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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Mark M on August 25, 2006, 01:37:08 pm

Title: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: Mark M on August 25, 2006, 01:37:08 pm
Thinking about getting some conservatory roof ladders as have been getting a few requests to clean cons roof recently, 4 already this month

Just wondering if anyone on the forum uses them as they are quite pricey and your opinion on whether or not they are a good investment

Thanks
Mark
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: Jeff Brimble on August 25, 2006, 01:56:04 pm
1 week ago.
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=23451.0
and
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=23722.0
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: macc on August 25, 2006, 03:46:04 pm
Hi Mark.

I got mine this week, £450  :o. Ive went for a set because its safer in my oppinion & can do a much better job off them.

Macc
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: Mark M on August 25, 2006, 04:14:32 pm
Thanks macc

Think they will be a good investment, I'll probably order them over the weekend.
Hopefully should recoup the outlay in a couple of months

Cheers
Mark
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: mick hay on August 25, 2006, 05:11:56 pm
Got mine beginning this year. They are a god send!!!
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: steve jamieson on August 25, 2006, 05:51:06 pm
you can hire a set  from hire centres for about £24 if you want to try them out
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: Trevor Knight on August 25, 2006, 06:25:01 pm
Hi Mark.

I got mine this week, £450  :o. Ive went for a set because its safer in my oppinion & can do a much better job off them.

Macc

For that money I would buy a WFP 32ft pole and have it for other jobs as well as conservatories.

If you check my website you will see images of conservatories I have cleaned with WFP so you can see the results for yourselves.

Obviously if your traditional it would be useless, in which case the ladder it is.

Trev
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: Mark M on August 25, 2006, 06:41:34 pm
Hi Trevor

Thanks for the advise
I do use wfp, but never used it on a conservatory roof before. Does it a good job even the roof has not been cleaned for years and is covered in mould?

Thanks
Mark
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: Trevor Knight on August 25, 2006, 06:45:18 pm
Yes it works fine, take a look at my website

http://www.firstcleanservices.co.uk/8733.html

Best wishes,

Trev
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: Mark M on August 25, 2006, 06:57:22 pm
Trev

Looks good. You have given me something to think about

Mark
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: Trevor Knight on August 25, 2006, 07:00:38 pm
No worries Mark,

Glad to help.

Best wishes,

Trev
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: mick hay on August 25, 2006, 07:22:52 pm
I used to clean the roofs with just wfp til i came across reverse pitch roofs (roofs that slant towards the house) they are impossible to do unless you do have a ladder!!

 
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: macc on August 25, 2006, 08:42:31 pm
Hi Trevor.

I do agree with what your saying, wfp does bring the roofs up great but i just think conservatory roof ladders will make cleaning them so much easier, the same as wfp opposed to trade in the right circumstances.

My oppinion Squeaky,  ;)

Macc
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: 24-7 S C Services on August 25, 2006, 09:05:07 pm
Good evening everyone,

I have used the conservatory ladders previously, even though I clean all conservatories via wfp.  There only real down fall is, they have been designed for the industry standard size of a conservatory. There have been a few cases where I have used them and you could not get access onto the roof as the wall panes where to high etc. If you take a look at the first conservatory roof in my image gallery, the conservatory roof ladder could not access this.   

http://www.24-7pwcs.co.uk/html/image_gallery.html

WFP is fantastic on these roofs also and I must say the results on a glass roof are amazing and it keeps the client more than happy. The other good thing is, 9 times out of 10. If you do an excellent job on the external roof, you are more than likely to get the internal clean as well.

If you just use traditional methods and you do a high turnover of roofs each year, it would be a worthwhile purchase. However, if that does not apply to you, I would recommend hiring them from HSS (you need to book them a few weeks in advance as not every store has them). Also, book three or even four in for one day, and spread the hire cost of the ladder between those three or four clients, then it has not cost you a penny so to say.

Hope the above is of help

Many Thanks

Andrew



Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: Trevor Knight on August 26, 2006, 08:48:24 am
Hi Andrew,

Just looked at your gallery, some nice work there mate!

Trev
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: Ian Rochester on August 26, 2006, 09:09:29 am
Andrew,

Just looked at your images, very good, very effective, picture paints a thousand words as they say.  Were these all done just using WFP? as I can't get satisfactory results just using the pole, it may be that the brush we use is too soft (vikan)

I also noticed on your gutter cleaning that one of the roofs is covered in moss, have you ever offered to do this for them?

We did one last year, using 7.5m pressure lance, not as bad as yours, charged them £400 and it came up gleaming.  Just something to think about!

Ian
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: 24-7 S C Services on August 26, 2006, 10:19:42 am
Morning everyone,

Thanks for your comments on the gallery Trevor and Ian. I always take pictures of before and after on all conservatory/ fascia and gutter jobs. This make selling the next job 100 times easier.

All the work is via water fed pole. I do not use Vikan heads (nothing against them, I just feel especially on windows, they can cause spotting, due to the bristle ends breaking off. Currently I use the double trim Ionic brushes.

I have thought about going into moss removal, but I will only do this after training and also the purchase of cherry picker (not van mounted). A few of my clients have asked me in the past and one client even told me he has had a quote for 3.5k to remove all the moss from his roof. Jokingly, I told him I would do it for 2k and he accepted, however, he is aware I will not do it until I have the right equipment.

Many Thanks

Andrew
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: macc on August 26, 2006, 05:59:37 pm
Morning everyone,

Thanks for your comments on the gallery Trevor and Ian. I always take pictures of before and after on all conservatory/ fascia and gutter jobs. This make selling the next job 100 times easier.



Andrew

I think your gallery is spot on.  ;D

Im going to start taking a pic as well, at least then the customer can see for themselves, thanks for the idea Andrew.

Macc
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: craig thomas on August 26, 2006, 06:39:22 pm
Hi.
Has anybody made their own conservatory ladders, I have been thinking for a while if it would be possible to convert an old set of alloy ladders and making my own, there doesn't seem that much to them, any ideas would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: Jeff Brimble on August 26, 2006, 07:19:11 pm
Snap. I think Mick mostly uses the "leanto" bottom section, part of his ladder. And was wondering about fitting a stand off device that bridged the roof spars,  onto a cut down double extension that would allow height adjustment.
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: clairekuccuk39 on August 26, 2006, 08:13:17 pm
how much did u charge this job?
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: mick hay on August 26, 2006, 08:36:12 pm
Believe me, you dont want to build your own!!

When you at the top of that roof cleaning the the other side over the finials cos its a reverse pitch.....you want to know its safe.

I do mainly use the ladder as a stand off, but there are many times when u do need the roof attachment.

Another major part of the ladder is its adjustable feet, you deffo need these to be able to secure the ladder safley.

The money that can be earnt from this service is unbeleivable , the ladder will earn the its money back in no time. its a small amount to pay to be professional and be able to tackle any roof.

Up to now i havent come across any roof i cant clean. For safety sake....dont make your own!!!
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: clevs on October 23, 2006, 02:16:06 pm
Hi, could you tell me where you brought these conservatory ladders from ? and the cost ?..... I always use my pointers to do the roofs, but with these ladders I recon I could double my money for a much better job.... Thanks
Title: Re: Conservatory Roof Ladders?
Post by: macc on October 23, 2006, 07:07:02 pm
Hi, could you tell me where you brought these conservatory ladders from ? and the cost ?..... I always use my pointers to do the roofs, but with these ladders I recon I could double my money for a much better job.... Thanks

Hi.

Got mine from Midland Ladder Co LTD, Tel 0121 430 3561. £450.00 Delivered next day.

They are the biz & your right on both counts.

Macc