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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: zesty on November 21, 2025, 12:11:15 pm
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How’s the range in these cold temps, how’s it all going?
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My first month with a Toyota pro ace city ev
180 range, halve that for winter and weight so 90 miles maybe.
I average 40 miles a day.
Used to allow £50 a week for fuel and it averaged out at £36.
This is my cost for November.
So impressed.
If you can make it work, do it.
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Not bad, but the range is pretty pants on the van front.
We have a Kia EV3 which has been flawless and well impressive. But being a car, and with an 82kwh battery, it’s plenty good enough on range in the winter. We only charge it once a week - £11.58 so far this month.
My concern with the vans is having to charge it almost every night in the winter which will shorten the battery life. I might be overthinking it though! Are you running it with the heating on etc?
Think I’ll aim for the e transit custom in spring next year.
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What size tank have you got in your proace city and how is it secured?
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Not bad, but the range is pretty pants on the van front.
We have a Kia EV3 which has been flawless and well impressive. But being a car, and with an 82kwh battery, it’s plenty good enough on range in the winter. We only charge it once a week - £11.58 so far this month.
My concern with the vans is having to charge it almost every night in the winter which will shorten the battery life. I might be overthinking it though! Are you running it with the heating on etc?
Think I’ll aim for the e transit custom in spring next year.
Not bad! It’s a 80% saving on fuel. Although I’m sure our Rachel will make changes next week.
Mine was 18 months old with the 8 year battery warranty (10 years on the van with breakdown cover if serviced by Toyota) 35k plus vat new and I paid just under 15k. I got 11k for a 7 year old caddy.
I charge 4/5 times a week to 80% and I run in drive so everything works. The heater doesn’t work in eco mode.
It is a massive change as our vans are our income so I understand the overthinking.
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What size tank have you got in your proace city and how is it secured?
350 and it’s strapped.
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Depreciation values and second hand ownership running costs would put me off. Thankfully I'm semi retired and won't need to worry about EV's going forward in my lifetime.
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Depreciation values and second hand ownership running costs would put me off. Thankfully I'm semi retired and won't need to worry about EV's going forward in my lifetime.
Depreciation is a positive if you buy a used ev.
Also in theory there is less to go wrong, no dpf and egr valves or add blu to worry about.
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Depreciation values and second hand ownership running costs would put me off. Thankfully I'm semi retired and won't need to worry about EV's going forward in my lifetime.
Depreciation is a positive if you buy a used ev.
Also in theory there is less to go wrong, no dpf and egr valves or add blu to worry about.
Yes, maintenance is the biggest benefit, or lack of!
That’s the biggest pull factor for me. A van that has almost nothing to do wrong, starts every time, even in minus degrees (my transit custom struggles in winter to turn over, needs new glow plugs but comes with massive risks changing them, they often get stuck)
Fuel savings, obviously a no brainier.
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Depreciation values and second hand ownership running costs would put me off. Thankfully I'm semi retired and won't need to worry about EV's going forward in my lifetime.
Depreciation is a positive if you buy a used ev.
Also in theory there is less to go wrong, no dpf and egr valves or add blu to worry about.
Yep. A one year old EV with 7-9 years battery warranty makes a lot of sense.
My 12 plate diesel Hyundai on 86,000 from new will hopefully see me out as I wind down from 2.2k monthly turnover (3.5k last year) to £1200 over the next two years.
But if I had at least five years to go and my van needed replacing then I would definitely consider electric. A lot has changed in EV world over the last 18 months.
On the car front I run a 19 year old VW Touran on 153k! But considering electric to replace that.
One possible is (if alive and kicking) is in two years time - convert the van into a day camper/dog mobile (with a 210L Wyedale tank that can be slid in on a day a week for a few cream jobs) and replace car with electric.
We shall see.
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Vivaro e -
Has a 205 mile range. Driving normally when it’s dry and warm can get easily 180-190 and thats including lugging 500 litres in the morning.
Last couple of days it’s been minus 5. Hard to be exact but I would say it’s probably doing around 150. That’s with being frugal with the heater as that can have a big impact on the range. The heated seat doesn’t use anything off the range so have had that on full time.
I’m charging pretty much every night at home.
As long as you are using the charged up battery pretty much straight away then it’s fine to keep charging it up to 80/100%. Charge it to what you need. I don’t even think about anymore.
There’s an 8 year /100,000 mile warranty on the battery so that to me shows confidence by the manufacturers. I may be wrong only time will tell.
So far then I’ve done just over 5000 miles in this van and it’s been faultless.
I do 80-90 miles a day and it’s costing me less than a fiver.
Drives really nice. Pulls the weight easily.
And an added bonus is using the cab pre-conditioning in the morning. Totally de-iced and toasty warm when you get in it.
If you can charge at home and do less than 100 miles a day then it really is a no brainer.
There is of course a caveat. Will the extra charge of 3p per mile for ev drivers come in?
If it doesn’t then that has to be factored in.
Won’t make too much difference to me to be honest.
Any questions feel free
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Correction - If it ‘does’ come in
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Correction - If it ‘does’ come in
3 p a mile at 10,000 is £300 a year. Still well in.
I think she will make the road fund license £1,000 as it will be easier for them to manage.
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Depreciation values and second hand ownership running costs would put me off. Thankfully I'm semi retired and won't need to worry about EV's going forward in my lifetime.
Depreciation is a positive if you buy a used ev.
Also in theory there is less to go wrong, no dpf and egr valves or add blu to worry about.
Yes, maintenance is the biggest benefit, or lack of!
That’s the biggest pull factor for me. A van that has almost nothing to do wrong, starts every time, even in minus degrees (my transit custom struggles in winter to turn over, needs new glow plugs but comes with massive risks changing them, they often get stuck)
Fuel savings, obviously a no brainier.
Last time I had glow plugs changed on 20 year old dispatch the garage sprayed one of the plugs (with some sort of anti corrosive spray to free it up), left it overnight and was able to safely remove it in the morning.
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New pay per mile at 3 pence on cars.
BUT .... vans not to be charged.
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I didn’t know vans wouldn’t be charged. Must have missed the small print 👍
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New pay per mile at 3 pence on cars.
BUT .... vans not to be charged.
Source?
Is true, just checked online, however, seems it’ll only be for a a few years max.
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It's been pretty obvious from the outset where this will end. There will never be any cheap motoring.... apart from brief transition periods- designed to get you onboard!
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It's obvious that electric vehicles would be subject to road tax eventually (as more people are forced to buy them). Its not a surprise. I don't know how the per mile charging will work though. Its probably better to just have an annual one off payment.
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It's obvious that electric vehicles would be subject to road tax eventually (as more people are forced to buy them). Its not a surprise. I don't know how the per mile charging will work though. Its probably better to just have an annual one off payment.
Guess it will be linked to the mot test and you then get a bill from DVLA ? , but that could only happen when the vehicle is 3 years old so who knows 😂
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Several countries charge a per-mile or per-kilometer fee, particularly for heavy vehicles, including Germany, Austria, Switzerland, New Zealand, and the Czech Republic. The UK is also planning to introduce a mileage-based tax for electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles starting in April 2028. Many countries, however, measure mileage-based fees in kilometers rather than miles.
This could turn out a money spinner in the future for the UK Gov. They have nibbled around the edges with congestion charge but the gold mine will come from pay per mile. I think there is nearly 43 million vehicles in the UK and if they can get even half of them on the pay per mile then they will milk it for all its worth. If you look back at fuel duty, it is now nearly 70% of the cost per litre. Diesel and petrol is cheap as chips if we remove the duty and vat then a litre of petrol would be around 75p.
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Seriously considering pulling the trigger on an E Custom Sport. I’ve emailed the dealer to get dimensions of battery pack underneath cargo area, hoping against hope that my cage will straddle the battery pack. If this isn’t doable is there anyway to strengthen lashing points and use ratchet straps? My concern is that it’s an upright 500 litre tank so probably not the ideal shape for using ratchet straps.
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Seriously considering pulling the trigger on an E Custom Sport. I’ve emailed the dealer to get dimensions of battery pack underneath cargo area, hoping against hope that my cage will straddle the battery pack. If this isn’t doable is there anyway to strengthen lashing points and use ratchet straps? My concern is that it’s an upright 500 litre tank so probably not the ideal shape for using ratchet straps.
You could just get a different tank of go for a custom built tank. Compared to cost of van should be a relatively small expense.
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Seriously considering pulling the trigger on an E Custom Sport. I’ve emailed the dealer to get dimensions of battery pack underneath cargo area, hoping against hope that my cage will straddle the battery pack. If this isn’t doable is there anyway to strengthen lashing points and use ratchet straps? My concern is that it’s an upright 500 litre tank so probably not the ideal shape for using ratchet straps.
You could just get a different tank of go for a custom built tank. Compared to cost of van should be a relatively small expense.
That’s an option yes. My current tank has an immersion fitted and also has a 1 1/2” outlet/tap for fast filling a backpack
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If it’s possible then your best bet is to go and look at one and take your tape measure with you. Get underneath it and you will be able to see if there’s enough room to straddle the traction battery. That’s what I did with the Vivaro. Soon as I looked underneath I could see there was more than enough room. The tape measure confirmed it.
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I looked at the rescue card ages ago:
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/Catalog/service_tip_files/Ford_Transit_Custom_Van_2025_5d_Electric_EN.pdf
Shows you all the dimensions of the battery and motor etc.
I’ve decided when I get one, I’ll be using the lashing points and a flag tank.
The battery goes as far as back as the side load door. So not good for tanks being bolted down. You’d have to faff about dropping the battery.
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I looked at the rescue card ages ago:
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/Catalog/service_tip_files/Ford_Transit_Custom_Van_2025_5d_Electric_EN.pdf
Shows you all the dimensions of the battery and motor etc.
I’ve decided when I get one, I’ll be using the lashing points and a flag tank.
The battery goes as far as back as the side load door. So not good for tanks being bolted down. You’d have to faff about dropping the battery.
That’s good info Zesty cheers. From that it looks like flat tank ratchet strapped is gonna be the only way to go. Do you reckon the lashing points will need to be reinforced for a flat tank?
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My customer has just bought a 2 year old EV Porsche he was saying it's great because all the depreciation has happened. Cleaning his windows last week and he said a motor went in it but its under warranty. Once fixed he is trading it in for a petrol Porsche, seems he has went from gladness to sadness on EV's now.
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My customer has just bought a 2 year old EV Porsche he was saying it's great because all the depreciation has happened. Cleaning his windows last week and he said a motor went in it but its under warranty. Once fixed he is trading it in for a petrol Porsche, seems he has went from gladness to sadness on EV's now.
If he thinks all the depreciation has happened he’s in for a nasty shock when he comes to trade it in!
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I looked at the rescue card ages ago:
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/Catalog/service_tip_files/Ford_Transit_Custom_Van_2025_5d_Electric_EN.pdf
Shows you all the dimensions of the battery and motor etc.
I’ve decided when I get one, I’ll be using the lashing points and a flag tank.
The battery goes as far as back as the side load door. So not good for tanks being bolted down. You’d have to faff about dropping the battery.
That’s good info Zesty cheers. From that it looks like flat tank ratchet strapped is gonna be the only way to go. Do you reckon the lashing points will need to be reinforced for a flat tank?
My plan is to use the lashing points and glue down (yes I know it sounds mad) the tank with tonnes of adhesive foam or Stixall etc. these modern adhesives are unbelievably strong, like seriously strong. I’d prime the floor for better adhesion. With a flat tank, lashed down and glued, it won’t go anywhere.
Hoping to get the e custom sport in spring. Just hanging on until they come done to 20k plus vat second hand.
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I looked at the rescue card ages ago:
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/Catalog/service_tip_files/Ford_Transit_Custom_Van_2025_5d_Electric_EN.pdf
Shows you all the dimensions of the battery and motor etc.
I’ve decided when I get one, I’ll be using the lashing points and a flag tank.
The battery goes as far as back as the side load door. So not good for tanks being bolted down. You’d have to faff about dropping the battery.
That’s good info Zesty cheers. From that it looks like flat tank ratchet strapped is gonna be the only way to go. Do you reckon the lashing points will need to be reinforced for a flat tank?
My plan is to use the lashing points and glue down (yes I know it sounds mad) the tank with tonnes of adhesive foam or Stixall etc. these modern adhesives are unbelievably strong, like seriously strong. I’d prime the floor for better adhesion. With a flat tank, lashed down and glued, it won’t go anywhere.
Hoping to get the e custom sport in spring. Just hanging on until they come done to 20k plus vat second hand.
Aye that makes sense. It would be more tax efficient for me to get one this financial year, the one I’ve enquired about is 1 year old. I had looked at new but you have to be VAT registered to get one at the advertised price, if you’re not VAT registered the price rises significantly. So the reality is I can get a 1 year old van with under 2000 miles for £12K less than a new one. The drawback is having to use ratchet straps and buying a new flat tank and fittings along with fitting an immersion element.
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I looked at the rescue card ages ago:
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/Catalog/service_tip_files/Ford_Transit_Custom_Van_2025_5d_Electric_EN.pdf
Shows you all the dimensions of the battery and motor etc.
I’ve decided when I get one, I’ll be using the lashing points and a flag tank.
The battery goes as far as back as the side load door. So not good for tanks being bolted down. You’d have to faff about dropping the battery.
That’s good info Zesty cheers. From that it looks like flat tank ratchet strapped is gonna be the only way to go. Do you reckon the lashing points will need to be reinforced for a flat tank?
My plan is to use the lashing points and glue down (yes I know it sounds mad) the tank with tonnes of adhesive foam or Stixall etc. these modern adhesives are unbelievably strong, like seriously strong. I’d prime the floor for better adhesion. With a flat tank, lashed down and glued, it won’t go anywhere.
Hoping to get the e custom sport in spring. Just hanging on until they come done to 20k plus vat second hand.
Aye that makes sense. It would be more tax efficient for me to get one this financial year, the one I’ve enquired about is 1 year old. I had looked at new but you have to be VAT registered to get one at the advertised price, if you’re not VAT registered the price rises significantly. So the reality is I can get a 1 year old van with under 2000 miles for £12K less than a new one. The drawback is having to use ratchet straps and buying a new flat tank and fittings along with fitting an immersion element.
I don’t think it’ll be too big a deal, you’re gonna have to transport the tank onto the new van anyway, may as well get a new tank anyhow!
Yeah I had the same problem, it’s only VAT reg businesses that get the great deal.
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Anyone on here interested in a 2019 Custom Sport Auto, 24 000 miles, FSH, 500 litre tank and frame with immersion?😁
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Anyone on here interested in a 2019 Custom Sport Auto, 24 000 miles, FSH, 500 litre tank and frame with immersion?😁
Why not keep it especially with that mileage .
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Anyone on here interested in a 2019 Custom Sport Auto, 24 000 miles, FSH, 500 litre tank and frame with immersion?😁
Why not keep it especially with that mileage .
I just fancy a change, I’ve had it for over 6 years now. Also I’ve just had notification from my accountant of my 24/25 year end profit. This will probably increase for 25/26 and with the higher tax threshold being a lot lower in Scotland I am going to get hammered, so the idea of buying a van to reduce my tax liabilities is probably more appealing than it would be for anyone south of the border.
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Last time I was at Grippatank they had a Transit custom Ev ready to go for someone.I never looked inside but they only bolt tanks in so I’m guessing there must be a way to fix properly.
They were very pricey.The van itself was over 40k (they may have dropped in price now)
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I looked at the rescue card ages ago:
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/Catalog/service_tip_files/Ford_Transit_Custom_Van_2025_5d_Electric_EN.pdf
Shows you all the dimensions of the battery and motor etc.
I’ve decided when I get one, I’ll be using the lashing points and a flag tank.
The battery goes as far as back as the side load door. So not good for tanks being bolted down. You’d have to faff about dropping the battery.
That’s good info Zesty cheers. From that it looks like flat tank ratchet strapped is gonna be the only way to go. Do you reckon the lashing points will need to be reinforced for a flat tank?
My plan is to use the lashing points and glue down (yes I know it sounds mad) the tank with tonnes of adhesive foam or Stixall etc. these modern adhesives are unbelievably strong, like seriously strong. I’d prime the floor for better adhesion. With a flat tank, lashed down and glued, it won’t go anywhere.
Hoping to get the e custom sport in spring. Just hanging on until they come done to 20k plus vat second hand.
How will you eventually remove the tank once it's been glued down?
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Anyone on here interested in a 2019 Custom Sport Auto, 24 000 miles, FSH, 500 litre tank and frame with immersion?😁
Why not keep it especially with that mileage .
I just fancy a change, I’ve had it for over 6 years now. Also I’ve just had notification from my accountant of my 24/25 year end profit. This will probably increase for 25/26 and with the higher tax threshold being a lot lower in Scotland I am going to get hammered, so the idea of buying a van to reduce my tax liabilities is probably more appealing than it would be for anyone south of the border.
If you are worried about going into a higher tax threshold, you could just pay money into a pension to get the equivalent amount of tax relief on your contribution.
For me personally I would not want to change a van with such low mileage - assuming I was happy with the van.
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I looked at the rescue card ages ago:
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/Catalog/service_tip_files/Ford_Transit_Custom_Van_2025_5d_Electric_EN.pdf
Shows you all the dimensions of the battery and motor etc.
I’ve decided when I get one, I’ll be using the lashing points and a flag tank.
The battery goes as far as back as the side load door. So not good for tanks being bolted down. You’d have to faff about dropping the battery.
That’s good info Zesty cheers. From that it looks like flat tank ratchet strapped is gonna be the only way to go. Do you reckon the lashing points will need to be reinforced for a flat tank?
My plan is to use the lashing points and glue down (yes I know it sounds mad) the tank with tonnes of adhesive foam or Stixall etc. these modern adhesives are unbelievably strong, like seriously strong. I’d prime the floor for better adhesion. With a flat tank, lashed down and glued, it won’t go anywhere.
Hoping to get the e custom sport in spring. Just hanging on until they come done to 20k plus vat second hand.
How will you eventually remove the tank once it's been glued down?
With a lot of hard work ;D
Alternatively, I’d sell it as a window cleaning van.
The glue option would probably only be used if the straps weren’t sufficient. The other option is to glue down some sort of framing round the tank, I.e some 2x4 timber layed flat. Just to help prevent the tank sliding.
There is a few options, but likely I’ll be going for a smaller tank, flat and strapped down with the appropriate straps.
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How about putting a metal frame around the tank but elongated to the rear and with a cross member that would sit 'behind' the wheel arches?
So looking from above the leading edge of the frame would extend to behind the door pillars and the tank leading edge against the bulkhead; then a long support each side of the tank with a cross member at the back of the tank and a final cross member at the rear behind but up against the wheel arches?
Also strapped down.
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How about putting a metal frame around the tank but elongated to the rear and with a cross member that would sit 'behind' the wheel arches?
So looking from above the leading edge of the frame would extend to behind the door pillars and the tank leading edge against the bulkhead; then a long support each side of the tank with a cross member at the back of the tank and a final cross member at the rear behind but up against the wheel arches?
Also strapped down.
Could do, but that would take up a lot of room, I have loads of gear in the back of my van, the gutter vac, pressure washer, softwash machine and other bits and bobs are often on rotation.
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How about putting a metal frame around the tank but elongated to the rear and with a cross member that would sit 'behind' the wheel arches?
So looking from above the leading edge of the frame would extend to behind the door pillars and the tank leading edge against the bulkhead; then a long support each side of the tank with a cross member at the back of the tank and a final cross member at the rear behind but up against the wheel arches?
Also strapped down.
Another consideration I’m having, with the footprint/weight of the battery pack (around 400kg?)being pretty much where the footprint/weight of the tank is (in my case 550kg when full) will this affect the structural integrity of the van?
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How about putting a metal frame around the tank but elongated to the rear and with a cross member that would sit 'behind' the wheel arches?
So looking from above the leading edge of the frame would extend to behind the door pillars and the tank leading edge against the bulkhead; then a long support each side of the tank with a cross member at the back of the tank and a final cross member at the rear behind but up against the wheel arches?
Also strapped down.
Another consideration I’m having, with the footprint/weight of the battery pack (around 400kg?)being pretty much where the footprint/weight of the tank is (in my case 550kg when full) will this affect the structural integrity of the van?
I very much doubt it would affect it as they are designed to carry weight but wouldn’t hurt to ask the dealer
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How about putting a metal frame around the tank but elongated to the rear and with a cross member that would sit 'behind' the wheel arches?
So looking from above the leading edge of the frame would extend to behind the door pillars and the tank leading edge against the bulkhead; then a long support each side of the tank with a cross member at the back of the tank and a final cross member at the rear behind but up against the wheel arches?
Also strapped down.
Another consideration I’m having, with the footprint/weight of the battery pack (around 400kg?)being pretty much where the footprint/weight of the tank is (in my case 550kg when full) will this affect the structural integrity of the van?
Defo no problem mate, no way would the chassis/van floor flex anywhere near enough to cause issues with the battery
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So looking at tanks now, my present tank is an Enduramaxx 500 litre upright and very happy with it, it’s very well made and there is no water sloshing at all, so if I’m buying a new tank I would prefer another Enduramaxx tank. Looking at the Enduramaxx 500 flat which would be better for ratchet strapping but they would want £180 to deliver it to Scotland😲. Just wondering if I should ratchet strap my current tank? dimensions are L1200 W500 H1100
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With these ev vans are they restricted to 60mph on motorways the same as HGV's as they are over 3.5t?
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With these ev vans are they restricted to 60mph on motorways the same as HGV's as they are over 3.5t?
The Transit Custom is 3.25t.
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With these ev vans are they restricted to 60mph on motorways the same as HGV's as they are over 3.5t?
Motorways van speed limit is 70 it’s 60 on duel carriage ways and 50 on normal road , unless it states on the v5 it’s a window van or a motorhome
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So looking at tanks now, my present tank is an Enduramaxx 500 litre upright and very happy with it, it’s very well made and there is no water sloshing at all, so if I’m buying a new tank I would prefer another Enduramaxx tank. Looking at the Enduramaxx 500 flat which would be better for ratchet strapping but they would want £180 to deliver it to Scotland😲. Just wondering if I should ratchet strap my current tank? dimensions are L1200 W500 H1100
I’d go flat mate, you might get a bit of sloshing, so stuff a load of flexible drainage hose in the tank, that’s what I did. Worked a treat.
Flat tanks are so much safer. Also spreads the weight a bit better.
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So looking at tanks now, my present tank is an Enduramaxx 500 litre upright and very happy with it, it’s very well made and there is no water sloshing at all, so if I’m buying a new tank I would prefer another Enduramaxx tank. Looking at the Enduramaxx 500 flat which would be better for ratchet strapping but they would want £180 to deliver it to Scotland😲. Just wondering if I should ratchet strap my current tank? dimensions are L1200 W500 H1100
I’d go flat mate, you might get a bit of sloshing, so stuff a load of flexible drainage hose in the tank, that’s what I did. Worked a treat.
Flat tanks are so much safer. Also spreads the weight a bit better.
Maybe I’m overthinking things but another problem with a flat tank is this, I usually fill my upright to about 425 litres, so there is plenty room at the top of the tank before switching off my submersible pump. I would need to fill a flat tank nearer the brim to avoid air locks towards the end of the day, this would mean there is an increased risk of overfilling the tank and flooding the van🤯
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So looking at tanks now, my present tank is an Enduramaxx 500 litre upright and very happy with it, it’s very well made and there is no water sloshing at all, so if I’m buying a new tank I would prefer another Enduramaxx tank. Looking at the Enduramaxx 500 flat which would be better for ratchet strapping but they would want £180 to deliver it to Scotland😲. Just wondering if I should ratchet strap my current tank? dimensions are L1200 W500 H1100
I’d go flat mate, you might get a bit of sloshing, so stuff a load of flexible drainage hose in the tank, that’s what I did. Worked a treat.
Flat tanks are so much safer. Also spreads the weight a bit better.
Maybe I’m overthinking things but another problem with a flat tank is this, I usually fill my upright to about 425 litres, so there is plenty room at the top of the tank before switching off my submersible pump. I would need to fill a flat tank nearer the brim to avoid air locks towards the end of the day, this would mean there is an increased risk of overfilling the tank and flooding the van🤯
Airlocks is the main issue with flat tanks if you live in a hilly area and constantly parking the opposite way to the tank outlet you will have issues ,I had a flat tanks years ago had nothing but problems since having an upright tank never had any since
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The 500l Grippa Tank is 710mm high. It is a low level tank but probably high enough to limit air lock probelms. Another option would be a custom made tank from someone like www.plasticwatertanks.co.uk
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You just need to fit a non-return valve on the tank outlet. Cost about a fiver and pretty much eliminates air ingress! I've been using one for years. 👍
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You just need to fit a non-return valve on the tank outlet. Cost about a fiver and pretty much eliminates air ingress! I've been using one for years. 👍
That doesn’t work when the vans parked up hill and the water level is below the water outlet , I found this to be the main issues with a flat tank.
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You just need to fit a non-return valve on the tank outlet. Cost about a fiver and pretty much eliminates air ingress! I've been using one for years. 👍
That doesn’t work when the vans parked up hill and the water level is below the water outlet , I found this to be the main issues with a flat tank.
Errrrrr.... Obviously! But it does prevent air ingress from the water movement when the level drops to a low point.
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You just need to fit a non-return valve on the tank outlet. Cost about a fiver and pretty much eliminates air ingress! I've been using one for years. 👍
That doesn’t work when the vans parked up hill and the water level is below the water outlet , I found this to be the main issues with a flat tank.
Errrrrr.... Obviously! But it does prevent air ingress from the water movement when the level drops to a low point.
But quite often you end up with half a tank of water you can’t use if parked on a hill, that was the main issue I had then you got air in the system and it was a pita when you did have water above the outlet again ,.
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I don't get the drama about a flat tank being a problem. I just park the van 'the right way' so the outlet is at the lowest point.
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I don't get the drama about a flat tank being a problem. I just park the van 'the right way' so the outlet is at the lowest point.
You can’t necessarily do that though can you especially in a one way street etc if you live in a relatively flat area like Lincolnshire you would prob get away with it but you certainly can’t ware we live , I don’t know a single cleaner that has a flat tank as they won’t work here .
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You just need to fit a non-return valve on the tank outlet. Cost about a fiver and pretty much eliminates air ingress! I've been using one for years. 👍
That doesn’t work when the vans parked up hill and the water level is below the water outlet , I found this to be the main issues with a flat tank.
Errrrrr.... Obviously! But it does prevent air ingress from the water movement when the level drops to a low point.
But quite often you end up with half a tank of water you can’t use if parked on a hill, that was the main issue I had then you got air in the system and it was a pita when you did have water above the outlet again ,.
This is what a non-return valve will help with. You can't draw water when the level is below the outlet (obviously) but the NRV ensures that air is not sucked into the outlet pipe- like it is without one.
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I don't get the drama about a flat tank being a problem. I just park the van 'the right way' so the outlet is at the lowest point.
You can’t necessarily do that though can you especially in a one way street etc if you live in a relatively flat area like Lincolnshire you would prob get away with it but you certainly can’t ware we live , I don’t know a single cleaner that has a flat tank as they won’t work here .
My area has some flat areas and some pretty hilly bits. My outlet is on the nearside front so generally works with the camber of the road.
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I don't get the drama about a flat tank being a problem. I just park the van 'the right way' so the outlet is at the lowest point.
I’m used to parking where I can pull the hose as I walk. My work is compact and if I was in a street where it might be downhill at the start of the street and uphill at the end of the street I would find it a PITA having to turn the van to face the opposite direction.
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I don't get the drama about a flat tank being a problem. I just park the van 'the right way' so the outlet is at the lowest point.
You can’t necessarily do that though can you especially in a one way street etc if you live in a relatively flat area like Lincolnshire you would prob get away with it but you certainly can’t ware we live , I don’t know a single cleaner that has a flat tank as they won’t work here .
My area has some flat areas and some pretty hilly bits. My outlet is on the nearside front so generally works with the camber of the road.
But what happens if you are facing up a reasonably steep hill ? I found it was drawing air as the water went to the back of the tank once you get to half a tank full and the outlet was above the water level
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I don't get the drama about a flat tank being a problem. I just park the van 'the right way' so the outlet is at the lowest point.
You can’t necessarily do that though can you especially in a one way street etc if you live in a relatively flat area like Lincolnshire you would prob get away with it but you certainly can’t ware we live , I don’t know a single cleaner that has a flat tank as they won’t work here .
My area has some flat areas and some pretty hilly bits. My outlet is on the nearside front so generally works with the camber of the road.
But what happens if you are facing up a reasonably steep hill ? I found it was drawing air as the water went to the back of the tank once you get to half a tank full and the outlet was above the water level
Very occasionally you have to be mindful which way round you park the van, making sure the water is angled to the outlet, but for me, having a 750l tank, that’s rarely an issue. I can make 750l of pure last almost all week! So on the day when it’s only got say 200 litters left, as it runs low, I just have to be a bit more thoughtful on how I park. It’s very rarely an issue.
You also have the option to carry 2 or three 25l drums of water to top up the tank if necessary.
I will probably be going to smaller tank when I get the e custom, so I’ve been toying with the idea of having a 100lotre small upright tank in the van as a backup. I’d use this if and when the water in the main tank gets very low. It’d be permanently plumbed into the same hose line to the pump, but with its own isolation tap. So if only turn it on when needed.
There are so many options, it’s pretty easy to navigate round these small hurdles.
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As Zesty said.
Also because I use a very light Claber reel with very light reinforced pole hose sat in a wooden frame I lift it out and point it in the right direction.
My tank is a 650 so on the larger side. But it worked when I ran a 400 too.
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I have a 650l tank and never had a problem with it. Is the problem when running low the system can get airlocks?
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That’s me paid a deposit on a 1 year old E Custom Sport. Will probably fly down for it on Saturday (Birmingham)… if not it will be between Christmas and New Year. That will then give me time to fit it out before starting back to work after New Year.
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That’s me paid a deposit on a 1 year old E Custom Sport. Will probably fly down for it on Saturday (Birmingham)… if not it will be between Christmas and New Year. That will then give me time to fit it out before starting back to work after New Year.
You will love it.
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That’s me paid a deposit on a 1 year old E Custom Sport. Will probably fly down for it on Saturday (Birmingham)… if not it will be between Christmas and New Year. That will then give me time to fit it out before starting back to work after New Year.
Exciting mate, keep me posted once you’re up and running with it 👍🏼
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That’s me paid a deposit on a 1 year old E Custom Sport. Will probably fly down for it on Saturday (Birmingham)… if not it will be between Christmas and New Year. That will then give me time to fit it out before starting back to work after New Year.
Exciting mate, keep me posted once you’re up and running with it 👍🏼
Will do👍🏻.. Was gonna get an electric reel from Daqua but they’re closed until Jan 4th. I’m now thinking of going with an Enduramaxx 850 litre flat tank, it’s a similar footprint to the 500 litre version but obviously higher, meaning if I fill it with about 500 litres of water this will reduce the risk of flooding when filling up from my IBC and should hopefully eliminate air locks.
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Yeah you’ll be fine, I’ve never had an airlock with my 750l flat tank. It’s never even occurred to me.
It’s gonna be a long journey home for you, having to stop and charge a few times. Once it’s home, I’m sure you’ll love it!
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Yeah you’ll be fine, I’ve never had an airlock with my 750l flat tank. It’s never even occurred to me.
It’s gonna be a long journey home for you, having to stop and charge a few times. Once it’s home, I’m sure you’ll love it!
Heading down on the 28th or 29th…..Aye it will be a long journey back, especially with the wife in the passenger seat😂. We are going to stay down there for a couple of days, I have an ex footballer friend from the area so we plan to take in the Coventry-Ipswich game on the 29th.
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Get yourself the Zapmap ap. shows you where all the chargers are and much more. Really good 👍
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.
Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.
Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.
The whole green agenda is nonsense.
However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.
I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.
For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.
Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’
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Personally I am neutral on EVS. My wish to dislike Daz post was the thought of Kemi Badenoch, or someone similar as PM.
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.
Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.
The whole green agenda is nonsense.
However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.
I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.
For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.
Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’
I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning
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Personally I am neutral on EVS. My wish to dislike Daz post was the thought of Kemi Badenoch, or someone similar as PM.
Labour are no better.....remember we ve got the tories to thank for lowering NICs to 6% for self employed people which saves us a few quid.
Labour are anti business plain and simple. The economy will not grow with their policies
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.
Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.
The whole green agenda is nonsense.
However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.
I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.
For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.
Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’
I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning
Why can't you have a diesel heater in an electric van?
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.
Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.
That comment is nearly as daft as you don’t need a van mounted system and I don’t need an electric reel that we’ve all lived through.
I’m 2 months electric and the running costs are 30% of what I was spending.
I’m happy with that and appreciate things may change but see sense, what on earth does that mean?
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.
Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.
The whole green agenda is nonsense.
However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.
I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.
For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.
Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’
I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning
Well there’s nothing stopping you having a diesel heater? Sure, you’ll need a separate tank, but that’s no big deal.
That’s not a reason to dislike EVs.
I agree with you the net zero policies are absolutely ludicrous, we are systematically destroying our own country over it.
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.
Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.
That comment is nearly as daft as you don’t need a van mounted system and I don’t need an electric reel that we’ve all lived through.
I’m 2 months electric and the running costs are 30% of what I was spending.
I’m happy with that and appreciate things may change but see sense, what on earth does that mean?
That'll soon change when the government charges you per mile for road tax!😄👍
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.
Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.
The whole green agenda is nonsense.
However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.
I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.
For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.
Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’
I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning
Well there’s nothing stopping you having a diesel heater? Sure, you’ll need a separate tank, but that’s no big deal.
That’s not a reason to dislike EVs.
I agree with you the net zero policies are absolutely ludicrous, we are systematically destroying our own country over it.
Having a separate diesel tank in the van will have to do but it's much easier/convenient to run a diesel heater in a diesel van.
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Pay per mile will eventually apply to all motorists, it won’t end at ev’s. Still cheaper to run an EV even with Pay per mile.
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.
Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.
The whole green agenda is nonsense.
However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.
I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.
For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.
Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’
I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning
Well there’s nothing stopping you having a diesel heater? Sure, you’ll need a separate tank, but that’s no big deal.
That’s not a reason to dislike EVs.
I agree with you the net zero policies are absolutely ludicrous, we are systematically destroying our own country over it.
Having a separate diesel tank in the van will have to do but it's much easier/convenient to run a diesel heater in a diesel van.
Having a seperate diesel tank for your heater means you can run it on red diesel too. Win win.
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.
Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.
The whole green agenda is nonsense.
However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.
I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.
For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.
Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’
I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning
Well there’s nothing stopping you having a diesel heater? Sure, you’ll need a separate tank, but that’s no big deal.
That’s not a reason to dislike EVs.
I agree with you the net zero policies are absolutely ludicrous, we are systematically destroying our own country over it.
Having a separate diesel tank in the van will have to do but it's much easier/convenient to run a diesel heater in a diesel van.
Having a seperate diesel tank for your heater means you can run it on red diesel too. Win win.
Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...
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Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...
Urban Myth i'm afraid. Running something like that is exactly what red diesel is for.............. non taxable plant stuff, agriculture use etc....
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Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...
Urban Myth i'm afraid. Running something like that is exactly what red diesel is for.............. non taxable plant stuff, agriculture use etc....
It’s not an urban myth Wabasto themselves say not to use red diesel in them as it soots them up this is especially so in there fitment into boats most boatyards will not work on them if they have been run on red , I don’t understand why red diesel does this as its basically white diesel with a dye in it , but that’s what the manufacturers say
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Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...
Urban Myth i'm afraid. Running something like that is exactly what red diesel is for.............. non taxable plant stuff, agriculture use etc....
This is part of Wabasto s instructions to there fitters (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1766168876_IMG_0640.jpeg)
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The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.
Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.
The whole green agenda is nonsense.
However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.
I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.
For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.
Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’
I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning
Well there’s nothing stopping you having a diesel heater? Sure, you’ll need a separate tank, but that’s no big deal.
That’s not a reason to dislike EVs.
I agree with you the net zero policies are absolutely ludicrous, we are systematically destroying our own country over it.
Having a separate diesel tank in the van will have to do but it's much easier/convenient to run a diesel heater in a diesel van.
Having a seperate diesel tank for your heater means you can run it on red diesel too. Win win.
If you are using a diesel air heater to heat your van, then you may use red diesel.
If you are heating water to only heat your van with radiators, then you can use red diesel.
If you are using your heater to heat water to clean your customer's windows, then you aren't allowed to use red diesel. You can't use red diesel for commercial purposes.
One of the garages in Stockton-on-Tees sells red diesel. You have a form to fill out with all your details declaring the intended use of the red diesel you are purchasing, completing it with a signed declaration for HMRC.
Leisure boats, such as canal boats, have to split their diesel fill up into heating and propulsion elements. Propulsion will account for 60% of the bill, taxed at the standard diesel tax rate, and the remaining 40% of the same diesel for heating at the lower tax rate.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/reform-of-red-diesel-entitlements/reform-of-red-diesel-and-other-rebated-fuels-entitlement
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Thanks for the clarification Spruce.
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The way it is going, soon they will do away with red diesel but our food will cost more. The way the Gov is going for the farmers then i guess that will be the next step. I would do away with it and give the farmers a rebate on the amount of diesel they use. This red diesel compliance is a bit of a mine field. LPG for vehicles used to be half the price of petrol and now its 99.9p. The Gov needs money to pay for welfare and pensions so nothing is going to get cheaper, that's the reason I buy equipment for my business and hold on to it.
The 5p a litre on fuel is coming back in April so everything will go up and push up inflation a bit. After that there is not much the Gov can put up without getting folk angry. I believe the next step will be Vat heading for 25% like Sweden so the best thing we can do is buy any equipment that we need now. Someone was telling us about the old price of PF electric hosereel and what it cost now. I'm thinking of buying one as a spare in the future.
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Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...
Urban Myth i'm afraid. Running something like that is exactly what red diesel is for.............. non taxable plant stuff, agriculture use etc....
It’s not an urban myth Wabasto themselves say not to use red diesel in them as it soots them up this is especially so in there fitment into boats most boatyards will not work on them if they have been run on red , I don’t understand why red diesel does this as its basically white diesel with a dye in it , but that’s what the manufacturers say
Webasto say do not use BS2869 which most people call heating oil.
Webasto say to use EN 590, which is available as "RED diesel " from loads of places.
https://www.beesleyfuels.co.uk for example, sell both. As do most fuel suppliers.
Maybe a moot point, as Spruce has pointed out, it doesn't look like its legal to use it anyway.
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Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...
Urban Myth i'm afraid. Running something like that is exactly what red diesel is for.............. non taxable plant stuff, agriculture use etc....
It’s not an urban myth Wabasto themselves say not to use red diesel in them as it soots them up this is especially so in there fitment into boats most boatyards will not work on them if they have been run on red , I don’t understand why red diesel does this as its basically white diesel with a dye in it , but that’s what the manufacturers say
Webasto say do not use BS2869 which most people call heating oil.
Webasto say to use EN 590, which is available as "RED diesel " from loads of places.
https://www.beesleyfuels.co.uk for example, sell both. As do most fuel suppliers.
Maybe a moot point, as Spruce has pointed out, it doesn't look like its legal to use it anyway.
You can get red diesel in EN 590 but it is still different to the equivalent white diesel EN590 it doesn’t have many of the additives of white version
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I put the expensive supreme diesel in my van every so often(i did yesterday). I dont know whether it makes a difference to my engine or my diesel heater or whether its just a marketing con but it's supposed to have extra cleaning agents added.
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I put the expensive supreme diesel in my van every so often(i did yesterday). I dont know whether it makes a difference to my engine or my diesel heater or whether its just a marketing con but it's supposed to have extra cleaning agents added.
I don’t think it makes any difference, my transit custom is on 145,000 and always been run on diesel from Tesco. The engine is still absolutely mint.
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Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...
Urban Myth i'm afraid. Running something like that is exactly what red diesel is for.............. non taxable plant stuff, agriculture use etc....
It’s not an urban myth Wabasto themselves say not to use red diesel in them as it soots them up this is especially so in there fitment into boats most boatyards will not work on them if they have been run on red , I don’t understand why red diesel does this as its basically white diesel with a dye in it , but that’s what the manufacturers say
Webasto say do not use BS2869 which most people call heating oil.
Webasto say to use EN 590, which is available as "RED diesel " from loads of places.
https://www.beesleyfuels.co.uk for example, sell both. As do most fuel suppliers.
Maybe a moot point, as Spruce has pointed out, it doesn't look like its legal to use it anyway.
I was speaking to a tree surgeon a while back.
At one time they ran their wood chipper on red diesel. After the regulations changed, it now has to be road diesel.
Landscapers can no longer run their equipment on red diesel. So the price of those services has increased to the end user.
We have had a few canal boat holidays. We came across a fuel station on the edge of the canal. The garage had a fuel pump on the landing of the canal. He was selling road diesel to canal boats still applying the 60 40 tax split.
To run an air heater on red diesel means a separate stand alone tank. An air diesel heater is pretty frugal on fuel, so I doubt it's worth the trouble cost wise of using red diesel. For example, our only local red diesel supplier is 6 miles away and supplies all the local fisher man. At one time I read a report that the diesel supplied to fishing boats was of very low quality, but that was a long time ago. For all I know, it's now ordinary road diesel with reduced tax for fishermen.
I don't even know what the tax situation is legally regarding the fuel used in their tractors to pull the boats out of the water into their storage/ park area a city block inland. Do they have to use road (white) diesel?
I did ask the tree surgeon where he bought his red Friday from when he was still allowed to use it. He told me from the garage near North Tees hospital in Stockton-on-Tees. When ever they were in the area they fill up a few jerry cans. I asked why he didn't buy from the local fisherman's supplier in Redcar. He told me he wouldn't use that stuff. If they were short of red diesel, they would rather fill up a jerry can with road diesel at the local service station and use that.
Farmers who use red diesel in their equipment aren't legally allowed to use that equipment on the road, unless the road is the only means of them getting from one field to another.
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I was watching a USA car program and it was about a volvo car that has done 3 million odd miles and still going strong. The guy changed the oil every 4,000 miles and the guy said that's the reason the engine keeps going. Every year I run my fuel tank down low and put 2 cans of Catclean in the diesel tank. Then i run the van down the motorway for 30 miles and back again. Then I change my oil, oil filter and diesel filter and my mate takes it for a MOT. If you maintain something it usually lasts but if you look at UK Govs you see the opposite view. They wait till the thing falls apart before they have to maintain it. That's why our roads don't get maintained properly because they have no plan inplace because that means they need to find the money for the plan.
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Picked up my E Custom Sport from Birmingham Ford yesterday morning. Spent the day/night in Birmingham and Coventry so didn’t drive it much yesterday. Drove it home 340 miles today and first impressions are this van is brilliant to drive, a better ride than my Custom Sport diesel, probably because of the smaller wheels and the bigger sidewalls on tyres? Will be kitting it out between now and the 4th of January, then we’ll see how it fare’s as a works van.
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Picked up my E Custom Sport from Birmingham Ford yesterday morning. Spent the day/night in Birmingham and Coventry so didn’t drive it much yesterday. Drove it home 340 miles today and first impressions are this van is brilliant to drive, a better ride than my Custom Sport diesel, probably because of the smaller wheels and the bigger sidewalls on tyres? Will be kitting it out between now and the 4th of January, then we’ll see how it fare’s as a works van.
Mega comfy to drive isn’t it, I think the biggest difference is the rear springs, it’s made the van much more comfortable.
Keep us posted 👍🏼
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Picked up my E Custom Sport from Birmingham Ford yesterday morning. Spent the day/night in Birmingham and Coventry so didn’t drive it much yesterday. Drove it home 340 miles today and first impressions are this van is brilliant to drive, a better ride than my Custom Sport diesel, probably because of the smaller wheels and the bigger sidewalls on tyres? Will be kitting it out between now and the 4th of January, then we’ll see how it fare’s as a works van.
Mega comfy to drive isn’t it, I think the biggest difference is the rear springs, it’s made the van much more comfortable.
Keep us posted 👍🏼
Aye it could be that, it creates quite a gap between tyre and wheel arch but if the trade off is a better ride I’m all for it. The drivers seat is a big improvement too, so comfortable, even on a long drive.
Will give an update once it’s kitted out and on the job👍🏻
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Picked up my E Custom Sport from Birmingham Ford yesterday morning. Spent the day/night in Birmingham and Coventry so didn’t drive it much yesterday. Drove it home 340 miles today and first impressions are this van is brilliant to drive, a better ride than my Custom Sport diesel, probably because of the smaller wheels and the bigger sidewalls on tyres? Will be kitting it out between now and the 4th of January, then we’ll see how it fare’s as a works van.
Mega comfy to drive isn’t it, I think the biggest difference is the rear springs, it’s made the van much more comfortable.
Keep us posted 👍🏼
Aye it could be that, it creates quite a gap between tyre and wheel arch but if the trade off is a better ride I’m all for it. The drivers seat is a big improvement too, so comfortable, even on a long drive.
Will give an update once it’s kitted out and on the job👍🏻
Look forward to the update. I got a pcp quote on one the other day, too expensive. Think I will get a personal loan and wack a decent size deposit down. What colour you gone for?
I’m looking at ex demos and used ones with less than 4000 miles on the clock.
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Picked up my E Custom Sport from Birmingham Ford yesterday morning. Spent the day/night in Birmingham and Coventry so didn’t drive it much yesterday. Drove it home 340 miles today and first impressions are this van is brilliant to drive, a better ride than my Custom Sport diesel, probably because of the smaller wheels and the bigger sidewalls on tyres? Will be kitting it out between now and the 4th of January, then we’ll see how it fare’s as a works van.
Mega comfy to drive isn’t it, I think the biggest difference is the rear springs, it’s made the van much more comfortable.
Keep us posted 👍🏼
Aye it could be that, it creates quite a gap between tyre and wheel arch but if the trade off is a better ride I’m all for it. The drivers seat is a big improvement too, so comfortable, even on a long drive.
Will give an update once it’s kitted out and on the job👍🏻
Look forward to the update. I got a pcp quote on one the other day, too expensive. Think I will get a personal loan and wack a decent size deposit down. What colour you gone for?
I’m looking at ex demos and used ones with less than 4000 miles on the clock.
I got a silver one,1 year old with 1000 miles. It was pre registered and used by the garage. I had actually put a deposit down on a grey matter one then a silver one became available about a week later from the same garage, so I asked if they would swap my deposit over to the silver one, which they did. Silver was always my preferred choice but they are harder to come by. I negotiated a good discount from the advertised price and got ply lining and floor mats included.
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Picked up my E Custom Sport from Birmingham Ford yesterday morning. Spent the day/night in Birmingham and Coventry so didn’t drive it much yesterday. Drove it home 340 miles today and first impressions are this van is brilliant to drive, a better ride than my Custom Sport diesel, probably because of the smaller wheels and the bigger sidewalls on tyres? Will be kitting it out between now and the 4th of January, then we’ll see how it fare’s as a works van.
Mega comfy to drive isn’t it, I think the biggest difference is the rear springs, it’s made the van much more comfortable.
Keep us posted 👍🏼
Aye it could be that, it creates quite a gap between tyre and wheel arch but if the trade off is a better ride I’m all for it. The drivers seat is a big improvement too, so comfortable, even on a long drive.
Will give an update once it’s kitted out and on the job👍🏻
Look forward to the update. I got a pcp quote on one the other day, too expensive. Think I will get a personal loan and wack a decent size deposit down. What colour you gone for?
I’m looking at ex demos and used ones with less than 4000 miles on the clock.
I got a silver one,1 year old with 1000 miles. It was pre registered and used by the garage. I had actually put a deposit down on a grey matter one then a silver one became available about a week later from the same garage, so I asked if they would swap my deposit over to the silver one, which they did. Silver was always my preferred choice but they are harder to come by. I negotiated a good discount from the advertised price and got ply lining and floor mats included.
Nice.
I’m going either grey matter or the new blue colour.
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Is the van quick? Should be pretty rapid 0-30mph.
I’ve only test driven the limited spec.
Also how much do you pay? This will help me with bartering with the dealer.
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Is the van quick? Should be pretty rapid 0-30mph.
I’ve only test driven the limited spec.
Also how much do you pay? This will help me with bartering with the dealer.
It’s very quick off the mark. Don’t really like putting how much I paid on the forum but I’ll make an allowance since you asked, I paid £25 300 + VAT, I sold my old van for £18k so that was quite a chunk to put towards the purchase.
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Is the van quick? Should be pretty rapid 0-30mph.
I’ve only test driven the limited spec.
Also how much do you pay? This will help me with bartering with the dealer.
It’s very quick off the mark. Don’t really like putting how much I paid on the forum but I’ll make an allowance since you asked, I paid £25 300 + VAT, I sold my old van for £18k so that was quite a chunk to put towards the purchase.
Good price 👍🏼
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So that’s me done a weeks work with my E Custom. The van itself is quite brilliant, a pleasure to drive, very smooth and it glides nicely over the various road surfaces, in fact it’s such a comfortable ride that I now find it a drag to drive our X4M about town as it obviously has much stiffer suspension.
I don’t have a home charger installed yet so I’m relying on public chargers at the moment which is a bit of a pain. The van only charges to 90% ( I will need to look into this ) which gives a range of 160 miles, the reality is that of the predicted 160 miles I will actually get around 130 miles in the winter months. Not a problem as I don’t do a lot of miles.
The ratchet strapping of the flat tank isn’t ideal but it is the best solution at the moment, I have one strap going over the top to pull it down to the floor and another going around it pulling it towards the bulkhead, it does feel solid but of course it isn’t crash tested, but then the Waterworks professionaly fitted system for EV’s won’t have been crash tested either?
I mentioned in another thread that the water sloshing was terrible in the flat tank, I have added 25 metres of 100mm perforated drainage pipe cut into shorter lengths, this has made a big difference.
All in all a very positive first week, the only negative so far being that there doesn’t seem to be a viable option of a bolted in tank/frame.
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Nice one, it’ll take a bit of getting used to.
We use the Hypervolt charger for our ev car, would recommend it. Once you’re charging at home, youll realise how easy the whole ev switch is.
I’ve never used a charging point anywhere else, we have the eon off peak ev tarriff and can charge our car once or twice a week for less than £3.50 a go.