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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: deeege on July 23, 2025, 09:16:43 am

Title: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: deeege on July 23, 2025, 09:16:43 am
Admittedly it’s something I’ve not been very good at over the years, applying sunscreen. I’ve always been a bit of a sun worshipper, not anymore.

At 44 I’ve just had a large lesion cut out of my neck, 32 stitches and a nice 6 inch scar and a week or so off work. Suspected Basal Cell or Squamous Cell skin cancer., sent off for biopsy so it’s a 4-6 week wait on the results. This is the first of atleast 2 surgeries, the next one will require plastic surgery after removal.

If you’ve got any moles or lumps and bumps on your skin then get straight to your GP and insist you get looked at by a dermatologist. Early detection is vital.

And don’t forget your sunscreen and a sun protection hat.

Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 23, 2025, 11:34:37 am
Admittedly it’s something I’ve not been very good at over the years, applying sunscreen. I’ve always been a bit of a sun worshipper, not anymore.

At 44 I’ve just had a large lesion cut out of my neck, 32 stitches and a nice 6 inch scar and a week or so off work. Suspected Basal Cell or Squamous Cell skin cancer., sent off for biopsy so it’s a 4-6 week wait on the results. This is the first of atleast 2 surgeries, the next one will require plastic surgery after removal.

If you’ve got any moles or lumps and bumps on your skin then get straight to your GP and insist you get looked at by a dermatologist. Early detection is vital.

And don’t forget your sunscreen and a sun protection hat.

Excellent reminder, Deege! Hope all goes quickly and well for you with your procedures.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: NBwcs on July 23, 2025, 11:51:57 am
Hope it turns out OK for you. The sun has to be our biggest danger in this job, we have figures for ladder falls but I doubt there's any stats specifically on how many windys get skin cancer. I'm guilty of not wearing a hat because I look such a prat  wearing it but this year I've put my vanity to one side and  started wearing one.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: dazmond on July 23, 2025, 12:58:04 pm
Admittedly it’s something I’ve not been very good at over the years, applying sunscreen. I’ve always been a bit of a sun worshipper, not anymore.

At 44 I’ve just had a large lesion cut out of my neck, 32 stitches and a nice 6 inch scar and a week or so off work. Suspected Basal Cell or Squamous Cell skin cancer., sent off for biopsy so it’s a 4-6 week wait on the results. This is the first of atleast 2 surgeries, the next one will require plastic surgery after removal.

If you’ve got any moles or lumps and bumps on your skin then get straight to your GP and insist you get looked at by a dermatologist. Early detection is vital.

And don’t forget your sunscreen and a sun protection hat.

Hopefully it's not spread to other organs....

My doctor told me never to go out in the sun over 25 years ago now but if I did to wear long pants and tops due to me having  a large proportion of moles....

Obviously I ignored him and told him I wasn't going to take his advice because I do an outside job....

I do wear sunscreen most of the time but I'm not gonna wear long pants and tops in this weather and I love my luxury,sunny holidays. I'll take my chances.

It would be impossible to check my moles because I have literally 100 of them!

I did have 2 off my neck around 20 years ago now but they didnt turn out to be cancerous luckily despite them bleeding and itchy.

Hope you'll make a full recovery mate. They have fantastic treatments for skin cancer these days.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: Slacky on July 23, 2025, 04:13:01 pm
Thanks for the heads up Deeege. 

Good luck with the future surgery, and the condition. I’ve just googled BCC, fortunately it usually isn’t as sinister as some types, good luck regardless.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: Stoots on July 23, 2025, 04:56:27 pm
All the best, i never wear it i cant stand the sticky stuff.

If its that hot that i feel im burning its time to go home.

I`ll wear it on hol if im off out all day in the sun or on the beach but i just tend to avoid best i can at home.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: NBwcs on July 23, 2025, 09:02:47 pm
All the best, i never wear it i cant stand the sticky stuff.

If its that hot that i feel im burning its time to go home.

I`ll wear it on hol if im off out all day in the sun or on the beach but i just tend to avoid best i can at home.



Going to sound like your dad here but that's massively irresponsible of you, I hope you don't have to regret it. We're exposed to the sun (and it doesn't have to be  scorching) for a very large part of our lives, it will be damaging your skin. I don't like slapping it on either but it just needs to be part of a routine you get into. I hope you reconsider.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: Tam1872 on July 24, 2025, 10:39:45 pm
I don't even wear the stuff when abroad, I don't seem to burn though.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: dazmond on July 25, 2025, 12:03:55 pm
All the best, i never wear it i cant stand the sticky stuff.

If its that hot that i feel im burning its time to go home.

I`ll wear it on hol if im off out all day in the sun or on the beach but i just tend to avoid best i can at home.



Going to sound like your dad here but that's massively irresponsible of you, I hope you don't have to regret it. We're exposed to the sun (and it doesn't have to be  scorching) for a very large part of our lives, it will be damaging your skin. I don't like slapping it on either but it just needs to be part of a routine you get into. I hope you reconsider.

Why are you bothered?

Adam can do what he likes.....loads of us have smoked,drank large amounts of alcohol and took many different street drugs but are still here healthy and happy.

One thing I've noticed in the 32 years of being a window cleaner is nothing surprises me anymore in how some of my customers have died...

One died of lung cancer and had never smoked in her life

Another customer (who  i was at school with) died of  a brain tumour at 46 and was a clean living,athletic woman who also had never smoked,drank to access or took any illegal drugs....

Sunscreen is not that effective anyway unless you smear tons of factor 50 on 3 or 4 times a day which none of us do....

Usually it's a case of factor 30 once in the morning then none for the rest of the day.

Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on July 25, 2025, 02:37:23 pm
Some good advice there Deeege.   I hope you get news you deserve.

I had a similar scare, having had miner surgery to remove the mole that went bad.   It was sent off for examination and came back all clear and innocent.   They said it was a good job they removed it as in time it could turn malignant. 

I now cover up, never where shorts, always wear long sleeved tops no matter how hot it is unless I'm on holiday.

Sunscreen every day, even if overcast.   Don't take risks chaps.  You'll regret it.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: Martin Lane on July 25, 2025, 06:13:00 pm
Had skin cancer removed twice from face, wear factor 50 sun cream, doctor told me if its warm enough to wear a t-shirt  you need sun cream on
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: Simon Trapani on July 25, 2025, 06:56:45 pm
All the best, i never wear it i cant stand the sticky stuff.

If its that hot that i feel im burning its time to go home.

I`ll wear it on hol if im off out all day in the sun or on the beach but i just tend to avoid best i can at home.



Going to sound like your dad here but that's massively irresponsible of you, I hope you don't have to regret it. We're exposed to the sun (and it doesn't have to be  scorching) for a very large part of our lives, it will be damaging your skin. I don't like slapping it on either but it just needs to be part of a routine you get into. I hope you reconsider.

Why are you bothered?

Adam can do what he likes.....loads of us have smoked,drank large amounts of alcohol and took many different street drugs but are still here healthy and happy.

One thing I've noticed in the 32 years of being a window cleaner is nothing surprises me anymore in how some of my customers have died...

One died of lung cancer and had never smoked in her life

Another customer (who  i was at school with) died of  a brain tumour at 46 and was a clean living,athletic woman who also had never smoked,drank to access or took any illegal drugs....

Sunscreen is not that effective anyway unless you smear tons of factor 50 on 3 or 4 times a day which none of us do....
Usually it's a case of factor 30 once in the morning then none for the rest of the day.

Grow up. You’re always gonna get exceptions to the rule ffs. But in general it’s good advice to wear sunscreen.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: dazmond on July 25, 2025, 07:34:41 pm
All the best, i never wear it i cant stand the sticky stuff.

If its that hot that i feel im burning its time to go home.

I`ll wear it on hol if im off out all day in the sun or on the beach but i just tend to avoid best i can at home.



Going to sound like your dad here but that's massively irresponsible of you, I hope you don't have to regret it. We're exposed to the sun (and it doesn't have to be  scorching) for a very large part of our lives, it will be damaging your skin. I don't like slapping it on either but it just needs to be part of a routine you get into. I hope you reconsider.

Why are you bothered?

Adam can do what he likes.....loads of us have smoked,drank large amounts of alcohol and took many different street drugs but are still here healthy and happy.

One thing I've noticed in the 32 years of being a window cleaner is nothing surprises me anymore in how some of my customers have died...

One died of lung cancer and had never smoked in her life

Another customer (who  i was at school with) died of  a brain tumour at 46 and was a clean living,athletic woman who also had never smoked,drank to access or took any illegal drugs....

Sunscreen is not that effective anyway unless you smear tons of factor 50 on 3 or 4 times a day which none of us do....
Usually it's a case of factor 30 once in the morning then none for the rest of the day.

Grow up. You’re always gonna get exceptions to the rule ffs. But in general it’s good advice to wear sunscreen.

I didn't say it wasn't but most of us don't put enough on or often enough according to the skin experts.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: dazmond on July 25, 2025, 07:41:54 pm
Some good advice there Deeege.   I hope you get news you deserve.

I had a similar scare, having had miner surgery to remove the mole that went bad.   It was sent off for examination and came back all clear and innocent.   They said it was a good job they removed it as in time it could turn malignant. 

I now cover up, never where shorts, always wear long sleeved tops no matter how hot it is unless I'm on holiday.

Sunscreen every day, even if overcast.   Don't take risks chaps.  You'll regret it.

I love a tan as most of us do and I do put suncream on most of the time but no way could I wear long pants and long sleeves in the hot weather we ve had the last 3 months. As a bodybuilder I look more defined with a light tan.

Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: deeege on July 25, 2025, 09:49:50 pm
Cheers fellas, recovery is going well, wound is healing nicely so far and getting better every day.
Just a month or so to wait now for the results. Also have another surgery booked in for early September, this one with a plastic surgeon as it’s a bit more complex, fun times.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: Slacky on July 26, 2025, 05:28:13 am
Some good advice there Deeege.   I hope you get news you deserve.

I had a similar scare, having had miner surgery to remove the mole that went bad.   It was sent off for examination and came back all clear and innocent.   They said it was a good job they removed it as in time it could turn malignant. 

I now cover up, never where shorts, always wear long sleeved tops no matter how hot it is unless I'm on holiday.

Sunscreen every day, even if overcast.   Don't take risks chaps.  You'll regret it.

I love a tan as most of us do and I do put suncream on most of the time but no way could I wear long pants and long sleeves in the hot weather we ve had the last 3 months. As a bodybuilder I look more defined with a light tan.

Some peeps aren’t as vain as you Daz.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: Simon Trapani on July 26, 2025, 07:31:54 am
I’m vain. And I like a tan. But I still wear sunscreen.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on July 26, 2025, 08:42:45 am
Don't shower for a month.  You'll look tanned just as good 🤣
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: NBwcs on July 26, 2025, 01:05:36 pm
"Why are you bothered"

 ::)roll


"Adam can do what he likes.....loads of us have smoked,drank large amounts of alcohol and took many different street drugs but are still here healthy and happy."

Make your mind up mate...talk about mixed messages... your always preaching about the evils of alcohol... you cant then turn round and use it as a tool to enforce "why are you bothered"
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: Stoots on July 26, 2025, 06:39:34 pm
Almost 50% of people will get cancer in their lifetime, i know suncream will help reduce the percentage but we are born naked, we are designed to be exposed to the sun, hiding from it seems like going too far. Dont get me wrong i will wear it if i feel im going to burn if its knocking on 30 degrees and i can really feel it or on hol exposed for a few hours....but that more because i dont want the pain of being burnt than worrying about skin cancer.

You cant hide from eveything in life just incase, be sensible of course no ones suggesting laying their for hours burning is clever but id rather just wear a wide brimmed hat and limit my exposure.
Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 26, 2025, 07:27:27 pm
Deege comes on here giving kindly sound advice about not forgetting sunscreen.

He then tells us about lesions he's had removed.

If you are a Muppet minimising his good and sound advice then do so in your own tiny mind. Not on here.

It's akin to not wearing seatbelt muppetry of the 80's and no problem using ladders muppetry of the 2000's.

Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: Stoots on July 27, 2025, 03:40:19 pm
Deege comes on here giving kindly sound advice about not forgetting sunscreen.

He then tells us about lesions he's had removed.

If you are a Muppet minimising his good and sound advice then do so in your own tiny mind. Not on here.

It's akin to not wearing seatbelt muppetry of the 80's and no problem using ladders muppetry of the 2000's.

Someones a miserable old git


No one is minimising his advice, its sound advice. Wearing sunscreen will reduce your risk of skin cancer of course it will, same as climbing a ladder will increase your risk of injury when cleaning  windows as you rightly point out.

But in the same token, going out on your motorbike increases your chance of an road traffic accident, are you a muppet for getting on your bike ?  Getting out of bed on a morning increases the chance i`ll fall down the stairs, its how far do you want to take it.

We all take risks everyday its an individual choice what level of risk you are willing to tolerate, why does anyone have to be a muppet, i couldnt care less what anyone else does or thinks tbh maybe if you think your opinion is gospel you are the one with the tiny mind.

Title: Re: Don’t forget your sunscreen fellas….
Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 27, 2025, 06:27:36 pm
Deege comes on here giving kindly sound advice about not forgetting sunscreen.

He then tells us about lesions he's had removed.

If you are a Muppet minimising his good and sound advice then do so in your own tiny mind. Not on here.

It's akin to not wearing seatbelt muppetry of the 80's and no problem using ladders muppetry of the 2000's.

Someones a miserable old git


No one is minimising his advice, its sound advice. Wearing sunscreen will reduce your risk of skin cancer of course it will, same as climbing a ladder will increase your risk of injury when cleaning  windows as you rightly point out.

But in the same token, going out on your motorbike increases your chance of an road traffic accident, are you a muppet for getting on your bike ?  Getting out of bed on a morning increases the chance i`ll fall down the stairs, its how far do you want to take it.

We all take risks everyday its an individual choice what level of risk you are willing to tolerate, why does anyone have to be a muppet, i couldnt care less what anyone else does or thinks tbh maybe if you think your opinion is gospel you are the one with the tiny mind.

Touched a nerve methinks.

 ;D

Go out on your motorbike by all means. Go out without gloves, in shorts and trainers and you're a Muppet. Wear the right gear and you reduce your risks.

Not least gravel rash and joint damage.