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Title: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on August 14, 2025, 04:50:29 pm
BBC News - Yorkshire Water hosepipe ban could be extended to businesses - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dxq12rvkqo?app-referrer=deep-link

I do wonder if there would be government help like other businesses did during COVID, or would we be left out to rot and forgotten about.   It's a serious worry.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Spruce on August 14, 2025, 08:58:47 pm
BBC News - Yorkshire Water hosepipe ban could be extended to businesses - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dxq12rvkqo?app-referrer=deep-link

I do wonder if there would be government help like other businesses did during COVID, or would we be left out to rot and forgotten about.   It's a serious worry.

If we listen to government, they have a 50 billion black hole to fill, the same black hole that stopping pensioners heating allowance last year was earmarked to solve.

So I very much doubt there will be any government assistance for us with a full hose pipe ban. Car wash business will probably be allowed to use a bucket. If it gets to standpipe water collection only, then we will all be in the same boat.

I won't go back to ladders, so I will just have to wait the drought out.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Slacky on August 14, 2025, 09:49:01 pm
If you don’t want to use ladders you can get by doing trad downstairs for the time being.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Spruce on August 15, 2025, 06:26:41 am
If you don’t want to use ladders you can get by doing trad downstairs for the time being.

This becomes an interesting situation. We live in Saltburn by the Sea. Teesside doesn't have a hose pipe ban and hasn't had in the past 25 years we have lived here. We are in the county of Redcar and Cleveland, but a Google search tells me that Saltburn is in North Yorkshire.

However, we are under the jurisdiction of Northumberland water who haven't any plans to introduce a hose pipe ban.

If commercial use of hose pipes is banned, does this mean I can still clean windows in areas not supplied by Northumbrian water?

Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: zesty on August 15, 2025, 06:33:51 am
Might be an idea for the government to do something sensible (unlikely I know) and actually build some new reservoirs. We haven’t built a new reservoir in over 30 years.

Mean time the population has rapidly increased. More water than ever before is needed.

Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: NBwcs on August 15, 2025, 07:54:21 am
Might be an idea for the government to do something sensible (unlikely I know) and actually build some new reservoirs. We haven’t built a new reservoir in over 30 years.

Mean time the population has rapidly increased. More water than ever before is needed.




12 new resovoirs being built... Shame  the Tories sat back and  allowed the water companies to be so complacent but of course it was them that pushed for privatisation in the 1st place.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: NBwcs on August 15, 2025, 08:04:36 am
Worrying for Yorkshire wndies. If it happens how do they decide who gets restrictions. Logic would  lead you to believe the biggest users would be hit but that won't happen. I use to work for Anglian Water, and I posted about this a few years ago but one of their biggest customers is Coca Cola in Suffolk. Their usage is staggering, I can't remember now exactly how much it is but it's more than Ipswich and surrounding area combined. Nothing remotely vital about Coca cola production.. I guarantee companies like these in the Yorkshire area with huge usage won't see restrictions.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on August 15, 2025, 08:15:28 am
With the Water companies failing to maintain their leeks and build new reservoirs as advised ten years ago.  They chose to ignore the signs and pay the directors huge dividends instead.    We would not be in this mess if they did as they were told. 

We adopted huge expenses ourselves with our WFP setup for better safer working conditions.  Can you image it if we were asked to go back to risking our lives again.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Always shining on August 15, 2025, 08:26:34 am
I wouldn’t worry. It will open the heavens again soon. Panic over!
Apart from panic over flooding of course!!!
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on August 15, 2025, 08:47:11 am
I wouldn’t worry. It will open the heavens again soon. Panic over!
Apart from panic over flooding of course!!!

We have enough water falling from the heavens anyway , the issue is they can't stock up and hold onto the water for long.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Spruce on August 15, 2025, 09:09:30 am
Might be an idea for the government to do something sensible (unlikely I know) and actually build some new reservoirs. We haven’t built a new reservoir in over 30 years.

Mean time the population has rapidly increased. More water than ever before is needed.

No mention has been made about the number of reserviours that have been lost and then sold to builders building executive homes. The was a program on tv about it many years ago.

Water meters were the answer by tightening up on the amount of water each household used. It worked too some extent I believe. If there weren't water meters, then I feel the water situation would be much worse.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: AuRavelling79 on August 15, 2025, 11:18:30 am
Worrying for Yorkshire wndies. If it happens how do they decide who gets restrictions. Logic would  lead you to believe the biggest users would be hit but that won't happen. I use to work for Anglian Water, and I posted about this a few years ago but one of their biggest customers is Coca Cola in Suffolk. Their usage is staggering, I can't remember now exactly how much it is but it's more than Ipswich and surrounding area combined. Nothing remotely vital about Coca cola production.. I guarantee companies like these in the Yorkshire area with huge usage won't see restrictions.

Wouldn't the Yorkshire windies drive to an area with no ban and fill up there? I'm sure that's what they do officer.

Others collect so much off their roofs for winter for times like these so they can use it now.

It's not as if we are connected to the mains with our van systems is it? So it must be true.

 ;D
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Simon Trapani on August 15, 2025, 01:41:29 pm
Stop panicking you lot. It’ll be winter soon. It all evens out in the end. Always does.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on August 15, 2025, 02:06:16 pm
Stop panicking you lot. It’ll be winter soon. It all evens out in the end. Always does.

The problem is we lose too much water all year round.   Each year we have less availability and the next few years will get more horrendous.

So we harvest more water in the winter, but we are unable to store it properly.

Thanks to the lazy water companies we are loosing 3 Billion litres of water a day through poor pipes.  In perspective, this leakage also translates to an average of 113 liters of water leaked per property per day.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Stoots on August 15, 2025, 05:05:46 pm
I dont mind a few months off if the gov can cover my bills
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: NBwcs on August 15, 2025, 05:32:33 pm
I dont mind a few months off if the gov can cover my bills


Well they were happy enough to take away money from pensioners, (for a while), we're looking to get people off disability payments, so I wouldn't hold your breath on getting any help if the worse did happen.  ;)
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Slacky on August 15, 2025, 07:22:01 pm
There’s a few sources of water round here. At home we rely on aquifer water and rarely get water restrictions apparently.

Two weeks ago I was working in a small town called Sechelt. They get their water from some other place, not sure wher. Anyway, in Sechelt you can’t window clean unless you bring your water with you, which I had, from home.

Next week I’ll be going into Sechelt and out the far side, up to a remote place called Egmont, Google it - it’s lovely; their water is also aquifer so no restrictions way up there either, I’ll be window cleaning on the pub and some holiday outlets for the day.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on August 15, 2025, 07:30:21 pm
Loch Morar, the deepest loch in the British Isles, holds a volume of 2.3073 cubic kilometers of water. It has a surface area of 26.7 km² and a maximum depth of 310 meters (1,017 feet).

I've been trying to get Westminster to build a pipeline from Scotland all the way down to the bottom of England. Ticks all the boxes, provides work and we can give you as much fresh water as much as you want but ScotGov and UK Gov don't like each other. If Reform gets in next year it has a good chance of happening.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: simon w on August 15, 2025, 07:31:08 pm
How much water do illegal immigrants and immigrants drink over a 12 month period? maybe if we get rid of them we'd save a fair bit of water there  ???

On a separate note, have you ever known anyone get nicked and prosecuted for using hosepipes during a ban? I haven't......
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 15, 2025, 08:14:02 pm
How much water do illegal immigrants and immigrants drink over a 12 month period? maybe if we get rid of them we'd save a fair bit of water there  ???

Jesus wept. What a tragic, pitiful post. Honestly, mate, go and sit down and have a think about what you've just done.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: robert mitchell on August 15, 2025, 09:18:05 pm
How much water do illegal immigrants and immigrants drink over a 12 month period? maybe if we get rid of them we'd save a fair bit of water there  ???

Jesus wept. What a tragic, pitiful post. Honestly, mate, go and sit down and have a think about what you've just done.

I was sitting here hoping that this post was tongue in cheek .........but i dont think it was :'(

Im against mass migration ...........but not because of drinking water .
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Tam1872 on August 15, 2025, 09:24:32 pm
All the ones who turn there nose up at trad guys thinking there beneaf them, always shouting about how unsafe ladders are. 

Will be telling everyone in 2 weeks, if used safe, ladders are absolutely no risk at all and fine.

They are also enjoying doing them trad as it's good to get a change from the repetitive pole work all day.

As soon as the bans lifted, itl be back to trad guys are scum who you wouldn't p on if they were on fire haha
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Slacky on August 15, 2025, 09:31:29 pm
How much water do illegal immigrants and immigrants drink over a 12 month period? maybe if we get rid of them we'd save a fair bit of water there  ???

On a separate note, have you ever known anyone get nicked and prosecuted for using hosepipes during a ban? I haven't......

What's wrong with being an immigrant?
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Tam1872 on August 15, 2025, 10:19:22 pm
How much water do illegal immigrants and immigrants drink over a 12 month period? maybe if we get rid of them we'd save a fair bit of water there  ???

On a separate note, have you ever known anyone get nicked and prosecuted for using hosepipes during a ban? I haven't......

What's wrong with being an immigrant?

He said ilegal immigrant.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: AuRavelling79 on August 15, 2025, 10:29:08 pm
How much water do illegal immigrants and immigrants drink over a 12 month period? maybe if we get rid of them we'd save a fair bit of water there  ???

On a separate note, have you ever known anyone get nicked and prosecuted for using hosepipes during a ban? I haven't......

What's wrong with being an immigrant?

He said ilegal immigrant.

He said both.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 15, 2025, 10:31:01 pm
How much water do illegal immigrants and immigrants drink over a 12 month period? maybe if we get rid of them we'd save a fair bit of water there  ???

On a separate note, have you ever known anyone get nicked and prosecuted for using hosepipes during a ban? I haven't......

What's wrong with being an immigrant?

He said ilegal immigrant.

He said "illegal immigrants and immigrants".

Apropos of nothing, I went to the eye casualty a couple of weeks ago with a possible torn retina (I've had one before so it's important). Receptionist English. But after that, the triage nurse was Filipino. As was the nurse she passed me on to for further assessment. Then I was moved to an Indian specialist who photographed and scanned my retina and I was finally seen by an Egyptian consultant. All immigrants. All drinking our water, the inconsiderate freeloaders. Send 'em home, I say.

Vin
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Simon Trapani on August 15, 2025, 10:50:59 pm
Wtf? Would you rather have not been seen at all?
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: simon w on August 15, 2025, 11:16:11 pm
How much water do illegal immigrants and immigrants drink over a 12 month period? maybe if we get rid of them we'd save a fair bit of water there  ???

Jesus wept. What a tragic, pitiful post. Honestly, mate, go and sit down and have a think about what you've just done.

Or preferably deport them and save on the drinking water!!
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: NBwcs on August 16, 2025, 12:17:07 am
Wtf? Would you rather have not been seen at all?


Whoooooooooooosh.  ;D
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: zesty on August 16, 2025, 07:15:29 am
We could put the £8 million quid a week we spend on housing ilegal migrants into the water infrastructure.

I’d rather our tax money go on that than be the only country to pay for ilegal migrants to live in 4 star hotels.

The lefty loons among us should give up there spare rooms and house them, if they so desire to see this nation bring in countless ilegal migrants whom we have no idea of their history.

This country has well untruly lost the plot!


It now costs the equivalent of of a city the size of Manchester’s tax for a year. Over half a million hard working Brit’s tax goes solely on ilegal migrants and housing them. And… it’s only getting worse.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Simon Trapani on August 16, 2025, 07:58:22 am
Wtf? Would you rather have not been seen at all?


Whoooooooooooosh.  ;D
Agghh.. sarcasm. It was late. That one must’ve gone over my head😂 Couldn’t believe what I was reading tbh!
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 16, 2025, 08:03:22 am
You do all realise that, factually, asylum seekers are not "illegal" don't you? Calling them that is blindly repeating propaganda that's being spoon-fed to you. If you're happy to be told what to say, carry on, but be aware that it's a lie you're repeating and the people feeding you are laughing at you.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 16, 2025, 08:22:25 am
Wtf? Would you rather have not been seen at all?


Whoooooooooooosh.  ;D
Agghh.. sarcasm. It was late. That one must’ve gone over my head😂 Couldn’t believe what I was reading tbh!

Sorry, Simon, sarcasm doesn't always come across. It just felt like a bit of an open goal given the insanity of the "send 'em home" crowd on here.

And I could have said the same about the people who serve me coffee, work at Tesco, bake at the local bakery, wash my car, clean the toilets in the pub, drive the bus and serve at McDonalds and KFC. Not to mention the people who run the superb Indian and the Thai restaurant around the corner. Or the Turks who run the best food shop in Southampton. But I thought the NHS might have meant something even to the propaganda swallowers.

Life without immigrants in this country would be vastly worse. No matter how much bloody water they drink.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: NBwcs on August 16, 2025, 08:30:34 am
You do all realise that, factually, asylum seekers are not "illegal" don't you? Calling them that is blindly repeating propaganda that's being spoon-fed to you. If you're happy to be told what to say, carry on, but be aware that it's a lie you're repeating and the people feeding you are laughing at you.


I live in a very right wing area where the Daily Mail prevails as newspaper of choice, and it's quite frightening how easily people are brainwashed. There is a genuine feeling that everything wrong in our country stems from "the boats".  The fact that we're talking about illigal immigration on a thread about possible water use restrictions because of lack of rain is quite mind numbing.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: tonyoliver on August 16, 2025, 08:49:48 am
For what it’s worth
I was taken round a  small ex 4  star migrant hotel in Croydon
The resident whom I met several times in a cafe  came to England after having to leave  Syria  as he is  a Freemason a decent man  kind and softly spoken with a family before the war
As a Freemason we share a special connection  he is  my brother 
if you know you know

I used to clean the hotel  and The hotel was run down and almost beyond repair  before  the Change of use someone must of thought  Xmas came early !! It should have been demolished years ago
the reception area was missing no pretty receptionist to give you a room key no plants and plush carpets  with piped music
 the lift wasn’t working  watching a guy in a wheelchair on hands and knees climbing up the stairs.  Was an eye opener
The room. A superior double with a balcony was home to five people  no mini bar no Hypnos  beds and no curtains
The canteen was in the lounge and the food was dished out like a prison film  on trays   It was tepid and tasteless  I did eat there and won’t be dining there again !
  I was warmly welcomed by the staff and other residents unlike the videos you see and they seemed pleased to have someone non adversarial speak to them most had nothing to do except sit around
 no ala carte no choice  no after dinner coffee or the chance of a smoke in the lounge 
not the 4 star experience the papers and the beer drinking snake oil salesmen would have you believe
I could tell you more but what’s the point you’ll believe what they tell you 
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: simon w on August 16, 2025, 10:26:17 am
We could put the £8 million quid a week we spend on housing ilegal migrants into the water infrastructure.

I’d rather our tax money go on that than be the only country to pay for ilegal migrants to live in 4 star hotels.

The lefty loons among us should give up there spare rooms and house them, if they so desire to see this nation bring in countless ilegal migrants whom we have no idea of their history.

This country has well untruly lost the plot!


It now costs the equivalent of of a city the size of Manchester’s tax for a year. Over half a million hard working Brit’s tax goes solely on ilegal migrants and housing them. And… it’s only getting worse.

Well said that Man, I agree with all you have said  8)
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 16, 2025, 10:32:42 am
Not "illegal" however much you might want to believe it.

And listen to yourselves. You're blaming asylum seekers for water shortages because you've been drip fed lies to make you blame poor, displaced people with little to hope for more than safe place to live.

Seriously, you're blaming a handful of thousand people for the country being short of water. Not the utilities that have failed to build one single reservoir since privatisation, who have handed out billions of pounds in dividends.

Give it some thought. Why do you believe what you believe about asylum seekers? Where did your information about them come from?  And what's in it for the person who is stirring you up against them to the extent that (and I repeat it because it's so bizarre) you're blaming them for water shortages - clue: he wants your votes. Ten years ago would you ever have expected to end up making that argument on a public forum?

I'd best leave it for now.

Vin
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: CleanClear on August 16, 2025, 11:17:44 am
We could put the £8 million quid a week we spend on housing ilegal migrants into the water infrastructure.

I’d rather our tax money go on that than be the only country to pay for ilegal migrants to live in 4 star hotels.


Never mind your tax money. Your water bill money is literally being  spaffed up the wall by shareholders who provide no real benefit to the Country. I certainley wouldn't give them £8 million quid a week, they should of been made to go bust and have it taken off them if they can't provide the services they are paid and required to.

Its hard to believe that the last resevoir built was in 1992 and the population has increased by 10 million since then. They've done nothing to meet increasing demand.

  What some of them try to count as 'investment' is just regular maintainance of old pipes etc that is to be expected, like paying to have your van serviced. But they get away with it.

  And raw sewage is increasingly just let to run in our rivers and seas. They do all this in plain sight, and now are charging us even more through the latest bill increases.

    What i find amazing is the fact that Liverpool gets its drinking water from North Wales, and Manchester gets its drinking water from the Lake district. Thats been going on for over 100 years! We've plenty of water technology about , and even more advanced now so it should be easier to manage water. But they extract every last £ for themselves.
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: simon w on August 16, 2025, 11:55:58 am
Not "illegal" however much you might want to believe it.

And listen to yourselves. You're blaming asylum seekers for water shortages because you've been drip fed lies to make you blame poor, displaced people with little to hope for more than safe place to live.

Seriously, you're blaming a handful of thousand people for the country being short of water. Not the utilities that have failed to build one single reservoir since privatisation, who have handed out billions of pounds in dividends.

Give it some thought. Why do you believe what you believe about asylum seekers? Where did your information about them come from?  And what's in it for the person who is stirring you up against them to the extent that (and I repeat it because it's so bizarre) you're blaming them for water shortages - clue: he wants your votes. Ten years ago would you ever have expected to end up making that argument on a public forum?

I'd best leave it for now.

Vin

My god I've never met so many fannies in one place than on this forum, it was a tongue in cheek post, of course I wouldn't begrudge another person drinking water over window cleaning water (well most anyway) . There should be a fanny alert button for some of you lot on here  ;D
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: simon w on August 16, 2025, 12:11:52 pm
For what it’s worth
I was taken round a  small ex 4  star migrant hotel in Croydon
The resident whom I met several times in a cafe  came to England after having to leave  Syria  as he is  a Freemason a decent man  kind and softly spoken with a family before the war
As a Freemason we share a special connection  he is  my brother 
if you know you know

I used to clean the hotel  and The hotel was run down and almost beyond repair  before  the Change of use someone must of thought  Xmas came early !! It should have been demolished years ago
the reception area was missing no pretty receptionist to give you a room key no plants and plush carpets  with piped music
 the lift wasn’t working  watching a guy in a wheelchair on hands and knees climbing up the stairs.  Was an eye opener
The room. A superior double with a balcony was home to five people  no mini bar no Hypnos  beds and no curtains
The canteen was in the lounge and the food was dished out like a prison film  on trays   It was tepid and tasteless  I did eat there and won’t be dining there again !
  I was warmly welcomed by the staff and other residents unlike the videos you see and they seemed pleased to have someone non adversarial speak to them most had nothing to do except sit around
 no ala carte no choice  no after dinner coffee or the chance of a smoke in the lounge 
not the 4 star experience the papers and the beer drinking snake oil salesmen would have you believe
I could tell you more but what’s the point you’ll believe what they tell you

Any of them out working for just eat??  ;D
Title: Re: This could cause us all serious trouble
Post by: AuRavelling79 on August 16, 2025, 12:45:48 pm
Topic locked.

If you are dopey enough to think that illegal immigrants drinking water has an effect upon whether people in Yorkshire can't have their windows cleaned by wfp then go down to Tosh's Trumpite and Tommy corner of this forum and continue with your illiterate ramblings.

He'll run it through a spell check for you.