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Title: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on April 26, 2025, 01:23:39 pm
Mine only works when I plug it in. Apparently this is not usually the case. PureFreedom never even mentioned this in the description when I ordered it. I was not expecting a float valve either but I'm very happy this is installed too as it will save me overfilling my tank.

Is yours a powered RO system too?

Thanks in advance chaps
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on April 26, 2025, 01:25:29 pm
This is what I mean by powered....
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1745670318_Screenshot_20250426_132440_Photos.jpg)
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Ched on April 26, 2025, 02:16:17 pm
The reason it has to be plugged in is the shut off valve. If there is no power the shutoff valve is closed so no water goes in.

It is handy to have the shut off but it does need power. One thing to be careful of is that, as your float switch is 'balanced' in the tank filler it might get stuck and not shut off the water and flood the van!
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on April 26, 2025, 02:28:03 pm
The reason it has to be plugged in is the shut off valve. If there is no power the shutoff valve is closed so no water goes in.

It is handy to have the shut off but it does need power. One thing to be careful of is that, as your float switch is 'balanced' in the tank filler it might get stuck and not shut off the water and flood the van!

Thanks Ched. It's not like I'll be leaving it to purify my water overnight but the float switch works perfectly. As soon as the water level reaches the top of the float it rises up shutting off the water. The only thing is I better make sure the solenoid and wires on the RO are covered if it's raining.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: JandS on April 26, 2025, 03:30:37 pm
Only power mine requires is for booster pump.....does the shut off valve kick in when the float valve shuts off water to the tank so when you're full no water is running through the system?
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on April 26, 2025, 06:43:36 pm
Only power mine requires is for booster pump.....does the shut off valve kick in when the float valve shuts off water to the tank so when you're full no water is running through the system?

Yes
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Simon Trapani on April 27, 2025, 03:46:13 am
Ched is spot on.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on April 27, 2025, 08:46:45 am
I will probably buy one in the future so it would be great to hear how you get on with it?
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Ian Sheppard on May 01, 2025, 09:37:30 am
Ched is spot on.

The solenoid valves are Normally closed and only open when powered and the circuit in the solenoid is under power. As soon s power is removed the valve closes

Cheers
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 01, 2025, 06:37:04 pm
Just finished putting castors on RO base.👍🙂
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1746120999_Screenshot_20250501_183341_Photos.jpg)

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1746121012_Screenshot_20250501_183341_Photos.jpg)
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 01, 2025, 06:39:24 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1746121078_Screenshot_20250501_183331_Photos.jpg)
Perfect for wheeling out to back of van. Just gotta build a metal shed on Sunday to house it!😂
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 01, 2025, 06:43:02 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1746121325_Screenshot_20250501_184121_Photos.jpg)

Heavy duty castors(60kg payload) from B&Q.👍
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 01, 2025, 06:50:50 pm
I will probably buy one in the future so it would be great to hear how you get on with it?

I've only used it a few times as I'm using the resin left in my 2 x 25L vessels to fill up. DI vessels are currently coming out at 006 so I reckon one last fill tomorrow after work and it'll hit 010 so I'll chuck it away and use the RO exclusively from then on.

Hopefully it'll save me thousands of pounds over the next 5 years or so.👍
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: deeege on May 02, 2025, 01:45:24 pm
Why do you need to wheel it out to your van Daz? Mines fixed in the garage, I ran a water supply to it, surely that’s easier?
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: JandS on May 02, 2025, 03:20:10 pm
Was going to say same......mine's left in garage and just got enough hose to reach outside tap, drain and van inlet.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: CleanClear on May 02, 2025, 09:31:40 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1746121325_Screenshot_20250501_184121_Photos.jpg)

Heavy duty castors(60kg payload) from B&Q.👍


That looks real good mate, and them wheels look really sturdy. So you just wheel this out, plug the hoses in and then a few hours later its filled up your 500 litre tank ? I think thats pretty impressive. Well done.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on May 03, 2025, 07:10:41 am
Usually all the RO membranes I see lie horizontal but this one is vertical. Does it make any difference?
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Spruce on May 03, 2025, 07:14:36 am
Was going to say same......mine's left in garage and just got enough hose to reach outside tap, drain and van inlet.

The reason why is due to the float switch. The cable to the float switch from the solenoid valve isn't very long. It also carries a low voltage. The longer the cable the lower the voltage drop in the cable.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Spruce on May 03, 2025, 07:18:19 am
Usually all the RO membranes I see lie horizontal but this one is vertical. Does it make any difference?

No it doesn't matter. Mine is vertical.
However, pf have opted to put it upside down which I wouldn't have done. The inlet on my r/o is at the bottom and the outlets (pure and waste) are at the top.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Spruce on May 03, 2025, 07:25:21 am
Another thing dazmond needs to be cautious of is not to let the water drain out of the r/o when he is finished filling his van.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: deeege on May 03, 2025, 07:54:44 am
Was going to say same......mine's left in garage and just got enough hose to reach outside tap, drain and van inlet.

The reason why is due to the float switch. The cable to the float switch from the solenoid valve isn't very long. It also carries a low voltage. The longer the cable the lower the voltage drop in the cable.

Really? Sod that. I can look at my tank and know pretty much to 10 minutes accuracy how long it’s going to take to fill up. Couldn’t be bothered wheeling the RO to the van just incase of overfilling.

I just plug hose in, turn water on, hey siri set alarm for 90 minutes, away it goes.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 03, 2025, 08:19:42 am
Why do you need to wheel it out to your van Daz? Mines fixed in the garage, I ran a water supply to it, surely that’s easier?

No room in the garage. It's a workshop for curtain tracks,pelmets and other stuff for missus business. This is the best solution for me. There's room for a little metal shed that we are building tomorrow at side of garage to house the RO in. Gonna insulate it and I'll be able to run a cable for a heater on very cold nights.

The only thing is I'll have to cover RO with a large umbrella when filling van up after work on a rainy day.👍
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 03, 2025, 08:27:05 am
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1746121325_Screenshot_20250501_184121_Photos.jpg)

Heavy duty castors(60kg payload) from B&Q.👍


That looks real good mate, and them wheels look really sturdy. So you just wheel this out, plug the hoses in and then a few hours later its filled up your 500 litre tank ? I think thats pretty impressive. Well done.

Yes pal and tap and drain are just to the right of my van(and more importantly no water meter!)
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 03, 2025, 08:49:46 am
Another thing dazmond needs to be cautious of is not to let the water drain out of the r/o when he is finished filling his van.

The waste water drains out of the RO bottom hose and the other hose goes into my small DI then into my tank(pure). Obviously they both have to have no water in the hose dripping out when I'm putting it away after filling up. Will this dry up the membrane or will it be OK?
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 03, 2025, 08:54:00 am
Also as soon as the float valve activates(or I unplug  the power)the water stops running through the system. This will surely not dry up the membrane will it?
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Splash and dash on May 03, 2025, 09:17:23 am
Also as soon as the float valve activates(or I unplug  the power)the water stops running through the system. This will surely not dry up the membrane will it?


No it will be fine it would take weeks for the membrane todry out as it’s basically enclosed with little air getting into it
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dd on May 03, 2025, 05:03:42 pm
I would fit an on/off valve inline on the pipes from the RO to stop water draining from it when not in use, to keep the membranes fully enclosed in water.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Splash and dash on May 03, 2025, 05:14:14 pm
I would fit an on/off valve inline on the pipes from the RO to stop water draining from it when not in use, to keep the membranes fully enclosed in water.

Why ? They will remain damp for weeks hardly any air can get in them to dry them out
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 05, 2025, 07:42:23 pm
Tap tds 200
After RO 009
After DI 000

Very happy with this at the moment. It's taking around 4 hours to purify around  400-450L due to low water pressure(34 on the gauge).

Float switch works like a dream and shuts off at the neck of my tank hole.🙂👍

I can't remember who it was who gave me a good tip(to disconnect from DI vessel for the first couple of mins after turning on). Thanks mate as my tds was 102 out of the RO then falling to 009 after a min or 2 when I first switched it on. I also flushed for 10 mins first as I've not used the RO for 5 days.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 05, 2025, 07:46:23 pm
Built a little shed for it! Room for a heater too on freezing nights!😄
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1746470768_Screenshot_20250505_194435_Photos.jpg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1746470779_Screenshot_20250505_194422_Photos.jpg)
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on May 05, 2025, 08:40:31 pm
I would buy a big chain so I could chain it up when in there just in case. That's a 2 grand bit of equipment and it could easily go missing. Got to make it as hard as possible if anyone wants to pinch it.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 05, 2025, 11:02:19 pm
I would buy a big chain so I could chain it up when in there just in case. That's a 2 grand bit of equipment and it could easily go missing. Got to make it as hard as possible if anyone wants to pinch it.

3 vehicles on the drive so you can't just wheel it off the driveway,we and all the neighbours have CCTV and doorbell cameras,we also have dashcams.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 06, 2025, 06:41:42 am
I would buy a big chain so I could chain it up when in there just in case. That's a 2 grand bit of equipment and it could easily go missing. Got to make it as hard as possible if anyone wants to pinch it.

3 vehicles on the drive so you can't just wheel it off the driveway,we and all the neighbours have CCTV and doorbell cameras,we also have dashcams.

Don't be complacent Dazmondo.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on May 06, 2025, 07:05:22 am
I have some scaffold stored in my back garden and bought plenty of chains and expensive padlocks. I just chain them up to each group of different scaffold so someone can't just remove a piece. If benefits get cut and folk get desperate we will witness a rise in theft. The AGR frames are over £300 and they now fold in half only 8Kgs in weight so easy to walk away with. I have paid a grand for a 24hr camera with audio but if they even wear a mask it won't hold up in court. Got told that when I was a prison officer after the riots.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Always shining on May 06, 2025, 08:12:07 am
Dazmond - that four hours to fill is that without a booster pump then?
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 06, 2025, 08:18:38 am
Dazmond - that four hours to fill is that without a booster pump then?

Yes mate.👍
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dd on May 06, 2025, 08:54:37 am
Make sure you tuck it up with a duvet each night and read it a story.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 20, 2025, 02:46:53 pm
Not used RO for 12 days so gave it a flush for 10 mins then adjusted waste valve and took pure water hose off DI for a few mins. This is a tremendous tip that I'd never heard of before(until a few weeks ago).

Tap TDS 181
After RO 008

After RO for the first couple of mins it was reading 082!

After RO and DI 000

This little tip alone will save a resin change over the course of a year for sure!
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Simon Trapani on May 20, 2025, 05:37:18 pm
Not used RO for 12 days so gave it a flush for 10 mins then adjusted waste valve and took pure water hose off DI for a few mins. This is a tremendous tip that I'd never heard of before(until a few weeks ago).

Tap TDS 181
After RO 008

After RO for the first couple of mins it was reading 082!

After RO and DI 000

This little tip alone will save a resin change over the course of a year for sure!

I used to think this would save resin & I still use this method although I have JG tee pieces & taps to divert rather than disconnect hoses.

I do think however, that in my case & in the grand scheme of filling a 1000 litre ibc tank for six hours or so, that 60 to 90 seconds of high tds isn't going to make much difference. But like I say, I do still use that method unless I'm on holiday, in which case the RO is left switched on permanent with it's auto cut off booster & float valve as I wouldn't trust my employee with it as he knows nothing about pure water production.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 20, 2025, 06:19:50 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1747761278_Screenshot_20250520_181216_Photos.jpg)

Mobile RO system works great. I'm very happy with it. Float valve kicks in and shuts everything off after 4 hours.(my tank was virtually empty so around 460L purified in that time)

My water pressure is 34 on RO gauge but drops to 25 when running a bath.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 20, 2025, 06:24:38 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1747761696_Screenshot_20250520_181232_Photos.jpg)

So handy having outside tap and drain on the driveway(and even more importantly NO water meter!😃👍)
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dazmond on May 20, 2025, 06:37:48 pm
I think I'll just change the pre filters every 4 months just to be on the safe side and hopefully my axeon membrane will last many years...

Do most of you guys use 20" fibredyne filters as I think Spruce recommended them?

Thanks chaps 👍
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: windowswashed on May 20, 2025, 07:01:39 pm
I use fibredyne
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: dd on May 20, 2025, 10:41:43 pm
I think the fibredyne filters are supposed to last longer, check the spec.
Title: Re: Powered RO system...
Post by: Simon Trapani on May 20, 2025, 10:49:17 pm
Fibredyne’s can supposedly collapse if using a booster pump according to Gaps Water.