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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Ian Gourlay on August 15, 2006, 04:32:23 pm

Title: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: Ian Gourlay on August 15, 2006, 04:32:23 pm
I was just wondering is there a code of silence with Franchise companies.

Are they not allowed to post on Forums unless it is to plug the company when they are trying to recruit.

Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: jasonl on August 15, 2006, 04:34:54 pm
T hey have thier own secret boards,,,, anyone want a password, its funny to see them mock the independants in thier little old vans and terraced houses, we are all cowboys on the breadline.. its humourous to read.
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: Kev Loomes on August 15, 2006, 05:43:04 pm
I think what it is, is that they are aftraid of posting in case they get told off by their franchisor for saying the wrong thing or giving away their ideas :P

They may mock independents but secretly they wish they were. And believe you me, they are watching and reading - they like to pick up tips from the pro's as much as they can  ;D
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: brucie on August 15, 2006, 05:52:22 pm
Whats wrong with terraced houses?
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: Mike Halliday on August 15, 2006, 06:07:27 pm
that's where poor people live :D :D

I dream Of living in a terraced house, living in a shoebox at the moment :'( :'(

I would have thought the Master franchise owners must be worried about the freedom of information these boards bring,  they might tell their franchisers that we all live on the breadline but you only have to read these boards to realise their are a lot of independents earning big money without being tied to a contract

Mike
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on August 15, 2006, 06:13:42 pm
Has she chucked you out?

Shaun
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: craigp on August 15, 2006, 07:27:05 pm
i think its the francises that struggle and have been serverly squeezed by independent companies.

jason, were are there secret boards, expose them ;D
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: Mike Halliday on August 15, 2006, 07:35:14 pm
if you publish a password it will be just changed.

Shaun,  the house is in my name, if she does'nt cater for my every whim its she that gets kicked out ;)

mike
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: craigp on August 15, 2006, 08:50:31 pm
i don't want the pass word, weres the boards?
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: Ian Gourlay on August 15, 2006, 09:54:36 pm
When I belonged to another organization, some computer wiz captured the email adress of lots of the members.

Started a Forum.

For the first time we were able to compare our experiences


The company had a complete wobly, several  heads rolled .
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: John Kelly on August 16, 2006, 12:13:55 am
I think the Chem Dry, Rainbow and Servicemaster guys are too busy making money and running thier businesses to bother with forums.
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: craigp on August 16, 2006, 08:06:23 am
i met a guy that was ex employee of a franchise, he said they struggled in past 4 years and he said it was the 'private' companies as he put it that had taken so much of there work.

what makes you think they do so well John? its not the impression i get.
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: John Kelly on August 16, 2006, 08:23:24 am
I know quite a few of them and they have a far higher standard of living than I do.
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: jasonl on August 16, 2006, 08:27:48 am
I know a few, with everything on lease/finance, 200k plus mortgages, lost 90% of thier insurance work, flogging a dead horse.
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: calmore on August 16, 2006, 11:31:35 am
I have never really seen the point of a franchise, after all you are effectively just renting a company name.

Unfortunately, the British public generally aren't familiar with these names so I don't really see what the franchisee really stands to gain. I mean, how many members of the general public will have heard of 'Rainbow' or 'Chemdry' and know what they do?

Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: craigp on August 16, 2006, 02:28:00 pm
i know what your saying calmore, and i agree, but i dont know now because i think things are changing, but if you called you house insurers cus you spilt red wine on your sofa the insurers will call chemdry and the like because they are a national network, they have all this work to themselfs its high paid work and the insurance industry spend millions each year with frachisee's, oh not to mention the flood work, thats the main benefit of being a franchise.
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: bennymon on August 16, 2006, 03:01:56 pm
hi folks i used to be with chemdry the insurance work was good but only the flood work paid well after id done 6 months of flood work instead of jobs worth £2000 all the jobs were nearer £200 all the work was on a rota there was 8 of us in my area but i got the feeling homeserve were getting moore than most.they no longer want 1 man bands doing insurance work and said at a seminar they think every franchise should start to concentrate on carpet cleaning [ unheard of before ] i think the insurance is drying up  and as a carpet cleaner they offer me nothing .my experience with them was awfull and i will still be paying for it for the next 2 years i hope they  rot  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: calmore on August 16, 2006, 03:27:00 pm
I agree that with a franchise you will get most of the insurance jobs in your area. However, you probably won't get most of the normal cleaning jobs!

Two slightly different types of business aimed at two different niches of the same market.

Perhaps the NCCA need to market themselves to insurance companies, pointing out that their members offer a more flexible service at a more cost effective price?
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: craigp on August 16, 2006, 04:30:22 pm
yes we get most of the domestic privite work though ;)
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: John Kelly on August 16, 2006, 04:49:47 pm
Craig the bulk of the turnover of most of the big Chem Dry & Rainbow outfits is fire & flood restoration work. Some of these outfits have full time accountants. A flood job can be anything from a £50 call out to £10,000.
When Carlisle got flooded last year Chem Dry had 1100 flooded properties. One franchise dealt with over 300 of these. Even at £1,000 each thats a lot of money and some of them would have been well in excess of that amount. The franchise concerned is now building an industrial estate to rent out.
Different world from carpet cleaning.
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: jasonl on August 16, 2006, 04:58:28 pm
and he is also up to his neck in debt!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: John Kelly on August 16, 2006, 05:13:35 pm
Probably
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: jasonl on August 16, 2006, 05:20:17 pm
The guy in question lives a few doors from a colleague of mine at wynyard, it is reliable information. in carlisle, who did the police/magistrates/council /wickes and dfs trust to dry out thier buildings...... clue ..... not Chemdry, or any other franchise.
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: vangaurd on August 16, 2006, 05:41:35 pm
servicemaster franchise i know is only getting 1 job a day because technicians wont do leaflet drops because they are sick of being treat like children
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: Dennis on August 16, 2006, 05:56:23 pm
When I started with the CD franchise in 1990 (left 2001), independents were the spawn of the devil, to be avoided at all costs, far inferior to the wonderful CD.  ::)
As we all know we soak carpets, warp floors, fill the house with mould,  shrink carpets and dance naked in the woods at full moon (or is that last one just me?)  :P
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: Ian Gourlay on August 16, 2006, 06:44:53 pm
The guy in question lives a few doors from a colleague of mine at wynyard, it is reliable information. in carlisle, who did the police/magistrates/council /wickes and dfs trust to dry out thier buildings...... clue ..... not Chemdry, or any other franchise.

Was it Siccroco Services ??? ???

Jason I thought Heavens Best was a  Franchise
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: craigp on August 16, 2006, 06:48:41 pm
 lol;D ;D ;D

do CD have a high turnover of franchisee's? or is there success rate high with new starts?
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: Neil Grainger on August 16, 2006, 06:53:04 pm
Surley Cd have sold all the area's available in the country

do they move the area's available to fit more in or can you have as many as you want in any one area.

Cheers

Neil
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: jasonl on August 16, 2006, 06:58:48 pm
CD can sell one franchise per 60k population, they periodically review the population of any given area and thus allow themselves to sell more franchises, heavens best is indeed a franchise , run along VERY different lines to chem dry!
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: scimitar clean on August 17, 2006, 12:10:17 am
homeserve chemdry run company owned franchisees the boss i worked for sold his franchise back to head office. Belive me they the most unorganize company i every came
across so i left 2 months , set up my own carpet cleaning firm and not looked back.
chemdry charge a 70% mark up on all the carpet cleaning solutions that they  sell  to a franchise plus you have to spend a set amount each month per franchise licence area.
   
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: Buster Ingram on August 17, 2006, 12:13:02 am
Reading your post mate sounds like Dick Turpin's running Chem-Dry
I think next time someone mentions Chem-Dry to me I'll have to say "Don't you mean DICK TURPIN Madam"

Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: Len Gribble on August 17, 2006, 03:36:02 am
Reliably informed to fill a one of their porties with CD agents is £10 each (two solutions) wish I brought the master franchise and sold it. 8)

calmore

Re CD customers know this name; it’s down to branding Rainbow on the other hand a newbie to the cc world, SM fallen by the wayside, think M&S  still have the number under the cushion. ;D

Think the NCCA will have their hands full at this moment!  They are setting up a new (new!!!!!) standard sponsored by Rainbow. As a business person I can understand.

Ian ;D ;D



Len
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: PaulKing on August 17, 2006, 07:56:58 am
I dream Of living in a terraced house, living in a shoebox at the moment :'( :'(

Shoebox! Luxury!

I live in a pond!
Title: Re: Not Many Franchisees on here
Post by: bennymon on August 17, 2006, 12:21:21 pm
hi folks chemdry charge £275 pm franchise fee and you have to buy another £280ish of soulutions . the main soulution they use comes in 2 packets 1 goes in a tank one in b tank    price 10 packs of each  £210  what a con . im off with my £15 quid to get some crystal green  see u later ;)