Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Damian on August 17, 2006, 07:53:56 pm
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Hi all, today have had a contract job on in a city near me. The job was for supplying and fitting miles of new carpet tiles and cleaning ten large office carpets. Now we all know the arguments between portys and t/m's however it was slap bang in the centre of the city with no parking whatsoever! One van gotta ticket for calling warden a little hitler! So nearest parking was quarter of a mile away. Now i understand how "great" t/m's are supposed to be but how do ya get around this problem? :-\ :-\ Regards Damian.
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Dry fusion/texatherm ;D
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Nice thought Steve however the carpets were SOO bad that im afraid only HWE would touch them!! Personally i put two portys on it. The two guys i had fitting tiles were amazed at the results as they thought i would end up replacing the old carpets with tiles aswell. ::)
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I have had some excellent results on trashed carpet tiles using D/f.Nursery I done recently, last guy said they would need replacing after he cleaned them using hwe as a lot of the marks he was unable to remove I now have a list of 18 mothers wanting their carpets cleaned by me 8)
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You would be surprised at the results from a portable if you pre vac- pre spot / prespray / Agitate before you extract out.
Steve maybe the other guy was a crap carpet cleaner and only intrested in the money, how does the dry fusion machine work ? they have a depo near us (leyland) and i looked at there machines before buying Prochem's as dry fusion wouldnt sell me a machine ? (protecting there market i think)
Paul
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Cheers Steve, not entirely convinced mind? maybe ill give it a go at some point when i get time? must say tho-the job wasnt to clean tiles it was various carpets and the results were superb when finished!! :o there were maybe twenty guys milling around on various jobs and they all went to have a peak as word went round that a black carpet was actually turqouise underneath and it felt better to walk on as the pile was fully lifted to its former state!! really dont think dryfusion would have touched it! it needed high pressure hot water and a good scrubbing! downside was i didnt put a bucket boy on site and was a long corridor to tap and waste empty! boys were not pleased with me ::)
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If you want to see and try for yourself not only the Dry Fusion but various other LM and VLM systems in a real world working environment, then come along to the "Hands On Experience" just off the M54 near Wolverhamton on Monday 18th September. It will be owner/operators using their own equipment so there will not be any "selling" involved from manufacturers.
There's more about it here: http://www.ncca.co.uk/NCCA_News.htm#NCCA_Hands_On_Experience
I hope to be able to put a few more names to faces on the day. I'll be the one with the balding head and a few six packs around his waist :(
Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
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Please wear long trousers this time Ken. :-*
Shaun
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many thanks Ken. will try to get the time off to make one.
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Damian
(Now i understand how "great" t/m's are supposed to be) they are!!! Would never be without mine! ;D ;D
Shaun
Perhaps leather this time ???
Len
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hello boys all i use is porty here and have done some real shocker carpets commercial and as long as u pre spray before hwe and dont go to fast i allways get great results.if maybe heavy traffic areas bad just scrup them and comes up a treat.as long as u have a good porty with at least 400psi and cood chems u will get good results.most ppl dont give a if it takes a lil longer to dry its the results that counts.most comm jobs have av carpets amyway with mainly tiles or poly and they dry real fast
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Len im not being derogatory towards t/m's in any way. But its horses for courses. All im asking is that in the situation i was in yesterday then how would most t/m owners get around this problem? :-\
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its simple for TM users, take the porty out of the shed, go do the job !
oh then stick it back in the shed were it belongs! or a skip which evers closest really.
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I pass them onto a friend who uses a portable, because I'm not desperate for work I can chose what I do, and I chose not to lug buckets about.
there are lots of 'what if.....' questions with truckmounts & portables
what if there's no electric
what if there's no water supply
what if you've got a bad back and can't lift it up 10flights of stairs ;)
ADAPT....IMPROVISE....OVERCOME!!!
Mike
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Didnt need to lift the machines and gear up ten flights of stairs mike-lift worked perfectly! plus i also choose what work i take on however when there are lots of tiles to supply and fit aswell then the job was too good to turn down-not that i ever would! ;) ;D Damian.
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Try contacting your local authority with responsiblity for parking ( it's either police or council) and inform them that due to contamination you will be removing waste from said building and need access to "Vital Health and Safety equipment" during this time and also the vehicle will be carring hazardous waste.
So you need a permit/approval to park on lines and would they like you put up a exclusion zone arond the vehicle / or / ( this being work for them) would they like to put cones and tape out in the morning and await your arrival?
Cue; departmental flap- ( THE TRICK IS TO GET THIER NAME) and a usually they say "WE'LL INFORM THE PARKING OFFICERS"
Done this maybe 10 times, have the local ( to me) department numbers on my phone, it's how you phrase it to them really.
By the time you have the tiket it's too late but if they write a ticket on a van that has a sign saying "MIKE SMITH AT TRAFFIC CONTROLL HAS GIVEN PERMISSION FOR THIS VEHICLE TO PARK HERE TO REMOVE WASTE" you can bet he'll think twice which is once more than normal
And if you do get a tickect you can cause a hell of a Sh*t storm later, as no authority can denie you acces to your HSE !
Failing that aim you pump out at the parking hitler and let him have it!
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mmm, not sure they'll except responsibility for your HSE at work.
what about road safety, as your parked on doubles that may be more dangerous.
i do know that road workers, contracters, only have to give authorities NOTICE to dig up roads where ever that need be and NOT seek permision, maybe somthing simular might apply for essential building maintence, which we could maybe squeeze into that catagory
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there are lots of 'what if.....' questions with truckmounts & portables
what if there's no electric
what if there's no water supply
what if you've got a bad back and can't lift it up 10flights of stairs ;)
What if there is no parking?
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Try contacting your local authority with responsiblity for parking ( it's either police or council) and inform them that due to contamination you will be removing waste from said building and need access to "Vital Health and Safety equipment" during this time and also the vehicle will be carring hazardous waste.
And if you do get a tickect you can cause a hell of a Sh*t storm later, as no authority can denie you acces to your HSE !
Don't you need a licence (££££s) to transport "hazardous waste"....?
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CRAIGP
They are'nt responsible, but at the same time cannot deine you your rights.
and as for double yellows, your missing the point,which is to leave the burden of responsiblity with the authority( if your presence require the street to be closed too traffic) that's tnow their problem
But I would recomend using a non sign writen van/ or a whitewashed van in that case!
Try and rember their only one form to ticket you and 20 to allow you to do what you just told them, I even have a email address that when working in city centre we send over a risk assetment ( you should have one) it works for me!
rember it not the spanish inquistion I'm just trying to pass on some infomation
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there are lots of 'what if.....' questions with truckmounts & portables
what if there's no electric
what if there's no water supply
what if you've got a bad back and can't lift it up 10flights of stairs ;)
use a portable thats what their made for !
What if there is no parking?
Do your really want the job??????
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Try contacting your local authority with responsiblity for parking ( it's either police or council) and inform them that due to contamination you will be removing waste from said building and need access to "Vital Health and Safety equipment" during this time and also the vehicle will be carring hazardous waste.
And if you do get a tickect you can cause a hell of a Sh*t storm later, as no authority can denie you acces to your HSE !
Don't you need a licence (££££s) to transport "hazardous waste"....?
yes if you have any !
The point is to put the ball it thier court, so much so they won't ticket you, and just let you get on with it.
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Many thanks for all the info guys. The job was completed today and all were chuffed including myself-which takes some doing!! As for re-loading the vans it was a simple case of getting gear dowstairs(in lift) and minus many boxes of carpet tiles(now fitted to floors) and onto pavement. Two of us went for vans and quick pull up with hazards, thro it all back in and hey presto DONE!! to be honest with you all it was a lot easier putting porty's on the job and just getting it done. Perhaps i may buy a t/m someday but somehow i dont think i'll be rushing! ;D Cheers all. Damian.
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glad you got it sorted :)
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Hi all,
About 2 years ago I had a parking ticket for parking on double yellows while working in a bank! so I telephoned them and told them I had lost the ticket or it had been stolen, and paid the fine. but I was told it was illegal for anyone to remove the ticket from the vehicle(not even the police or traffic wardens) so it got me thinking and it must be right because I use the same said ticket regularly! and never had any trouble since! ;D
all the best
John
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Damian
I know just a wind up, I have to take my T/M everywhere it’s bolted down, yes there is an alternative bit late in the day for me. Done two jobs last Saturday in Tottenham court road a porty is a handy bit of kit even that it only 135psi back in the shed till next time.
Paul
See you have been round the block re parking, great game ant it! And I’ve pulled some stunts believe me!
Over all am advocate of customer’s pays, small print is good smaller is better ;D
Len
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A cleaner knows his market if you are doing this type of work a TM is no good, but I would strongly recommend Dry Fusion or Texatherm or a cheaper alternative Charlie Pads.
Damian you will be very surprised with the systems.
Shaun
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Shaun. Nowt so clean as a scrub up wi soap! You should be well familiar with this statement? (same city etc?) There will never be a substitute for scrubbing with shampoo or soap! same goes for cc! other methods to me pale into insignificance! do check out "THE LATEST HIGH INTENSITY LASER GUIDED DRY FROM THE ROOTS" etc but am afraid its HWE to me everytime! Always have custys ringin saying top job. Never had one saying it was wet a long time!? ;D
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Don't be so Drakonian there's more ways to skin a cat!
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Is Damien taking the mick'.
Any one who's been in c/c for a long time is aware of the reason for NOT using 'soap' or 'shampoo'.
When I started in c/c many years ago, the only chemicals were soapy, and were very difficult to extract.
Fortunately, with 'low foaming' and new generation products, life is much easier. Would you really go back to using a horse and cart Damien.
angie
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Hi all,
About 2 years ago I had a parking ticket for parking on double yellows while working in a bank! so I telephoned them and told them I had lost the ticket or it had been stolen, and paid the fine. but I was told it was illegal for anyone to remove the ticket from the vehicle(not even the police or traffic wardens) so it got me thinking and it must be right because I use the same said ticket regularly! and never had any trouble since! ;D
all the best
John
[/quote this is ok until a trafic warden decides to read the ticket and will either prosicute or just put another one on top
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That's just it! they can't read the ticket as it's sealed in polythene! had them looking at the ticket but it can't be read through the yellow and black polythene packet! ;D
All the best
John
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nice one perfect long may it stay there good luck to you
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Cheers Steve, not entirely convinced mind? maybe ill give it a go at some point when i get time? must say tho-the job wasnt to clean tiles it was various carpets and the results were superb when finished!! :o there were maybe twenty guys milling around on various jobs and they all went to have a peak as word went round that a black carpet was actually turqouise underneath and it felt better to walk on as the pile was fully lifted to its former state!! really dont think dryfusion would have touched it! it needed high pressure hot water and a good scrubbing! downside was i didnt put a bucket boy on site and was a long corridor to tap and waste empty! boys were not pleased with me ::)
Try the Dry Fusion i have cleaned 5000m2 of apartment blocks ( with a borrowed DF unit) which haven't been cleaned for 4 years and i was amazed :o really amazed so i brought a 2nd hand DF unit and gained more contract work, the only problem was i needed some restoration pads and hand mits which df promptly sold me then called back and stated i had to by 25ltrs of there product at£110+vat ::) as your not supposed to use any other product with it. So i did and i will test it out over the comming weeks.
Nick
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Angela that is a saying round here with soap etc. I only use the best chems on offer that yes are non foaming! As for the price of diesel then a horse/cart would be a lot cheaper!!
Nick.
Please let me know how ya get on with th d/f on this board. Must confess to being a luddite with my work mainly as i have perfect results each and every time with hwe. however am always ready to be open minded? would love to see before and after pics and to know if d/f lifts the pile etc? many thanks for your input. ;)
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Will do also the speed is great we cleaned a 17floor towerblock 1250m2 in one day!!
praise the Lord :P
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Damian, I am in Sheffield, let me show you what charly pads can do!
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Yep i use them aswell not as fast as DF and not as good (in my opinion and i have cleaned over 10000m2 with them) but about 30times cheaper!!
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jasonl, id take you up on that offer if you were serious, im based and rotherham and would like to see the charly pads in action, ill give you some graft in return!!!
regards
Dene
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Jasonl. where bouts in Sheffield are you mate? You must be serious about these charly pads. yeah i would love to see the results. just let me know when? ;)