Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Chris Cottrell on August 16, 2006, 09:46:07 pm
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My wife wants to come with me on a big job soon , so was thinking if she's gonna come she may as well work.
Ive got 650 ltr tank, 100 psi sureflow, Varitream2, 100 metres of microbore, and microbore to std hose adapter
Q. Can i put a "Y" piece connector on the end and use two poles will it work or am I dreaming ?
Chris
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Q. Can i put a "Y" piece connector on the end and use two poles will it work or am I dreaming ?
Chris
I think the answer is yes.
I have a gardiners 2 people setup although i use it alone.
All i need to connect to make it a 2 people setup again is the Y piece and another reel + pole.
mark
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so was thinking if she's gonna come she may as well work.
thats the way Chris, take the wife out for the day :)
JohnL
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Don't forget to buy her lunch, spam and egg usually does it
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Chris A
she just said yuk to that mate ;D
Mark
I'm thinking of the "Y" piece on the end of the 100 mtr hose then two poles
will that work do you think , I dont want to buy another reel yet just another pole maybe an 18' to do the bottoms with , that way when shes not with me I can use it on smaller properties
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That's my lunch mate, Salad for her with extra seeds. Linseed are ok I think ;)
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I'm thinking of the "Y" piece on the end of the 100 mtr hose then two poles
will that work do you think ,
I hadn't thought of that but if you can get a Y piece to fit the hose etc i can't see why not.
I'm crap at DIY and if i can't delegate it normally gets left until i can. But i'm sure if you have the connectors it will be fine. All you need is to generate enough pressure for 2 poles and 100psi pump will do that.
I would also be interested in how you get on with it and what parts you use to achieve this.
good luck
mark
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you should in theory have 2 hoses and 2 pumps and varistreams
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you forgote to say , and two wifes ;D
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you should in theory have 2 hoses and 2 pumps and varistreams
def the right way to do it, but we used to run 2 poles off a 60psi 6ltr/min shurflo pump, plus we were using 50m microbore on each reel, worked fine but then again the pump ran at full power all the time.
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It will work but your pump will be going 10 to the dozen.
I have a Y piece at the tank exit into 2 x pumps each with its own hose, works fine and no stress on the pumps.
Trev
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My girlfriend would rather eat glass than come window cleaning with me
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Hi Chris,
Your flow rate would not be sufficient if you split the flow at the end of your microbore, but if you fitted a hozelock 'y' piece and two tails to the end of your current hose from pump, you will then be able to link a seperate hose reel and pole on.
A 100psi pump should be fine, it will actually probably put less strain on the pressure switch as you are more likely to have a constant flow of water.
Alex
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Hi Chris,
I have done what you are planning to do. I have also used two reels. I find find with a y piece in the end of your microbore that when you turn the flow rate up on one pole the flow rate on the other slows down and it is quite annoying when you need a good flow and the wife turns the flow rate up on her brush so you just get a trickle. Having said that I have flow control switches cable tied to my poles where as you have varistream so that should make a difference. I hope this is helpful to you.
Lee
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the big problem is when you want to work at different hieghts.
At cleantech a 2 man setup has 2 pumps, 2 controllers, 2 hosereels etc because its the only way to do it right.
If you do want to split your single reel to 2 poles, use a Y peice, and fit a valve to the pipe feeding the lower of the 2 poles, but not the higher one - this way you can restrict the lower pole to give the higher pole water, but you never choke the supply and cause it to cut off completely, or worse burn out a pump.
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What Justin says is spot on in theory,
However we have been running one of our rigs with a 100psi Flojet pump and 2 reels of 100m microbore, we work at different heights (up to 50ft whilst someone else is at 15ft) never had any problems and always had good flow rate. We have used this set-up for about 3 years now with microbore and about 18 months before that with standard hose, same pump no problems.
Alex
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I dunno Why I doubted anyone, I guess I needed to see it for myself, but have now tried it
I've put the "Y" connector after the pump then connected two reels (1 is a 45mtr std diameter and the other is 100mtr microbore 6mm id ) and two poles ( 1 at 30 ft and 1 at 4 ft ) both work absolutly fine Ive set the varistream at 12 oclock ( 2.1 lpm ) which is normally set at 11 oclock ( 1.4 lpm )
I did think when I shut of one pole the other would spray out like you never seen but no not much differance really
so chuffed to bits, thanks all
Chris
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here's an update on my saga
In practice it did work to an extent but in reality not so great I seem to spend quite a while retraceing my steps to the other pole to turn down the flow valve because I was loosing pressure on the big pole , when the flow on the big pole went down I found my self slaving on for a short while untill it became unusable and as a result when we had finished and packed away and doing the insides I noticed a few windows with some poor rinsing on them, luckily being on the insides we could open the window and redo them from there, so lack of quality results from poor rinsing ( not that we dont already know this of course )
I defo think for next time we need to have a second pump and varistream to ensure we both get good results & not just the lower pole user
Live and learn eh
Chris
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Your main problem Chris will have been using two different bore Hoses, this will have created the main imbalance.
We always when using one pump use matched lengths of microbore, the pole height on the end does not seem to make any real difference.
Alex
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I see what youre getting at Alex but to my mind if im going to spend another 100 or so to set up the second user its going to have to be microbore 100m , so then I may aswell spend a bit more on a pump and varistream then we both have total control over our own flow
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That is the ultimate, you're right. It is the setup I have on my vehicle, 2x 60psi flojets 2x 100 metres microbore no need for varistream. In my mind perfect.
Alex
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hi chris
i tried two brushes onto a micro fibre hose and did not have great results it dose work with a normal hose more water flow
best regards :D
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what alexg is suggesting is having 2 seperate hoses, you can run 2 reels of microbore off 1 pump ut its better to use 2 pumps/2 pumps and 2 varistreams.