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Title: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Customers4u on August 11, 2006, 12:51:15 pm
Hi all, due to a high amount of orders, Doorknockers require additional sales staff, wherever you are based in the U.K.

Typical earnings for sales staff £500-£1,000 per week for 4 hours work per day, call paul bass on

07862 271852   ;D
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Fast 1 * on August 11, 2006, 05:17:00 pm
£1000 a week for 4 hours a day?
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: andypandy on August 12, 2006, 01:49:02 pm
PAUL STOP RIPPING PEOPLE OFF , YOU WILL GET CAUGHT IN THE END.
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Paul Coleman on August 12, 2006, 02:40:41 pm
PAUL STOP RIPPING PEOPLE OFF , YOU WILL GET CAUGHT IN THE END.
Perhaps you would like to elaborate?
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Customers4u on August 12, 2006, 09:37:23 pm
Who the heck is this Andy Pandy Bloke anyway??

I get the feeling that he is really a 10 year old, with some of the things he posts on this forum, or am i running down 10 year olds?!? i really dont know.

Anyway its after 9.00pm so i shouldnt get a reply till tomorrow.

'Doorknockers' might be ripping people off if we charged x4 or x5 but we are actually only charging x2! and window cleaners have been known to sell the work on that they have bought from me at x4!

Or they have found a w/c to operate the round, while they are sitting back earning a nice monthly income for the work that 'Doorknockers' have got for them.

Hiya Fast one, yes my staff can earn £500 per week if they are a canvasser and up to £1,000 per week if they are a team leader as i beleive in attracting decent salespeople and i like to pay my staff well to ensure good results.

Most window cleaners on this forum should be earning between these figures, and the ones that arent must be charging low amounts, which is probably more to do with their area.

Paul   ::)
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: M4RK on August 12, 2006, 10:35:16 pm
I've been dealing with doorknockers for a few months now and I don't feel ripped off.

Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Paul Coleman on August 13, 2006, 11:41:29 am
Who the heck is this Andy Pandy Bloke anyway??

I get the feeling that he is really a 10 year old, with some of the things he posts on this forum, or am i running down 10 year olds?!? i really dont know.

Anyway its after 9.00pm so i shouldnt get a reply till tomorrow.

'Doorknockers' might be ripping people off if we charged x4 or x5 but we are actually only charging x2! and window cleaners have been known to sell the work on that they have bought from me at x4!

Or they have found a w/c to operate the round, while they are sitting back earning a nice monthly income for the work that 'Doorknockers' have got for them.

Hiya Fast one, yes my staff can earn £500 per week if they are a canvasser and up to £1,000 per week if they are a team leader as i beleive in attracting decent salespeople and i like to pay my staff well to ensure good results.

Most window cleaners on this forum should be earning between these figures, and the ones that arent must be charging low amounts, which is probably more to do with their area.

Paul   ::)

For what it's worth Paul, most (though not all) of the feedback I've seen about you on here has been very good.  No business can be all things to all people and I'm sure that a few of my own customers have a grumble sometimes.
HOWEVER, not always being able to supply exactly what everyone wants all the time is a far cry from ripping someone off.  The former is falling short of an expected standard (not sure if this could be because some peoples' expectations are a bit high) whereas the latter is downright theft and lies.  If you were a thief or a liar I'm sure we would have been hearing about it on here long before now.
For the record, I think Andy Pandy was a friend of Looby Loo and Teddy   ;D
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Fast 1 * on August 13, 2006, 01:42:04 pm
Hi all, due to a high amount of orders, Doorknockers require additional sales staff, wherever you are based in the U.K.

Typical earnings for sales staff £500-£1,000 per week for 4 hours work per day, call paul bass on

07862 271852   ;D
How does it work?
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: reah on August 13, 2006, 04:37:34 pm
Hey
You say 4 hours a day but what distance is the canvaser expected to travel as it must be pretty quick  to  canvas an area.
Do you pay petrol money uniform .
Thanks reah.
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Paul Coleman on August 13, 2006, 09:06:46 pm
impossible doorknockers should be reported
You are slinging mud without saying what the specific problem is.  If you want to make an allegation against them, don't you think it would be fairer to be specific so that Paul Bass could answer your allegation(s).  Far from making him or his company look bad, you are just making yourself appear to be suffering from sour grapes.
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Fast 1 * on August 13, 2006, 09:24:11 pm
Please reply andy pandy this forum needs livening up a bit
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on August 14, 2006, 08:20:42 am
doorknockers...........

i would'nt take much heed in what andy pandy says as he builds rounds to value of £500 then tries to sell them on this forum for £50?

say no more, i think you know where i'm coming from!!!
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Moderator David@stives on August 14, 2006, 04:42:03 pm
Andy Pandy is in a similar business, but i think he dabbles in buying and selling rounds.

As for doorknocking i know a guy local to me, he has just doorknocked for 3 days solid, he ended up with £120 of work, which included £60 of some moaning buggers i had dropped a couple of months ago, the other £70 was probably some other window cleaners dropped moaning buggers.

I do envy you people who buy a doorknocked round, you must have nerves of steel
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Fast 1 * on August 14, 2006, 04:49:14 pm
Yes but dave,you get people that genuinely have had enough of their window cleaner,plus people that have just moved into the area,plus their are times when a window cleaner lets work go.There are opportunities out there.Ive got some cracking customers,who would be gutted if i stopped coming round.Its not all bad dave
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Moderator David@stives on August 14, 2006, 04:56:47 pm
I suppose so, I just look at it from my side, It took me a long time to mould my round into shape , and now it is mostly cream, I would hate to start again sifting through hundreds of customers to find the best ones again.

Dave
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Fast 1 * on August 14, 2006, 05:02:02 pm
I see what you mean.I cant wait to get to that stage.I can see that creating a really good round takes time and hard work.
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: holland1945 on August 14, 2006, 05:21:01 pm
Hi Dave, I can see the logic in what you posted earlier (your comments are certainly more balanced and logical than AndyPandy's unsubstantiated, infantile mudslinging).

But I can tell you from experience that having a doorknocked round does not require nerves of steel.

About 90% of my customers were brought on by Paul and the Doorknocker's team, and only a tiny tiny amount are of the 'moansome' variety. Most were customers whose previous window cleaner had vanished into thin air without so much as a Thank You or attempt to sell the work on.

ALL of my customers are good payers and I have a nice rapport developing with them already. I know that some people think it's harder to build a relationship with a customer if you didn't 'win' them, but I don't subscribe to that view. Okay, maybe it takes a couple of cleans more to start breaking the ice, but in that warming-up period, none of the customers drop out - so in the long run it really doesn't make any difference.

I don;t want to sound like a Doorknocker zealot, but if you don't have the time or inclination to canvas yourself, and don't want the scattered results of leafletting, using Paul and his team is an excellent option.
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: AuRavelling79 on August 14, 2006, 10:26:06 pm
As for doorknocking i know a guy local to me, he has just doorknocked for 3 days solid, he ended up with £120 of work, which included £60 of some moaning buggers i had dropped a couple of months ago, the other £70 was probably some other window cleaners dropped moaning buggers.

I do envy you people who buy a doorknocked round, you must have nerves of steel

When i went to school Dave, £60 plus £70 = £130 - not £120! ;D
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Allways Cleaning on August 14, 2006, 11:26:11 pm
was it a posh schol
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: AuRavelling79 on August 14, 2006, 11:28:16 pm
was it a posh schol

No but it was "approved"!
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Allways Cleaning on August 14, 2006, 11:31:57 pm
by the secretary of state
safe contractor approved then
 :o
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Trevor Knight on August 16, 2006, 06:39:25 am
In view of the fact that AndyPandy decided not to reply and his postings were not of great value I have tidied up this posting.

Regards,

Trev
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Customers4u on August 18, 2006, 12:02:34 pm
I have not read this thread as i have been away all week building a round in Middlesborough,
But anyone who would like to know more my website is at this address http://www.doorknockers-gb.com or contact me at paulbass63@yahoo.com or my moby is 07862 271852.

Thanks to mark h and Rik who are long term business associates for inputting to this thread, this forum is a great forum but i suppose no forum can ever be free of certain idiots who only seem to be members to just have a dig for no apparent reason.

I dont mind being slated if i deserve to be slated, but Andypandy does'nt know me, nor i him, and he has'nt come back with any evidence of inpropriety, though i look forward to any he can provide!

Still recruiting for additional staff by the way!!  lol

Paul  :)
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Ian Gourlay on August 21, 2006, 08:57:47 am
In an Ideal; World Mr Bass would be teaching Forum Members how to canvas.

This is meant to be a Free Resource.


It looks to me that Mr Bass uses the Forum to promote his own profitable business with no advertising cost.

I might be wrong and Paul might have supplied step by step instructions on how to Canvas for best results.

Then those who feel they do not want to Canvas or are not cut out for it could contact his company to help them.
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Customers4u on August 21, 2006, 11:43:19 am
I have posted many times on this forum Ian, giving any help and advice, and members are free to e-mail me if required.

Just tap in Doorknockers on the search facility.

We realise that the majority of members are able to do their own canvassing and we sincerely wish the members all the success in the world if they choose
this route.

However for the window cleaners who would like to develop their rounds quickly and with the minimum fuss, and priced correctly with full customer details, 'Doorknockers' are an alternative route that they can take.

Paul
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: bakerboy on August 21, 2006, 11:50:23 am
GIVE US ALL A BREAK PAUL
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: M4RK on August 21, 2006, 12:51:55 pm
I don't see what is wrong with advertising on the forum.

Its a risk for someone advertising because people will air good as well as bad views.

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It looks to me that Mr Bass uses the Forum to promote his own profitable business with no advertising cost.

I might be wrong and Paul might have supplied step by step instructions on how to Canvas for best results.

Then those who feel they do not want to Canvas or are not cut out for it could contact his company to help them.

Try looking here:

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5857.0#msg44808

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7146.0#msg52857

That looks to me like that "Mr Bass" has done that.

The other good thing about this forum is that you can see what kind of people you are dealing with before you decide to buy work from them,

Isn't that right Andy Pandy, I mean Bakerboy, I mean Martin?

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=22205.0#msg168506

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10580.0



 
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Ian Gourlay on August 21, 2006, 01:25:08 pm
Has no one asked for help on Canvassing since 2005  ???

Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: M4RK on August 21, 2006, 01:40:34 pm
 

  ;D

Obviously they are not here on this forum to give canvassing instructions to everyone who raises a question!

I'm merely pointing out that they have at times given out helpful instructions .


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I might be wrong and Paul might have supplied step by step instructions on how to Canvas for best results.

:)

 
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Ian Gourlay on August 21, 2006, 07:45:22 pm
Ok  I have made a point.

I have just read that Paul started by putting a post on this Forum about Doorknockers on this Forum and went on from there.


Well done.

Many people do not like canvassing, I just hope they will receive help and advise when they need it
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: ducky on August 21, 2006, 08:11:22 pm
bakerboy or andypandy put up or shut up.fill ur profile in let me see wher u come from if u slaged me of the way u do with paul at doorknockers i would give u a slap. >:(. maybe if u shut up in the first place instead of open ur mouth and let ur belly rumble paul would have gave u tips how to build ur company to a good one like his.doorknockers have got a web site they have got a team of staff.what have u got but two or three names.i think ur a twat and i dont no u i think u should be banned from this site.prove me wrong tell us what doorknockers have done.
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: premclean on August 21, 2006, 08:20:58 pm
well said get rid of the poopstirring muppet.All Andypandys post have been negative drivel, Paul Bass i wouldnt worry mate i think Andypandy is jealous of your success and would love to be you, however hes fallen somewhat short. 
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Fast 1 * on August 21, 2006, 08:47:12 pm
I have posted many times on this forum Ian, giving any help and advice, and members are free to e-mail me if required.

Just tap in Doorknockers on the search facility.

We realise that the majority of members are able to do their own canvassing and we sincerely wish the members all the success in the world if they choose
this route.

However for the window cleaners who would like to develop their rounds quickly and with the minimum fuss, and priced correctly with fukll customer details, 'Doorknockers' are an alternative route that they can take.

Paul
And priced correctly with fukll customer details? ;D
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: supernova77 on August 22, 2006, 09:17:25 am
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Isn't that right Andy Pandy, I mean Bakerboy, I mean Martin?

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=22205.0#msg168506

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10580.0

LOL - Poor old andypandy / bakerboy / martin isn't the sharpest tool in the box is he?  ;)

Although I have never used doorknockers I personally think that they look like a good professional company, and they offer a valuable service to people who might need to build up a round quickly... So whats wrong with them advertising / posting on this forum?

It's a shame that a few fellow posters get jealous about other posters businesses, but I suppose thats life.

Andy
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Customers4u on August 22, 2006, 11:15:55 am
Anyways!?!

I,m still looking for staff, as we have become very busy, because all this (bad?) publicity has made 'doorknockers' ever busier!

I can then spend more time, giving help and advice on subjects related to canvassing on forums such as 'cleanitup' rather than shooting off all over the country.

At least this thread has pointed out that Andypandy takes up many guises on this forum, bakerboy and martin are 2 others he is known by apparently.


Wonder why he needs so many aliases??

Paul   :)

P.s. on a serious note, if you would like to know anything about canvassing, my e-mail is paulbass63@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: williamx on August 22, 2006, 02:22:00 pm
 "andypandy" seems to be in the business of buying and selling window cleaning rounds, this I have no problem with, but surly its is illegal for someone to sell the same round over and over again, especially when they state that they have operated them for the last 3-5 years.
 
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Majestic on August 22, 2006, 05:34:38 pm
We are all here to make a living by doing what we do best.
 For me when I started out and went out canvasing myself I hated it. I wish Paul had been around then.
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: BIRMINGHAM on September 03, 2006, 02:59:15 am
are you a limited company ???
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: david68 on September 04, 2006, 10:08:38 pm
Hi Doorknockers

I have tried canvassing and leaflet drops but with not much responce.

Money is also tight at the moment, So is there a minium price of round.

Meaning if i was to spend £1000 with you would u be willing to get me £500 pounds worth of work?

Dave
Title: Re: Team leaders and salespeople required
Post by: Customers4u on September 14, 2006, 11:36:00 am
Hiya Dave, £300 per month is our minimum spend, so £600 at x2, plus any distance from our base, which is Cambridge, sorry about the delay in responding, have been away!

Paul