestic. 10% commercial but looking to go more commercial.
98% WFP. 2% trad (approx).

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: S.A.J on August 28, 2006, 06:21:50 pm

it gets a lot of people talking when they read the side of the van and then see the ladders on top. People are intrigued to what it is all about, we get talking and they say thats a good idea i could do with that type of window cleaning, another customer in the bag ;D

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: Ian Rochester on August 28, 2006, 06:25:07 pm

Two vans,

Main window cleaning van is a Fiat Ducato 2.0jtd swb fitted with 400ltr RO van mounted system from Stream, includes a 4ft pole (self build)), 24ft Gardiner pro pole, 38ft Cleantech pole and finally a 60ft Brodex carbon fibre.

Other van is a Citroen Berlingo and is purely trad, it is  also kitted out for office cleaning and other general cleaning work.

Last split of work was 64% domestic, 36% commercial

Probably around 50/50 between wfp and trad

Also have a third van, another Ducato which is kitted out purely for carpet cleaning, and that's mine!!

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: Chris Cottrell on August 28, 2006, 06:51:51 pm

For me its as follows


Ford Transit 120 swb 2.5d
650l tank
100psi sureflow pump
Varistream2
100m Microbore on metal reel and pro conectors
1x38' Gardiner pole (residential) with flow control
1x30' Gardiner pro pole with flow control
1x4' DIY pole with flow control
all with Vikan brushes and fan spray jets

88% Domestic/ 7% Commercial/ 5% other jobs
All wfp (except occasional blading of entranceways and inside work)   Chris

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: P®oPole™ on August 28, 2006, 07:00:37 pm

Mercedes Vito 110cdi
650L Pro5 Reach and Wash System
100psi running two reels with trio-flex
poles as follows all ionics,
2ft
4ft
12ft
18ft
30ft
45ft
60ft

80% Domestic 20% commercial
95%wfp 5%trad +small amount of harness work

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: Clear Vision on August 28, 2006, 07:04:44 pm

S.A.J,

Whats that white cover on the side of the van (near the back) for?

Is that where you take your hose out from?

Do you have one on the other side?

Matthew

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: S.A.J on August 28, 2006, 07:13:38 pm

Clear Vision,

The white cover was where i used to take the hose from but now it is redundant. The hoses just come straight out the back doors.

There is another port on the other side which is used for filling the tank up at night.

Stuart

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: Clear Vision on August 28, 2006, 07:29:40 pm

Thanks,

Can I ask you why you don't use the port anymore.

Is your hose reel fixed into the van?

Matthew
Clear Vision

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: S.A.J on August 28, 2006, 07:36:38 pm

It was to much hassle getting the hose in and out and took to long to wind in. With the reel coming out the back i can now place it any where i want, to left of the van to the right of the van etc.

Hose rell is not fixed in the van.

Stuart

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: Clear Vision on August 28, 2006, 07:43:04 pm

Stuart,

You say you place your hose reel at any side of the van you like! It must weigh a ton???

What happens when you are pulling the hose from a distance? Does the reel not fall over?

I have my metal reel fixed to the roof above the side loading door. I have a vanette which has two side doors so I can pull out from whatever side I like.

Cheers

Matthew

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: S.A.J on August 28, 2006, 07:52:22 pm

No the hose reel  does not weigh a ton i use 50m microbore on a metal reel which is as light as a fether.

There is two of us, one pulls the hose other keeps an eye on the reel.

The van i have only has one sliding door.

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: mlscontractcleaner on August 28, 2006, 08:36:19 pm

Ford Transit, 400litre OTT system, 50m 12.5mm hose with 50m ona portable trolley if the original 50m wont reach. 3 orange poles from 18ft to 42ft.

Does all I want it to, but like most folk I'm never satisfied. I think I'm going to be when I'm planning to buy a more modern or a better piece of kit, then a few months down the line I want a bigger tank, longer, lighter pole, newer ven, etc, you know the score.

Work, probably 80% commercial / 20% domestic, but we look after places with there day to day contract cleaning too, which is great in the winter when it's pouring with rain and cold enough to freeze my wotsits!!!

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: DASERVICES on August 28, 2006, 08:49:54 pm

  Fiat Scudo,

  Went DIY,
  250L Tank ( too small now ) ( Gardners )
  100psi Shurflo ( Williamsons )
   Varistream ( Cleantech )
   2 Microbore hoses ( 60 m & 100 m) (Gardners )
   2 18ft poles with Vikan brushes ( Gardners ) but have add on section to make up
   to 30 ft
   DI Vessel ( Gaps )

   100 % Domestic
   99 % wfp 1% trad

   Doug
 

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: craig jwc on August 28, 2006, 09:03:11 pm

Renault Kangoo.

Freedom Trolley which i run a 250litre Tank with, soon to change to 400 litre.
Plus carry 3 x 25litres containers for trolley.

Shurflo Backpack.

I am now using 100metres of 6mm Microbore when using the 250l tank.

Use an 18 ft pole with Vikan brush with 3 mm jets.

4 ft pole with Vikan brush with 3 mm jets.

30 ft pole with gooseneck and Vikan brush with 3 mm jets.

50GPD RO-Man system running into a 1000litre IBC

Also have an 18 litre DI bottle in van.


Craig

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: abacus on August 28, 2006, 09:12:56 pm

Hi
2x ldv convoy 1000lt systems one with 2x65psi pumps one with 1 65psi pump both ott and cost was ott one I upgraded from 300lt added second ro have changed all but 60ft pole to vicon brushes

would not buy this type of system again would go for skid based and holding tank


work 50/50 commercial domestic abou five trad customers only

regards grant

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: Rob_Mac on August 28, 2006, 09:23:11 pm

1 x LWB Transit 02 - 1000 ltr tank - x 2 100 PSI pumps - x 1 100mtr hose x 1 90 mtr hose

1 x SWB Transit 03 - 1000 ltr tank - x 2  100 PSI pumps - x 1 100mtr hose x 1 90 mtr hose

2 x 300gpd ROMan ro units

1 x 4 x 40 commercial RO unit

3 x 1000ltr holding tanks in unit (trading address)

5 x 24 foot poles

6 x 2mtr downstairs poles

1 x 9mtr pole

1 x 15mtr carbon fibre pole

Loads and loads of spare kit.

50% residential - 50% commercial

Rob ;D

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: macc on August 28, 2006, 10:34:51 pm

Quote from: SAJ Window Cleaners Ltd on August 28, 2006, 07:52:22 pm

No the hose reel  does not weigh a ton i use 50m microbore on a metal reel which is as light as a fether.

There is two of us, one pulls the hose other keeps an eye on the reel.

The van i have only has one sliding door.

What i do is have a length of microbore aboout 15 foot long coming out of my side port that i connect to reel, when i need to move take it off the reel, slack goes in the back door & it just clicks shut. this way i can lock my van.

Macc

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: pjulk on August 28, 2006, 10:53:09 pm

Ford transit 120 swb 2.5

650ltr tucker system with 2 60psi flojets pumps.

Omnitrolley

Varistream ( Not used )

36ft powerpole

18ft extender pole

2x2 extender mini pole

omnipole mini pole

1 steel hose reel with 50mtrs of tricloflex

1 hozelock reel with 30 mtrs of microbore

200 GPD pump R/O with 10" D/I

400 ltr holding tank

Clarkes transfer pump in holding tank

12 Volt transfer pump in van tank

Spares for everything

I am 60% domestic and 40% commercial

I use WFP for 95% of my work

Paul

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: welmac on August 28, 2006, 11:14:50 pm

my own set-up as follows:

peugeot partner 800lx van
500ltr baffled tank
80mtr hose trolley
100amp leisure battery
shurflo pump
varistream
13ltr resin vessal

56ft carbon pole
merlin filters
800ltr "custom made" static tank (kind of slimline rectangular shape)

system and pole provided by...............WELMAC SYSTEMS  ::)

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: master cleaner on August 28, 2006, 11:27:34 pm

citreon despatch van
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/waterfed/S3010052.jpg)

2 new omnitrolleys

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/waterfed/S3010042.jpg)

400ltr tank

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/waterfed/TankBrackets.jpg)

2 backpacks

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/waterfed/S3010042-1.jpg)

2 18ft extender poles 1 30ft facelift pole and a 200gpd ro

100% domestic

gary

Title: Re: Which sort of wfp system do you use?
Post by: Archy136 on August 29, 2006, 08:36:41 pm

Peuguot Expert

650lt baffle tank

Van mounted RO and Di system with backwash.

Metel hose reel with 100m hose.

1 24ft gardiner pro pole.

1 16ft CF ionics pole with Vikan head.

50% Domestic, 50% Commercial.

90%-95% WFP