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Title: brushes look gaz
Post by: edd on August 11, 2006, 05:51:44 pm
whos brushes last the longest????? ive just bought a vikan 11 inch 4 downstairs which seems 2 be exellent and 2 16 inch vikan for upstairs they are the dogs but very heavy the small vikan is 6 months old and still looks good
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: Jeff Brimble on August 11, 2006, 06:26:49 pm
Not trying to be funny but I suppose it depends on how often its used and whether you just do glass or include the frames, I would say that an average life was about 8-12 months.
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: edd on August 12, 2006, 01:03:44 am
well my ionics brushes last about a month which we think is rubbish so we are looking 4 something better any suggestions will be appreciated
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: JM123 on August 12, 2006, 01:13:51 am
cant go wrong with salmon or vikan - haven't got gazh2o's brushes yet but have heard they are brilliant
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: marc al on August 12, 2006, 09:18:27 am
  I use normal Addis plastic brush heads which I put my own jets into, they screw straight onto a pole end and come in a couple of different bristle types.
  These mostly last approx a month for the soft bristles upto several months for the hard bristles (ideal for facias and first cleans), the best bit is they are only 3-25 each from my local DIY centre.

  Marc
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: RO-Sheen on August 12, 2006, 09:25:09 am
I have Ionics brushes too and Im not happy with them either. The corners of them have lost their shape completely and are just a mush of hair which makes corners of frames and windows impossible to do.
I have recently bought a Vikam brush from Gardiner which so far is great. The only problem with it though is that there is a red rubber protector around the brush head and it can leave red 'skid marks' on the frames but the marks come off easily. I am now getting used to it and very rarily leave any marks on the frames now.
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: matt on August 12, 2006, 09:43:25 am
my Vikan is 2 yers old now ;) still looks great

though i do only work 3 days a week

Title: Re: brushes
Post by: Jeff Brimble on August 12, 2006, 09:55:30 am
Those black and white Addis bristled silver head brushes weigh 8oz are also in Co-op. B&Q 8.5oz brushes are fussy,only have weak grey bristles on the end. Tesco freeline 8.5 oz blue are flocked they have zero bristle angle on the top but have plenty of bristles. Vileda are too thin with long length bristles. The 8-12 month quote was for glass only.
Marc are you thro or over the head jets ?
Gargaax why not cut the rubber off completely.
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: neil100 on August 12, 2006, 09:59:12 am
Had a good laugh when my mate showed me his ioinics brush last night. What a state that looked after 3 months of use.

I use vikan and Gaza brushes. Vikan are great on a mini pole, they slaughter any snail trails and are great for scrubbing.

Gaza brushes are great for upstairs are not great on first cleans, its probably down to them not having loads of bristles, so they are not as good for scrubbing the glass but they are great for rinseing as they glide along the glass.

The tucker brush is highly recommended though I have never used it personally.

Nel.
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: H h20 on August 12, 2006, 10:06:19 am
Hi Neil,my brushes have more bristles now and i use them on upvc cleans they get some real battering,my best brush has to be the swivel brush i use it all day and could`nt work without it  ;D,Gaz
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: Jeff Brimble on August 12, 2006, 10:07:58 am
Tucker double trim and their copies are excellent if you have plenty of pole pressure but the bristles do not flex much and stand off the glass like a wire brush effect. I found them too heavy but you could shave off a few oz.
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: Jeff Brimble on August 12, 2006, 10:10:47 am
I agree Gaz, all brushes should be multi angle, how some of you work with totally fixed heads on goose necks is beyong me. But I suppose if you havent tried an alternative you think its the bees knees
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: H h20 on August 12, 2006, 10:26:34 am
I agree Gaz, all brushes should be multi angle, how some of you work with totally fixed heads on goose necks is beyong me. But I suppose if you havent tried an alternative you think its the bees knees
Heres an example of how the swivel brush works well,cleaning over roofs,buildings,cars in the way etc could`nt be easier  :D ,and if you are restricted for space you don`t have to stand directley unerneath and get soaked, ;D,Gaz
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: chris@c.m.s on August 12, 2006, 10:58:23 am
Mind that vent, its about time I had one of those I think. if that is a gardener pole how have you connected the brush Gaz? 
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: H h20 on August 12, 2006, 10:59:54 am
Mind that vent, its about time I had one of those I think. 
Hi Chris,thats the beauty of it you can control the brush and keep it straight to keep clear of the vent,Gaz
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: neil100 on August 12, 2006, 11:20:46 am
How does the angle adapter work?

What I mean is do you set the angle of the brush before you put the pole up? So its fixed in that positon. Or does it swival into position as you use it. If it swivels does the  brush head go all floppy when you take it off the glass.


 Gaz can you post a close up photo of the new brushes with more bristles. I still have your phone no so I may give the newer brush a go, or even the swivel. I am well pleased with your brushes though, All the best.

Nel.
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: Jeff Brimble on August 12, 2006, 11:22:20 am
You can make any brush swivel with a piece of dowel and an Unger elbow, there are 2 ways of doing it. Will try to knock one up over the weekend and post pic, not sure as its diy whether it should go on Matts site, if Express do one ?  
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: H h20 on August 12, 2006, 01:47:52 pm
Neil,the way it works is you adjust your adjustable gooseneck to set the up or down angle depending how far or near you are working,then when you put the brush on the glass it moves freely left and right,it`s not that loose that it just flops it does has a bit of stiffness to keep it straight but you can also lock it so it can be used in a straight fixed position,
heres a picture of one and of  a brush with more bristles than before,Gaz
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: jouk45 on August 12, 2006, 02:38:35 pm
 Gaz Hh20,  they look much better than the last brushes  bristles, great picture to, why have you went back to your old name again lol
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: H h20 on August 12, 2006, 02:47:10 pm
Gaz Hh20,  they look much better than the last brushes  bristles, great picture to, why have you went back to your old name again lol
Jouk,i have`nt changed my name,i lost my avatar pic some how thats all  ???,Gaz
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: david wood on August 12, 2006, 03:05:34 pm
i wouldnt use any other brush now than the one of gaz never seen a spot since i used this brush. and there so much lighter aswell
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: neil100 on August 12, 2006, 03:10:57 pm
Sorry to be pickey Gaz, but could you show me a pic of the old brush and new brush together with the bristles taken out as you jet them up, I want the photo to show me the bristles square on as though I was looking through the glass as the brush is cleaning the window, I will be able to see the jets.

Nel.
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: H h20 on August 12, 2006, 03:33:14 pm
Sorry to be pickey Gaz, but could you show me a pic of the old brush and new brush together with the bristles taken out as you jet them up, I want the photo to show me the bristles square on as though I was looking through the glass as the brush is cleaning the window, I will be able to see the jets.

Nel.
Hi Neil,im sorry but i don`t have any pictures of the brushes with less bristles  :( ,but you are more than welcome to phone me if you still have my number,Gaz
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: windowcleanomano on August 12, 2006, 04:02:54 pm
Hi Gaz

I use your brushes and think they are the best things I’ve added to my set up.

I have your Light Blue & Green Bristle Brushes (green has more bristles than blue) and wondered dose the New Blue & Yellow ones have EVEN MORE bristles than the Green Brush I have?

Thanks
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: H h20 on August 12, 2006, 04:10:36 pm
Hi Gaz

I use your brushes and think they are the best things I’ve added to my set up.

I have your Light Blue & Green Bristle Brushes (green has more bristles than blue) and wondered dose the New Blue & Yellow ones have EVEN MORE bristles than the Green Brush I have?

Thanks
The brushes you have are the latest,for some reason they use to come with less bristles,i think it is something to do with the machine that fits them,
Gaz
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: Jeff Brimble on August 12, 2006, 04:45:06 pm
Hi Gaz I think you gave us a weight of 8.5 oz for your brushes have you weighed the lightest of the new ones ?
Have you tried to lighten them by surforming/filing off some of the excess ?
 I know its not easily duplicatable. ::)
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: jouk45 on August 12, 2006, 05:35:54 pm
theirs definitly more bristle on them, stand out a mile, ;D
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: Jeff Brimble on August 12, 2006, 06:35:08 pm
Swivel brushes.
Left take a 4"-6" top piece off a no2 unger. Fit a tapered dowel into the base end and then screw fit the taper into the brush. Put the swection onto the unger elbow and adjust the torgue collar to just allow it to swivel on the Elbow arm, or it can be torqued up so that it doesnt swivel. This also allows a bit of play for extending slightly over sills etc. The "secret" is that there has to be a slight or obtuse angle to make the swivel work ie it will not work on a straight pole.
(http://img205.i.us/img205/3425/p1010001tl1.th.jpg) (http://img205.i.us/my.php?image=p1010001tl1.jpg)
Next brush right in pic.
This is the cheap way of doing it. Get a small dia. piece of dowel that will fit inside an unger elbow joint. Wrap some pvc tape around the end until it "bites" into the thread of the brush stock,fit and screw home. Measure down the dowel so that the length goes inside the elbow to the bottom and cut this length to allow the dowel to hit home inside the elbow. Again wrap enough tape round the shank until it grips inside the elbow. This will allow the brush to spin inside the elbow if you exert pressure from the base of the pole with a twisting movement of your wrist.
Next brush right is a lightened Addis with a piece of plastic manifold to accept jets.
Last 2 brushes are my own swivel ones complete with a torque collar, one of them has Peters Autobrush fitted.
Or you could buy one of Gaz's swivel brushes.
I will post this on Matts site and jouks new forum so anyone can find it.
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: JM123 on August 13, 2006, 08:12:08 pm
Hi GazH2o am I getting the new brushes or the old ones?  I can't even remember what brushes I ordered!!!  I'll have to check my e-mail box to see what I ordered off you.
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: edd on August 14, 2006, 10:05:03 pm
hi Gaz hh20 how much are your brushes plz ? Edd
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: edd on August 18, 2006, 09:41:58 pm
are u telling me that an ionics brush lasted a year when we can get only 4/5 weeks MAX out of them. then i want to see a pic of them as ours are totally fubared after the month is up EDD!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o ;D
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: H h20 on August 18, 2006, 10:16:18 pm
hi Gaz hh20 how much are your brushes plz ? Edd
Hi v8edd,sorry iv`e only just noticed your question,can you give me an email,Gaz  ;)
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: edd on August 18, 2006, 10:35:05 pm
pam_2k@hotmail.co.uk from v8edd sorry its hers
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: H h20 on August 19, 2006, 01:17:24 pm
pam_2k@hotmail.co.uk from v8edd sorry its hers
Edd,this email didn`t work,Gaz
Title: Re: brushes
Post by: edd on August 25, 2006, 08:54:42 pm
sorry  gaz its pam-2k@hotmail.com