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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: AuRavelling79 on April 23, 2025, 12:59:18 pm
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Earlier today - 23rd April 2025 - Mrs. Gold (who does my books) and I listened to the HMRC Webinar about this.
If you have any input or questions, this is the place to discuss.
I hasten to add I am no expert but I can share along with others what we have found out and refer to the Q&A from the Webinar.
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MTD won't be too much of an issue for me personally - I'm VAT registered and therefore have everything in place already for quarterly returns.
However, Mrs S is self employed, she will need to up her bookkeeping game somewhat. She already uses SAGE so won't have too much more to do. We have sub-contractors who work with us, they are going to have to start using some kind of accounting software. I'm advising them to use XERO although that's entirely up to them.
I have had discussions with my accountant regarding this, he is under the impression that this is going to be a world of s*** for all small businesses operating under the VAT threshold. If you have an accountant I advise you to speak to them now, like right away. Today. If not then I suggest that you get yourself some accounting software and start using it.
It'll be much easier for you to learn how to use XERO or SAGE or whatever when you don't have the added pressure of a looming quarterly return to submit.
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Can you guys recommend what software to use. I have absolutely no idea what is best.
I’ve always done simple online tax returns and I don’t use any window cleaning software. I use my own ‘software’ for round scheduling etc.
I’ve been this way since starting at 18 years old. ;D
Be good to know what people recommend, and what is needed when the transition happens.
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I use sage but to be honest it's only because they were the only game in town when I started and I can't be arsed switching.
My accountant says Xero is the best bet. He says to stay away from QuickBooks.
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Can you guys recommend what software to use. I have absolutely no idea what is best.
I’ve always done simple online tax returns and I don’t use any window cleaning software. I use my own ‘software’ for round scheduling etc.
I’ve been this way since starting at 18 years old. ;D
Be good to know what people recommend, and what is needed when the transition happens.
How do you do your Tax return now?
I don't know which software to recommend. My wife and I will look at it over the weekend to see what we will do.
Some software options are free and there are over a dozen on the Government Website.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/find-software-thats-compatible-with-making-tax-digital-for-income-tax
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Earlier today - 23rd April 2025 - Mrs. Gold (who does my books) and I listened to the HMRC Webinar about this.
If you have any input or questions, this is the place to discuss.
I hasten to add I am no expert but I can share along with others what we have found out and refer to the Q&A from the Webinar.
How are the Turkish barbers going to cope?
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Earlier today - 23rd April 2025 - Mrs. Gold (who does my books) and I listened to the HMRC Webinar about this.
If you have any input or questions, this is the place to discuss.
I hasten to add I am no expert but I can share along with others what we have found out and refer to the Q&A from the Webinar.
How are the Turkish barbers going to cope?
Probably checking the thresholds carefully?
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For basic self-employed businesses in the UK, complying with Making Tax Digital (MTD) doesn’t require overly complex software. Here’s a list of simple, MTD-compatible options that are affordable or even free:
1. HMRC-Recognized MTD Software (Simple Options)
These are ideal for sole traders with straightforward finances:
1.1. 123 Sheets
Type: Spreadsheet-based
Best for: People comfortable with Excel
Pros: Very simple, affordable (around £25/year)
MTD-compliant: Yes
1.2. QuickFile
Type: Cloud accounting
Pros: Free for small users (under 1,000 ledger entries per year)
Good for: Invoicing, expenses, VAT returns
MTD-compliant: Yes
1.3. FreeAgent (Free with NatWest/RBS business accounts)
Pros: User-friendly, good support
Free if: You bank with NatWest, RBS or Mettle
MTD-compliant: Yes
1.4. QuickBooks Self-Employed
Type: App-based, very beginner-friendly
Good for: Mileage tracking, invoices, expenses
Cost: Around £8/month
MTD-compliant: Yes
1.5. Xero Starter
Type: Cloud-based
Best for: Slightly more advanced users
Cost: Around £15/month
MTD-compliant: Yes
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2. Bridging Software (If using spreadsheets)
If you want to keep using Excel, bridging software just connects your spreadsheet to HMRC for MTD VAT returns.
Examples:
VitalTax (Free add-on for Excel)
BTCSoftware
TaxCalc MTD for VAT
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Recommendation for simplicity:
If you're looking for ultra-simple and cheap, try:
123 Sheets (spreadsheet upload + MTD)
QuickFile (if you want cloud-based)
FreeAgent (if you bank with NatWest/RBS/Mettle)
if you're not VAT-registered and just need MTD for Income Tax Self Assessment (MTD for ITSA), then things are a bit simpler — but also a bit limited, since MTD for ITSA is still rolling out.
Here are simple, MTD ITSA-ready tools suitable for basic self-employed income (like sole traders, freelancers, etc.):
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1. FreeAgent
Best for: Simple bookkeeping + MTD ITSA
Free if: You bank with NatWest, RBS, or Mettle
Includes: Invoicing, expenses, bank feed, MTD-ready
MTD ITSA: Yes — one of the few already set up for it
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2. Untied
Designed for: Self-employed & gig workers
Mobile-first: Easy to use via app
MTD ITSA-ready: Yes
Free plan available: With limitations, paid from £1.50/mo
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3. 123 Sheets (Income Tax version)
Spreadsheet-based: If you like using Excel
Simple: Upload your income/expenses and submit
Cost: Around £30–£40/year
MTD ITSA-ready: Yes
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4. GoSimpleTax
For: Non-VAT self-employed
Interface: Like filling in a tax return, but easier
Cost: Around £50/year
MTD ITSA-ready: Yes
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Can you guys recommend what software to use. I have absolutely no idea what is best.
I’ve always done simple online tax returns and I don’t use any window cleaning software. I use my own ‘software’ for round scheduling etc.
I’ve been this way since starting at 18 years old. ;D
Be good to know what people recommend, and what is needed when the transition happens.
How do you do your Tax return now?
I don't know which software to recommend. My wife and I will look at it over the weekend to see what we will do.
Some software options are free and there are over a dozen on the Government Website.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/find-software-thats-compatible-with-making-tax-digital-for-income-tax
Self assessment, so easy.
All done on HMRC self assessment website.
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Rob Morgan is building a new software program called 'overture' which hopefully will be an all in one solution to many of us sole trader window cleaners who just want to input one lot of data then submit this quarterly straight to HMRC without bridging software or having to input 2 lots of data(like I would if I stick with cleaner planner).
MTD doesn't come into affect for me until April 2027 because I'm just under 50k a year(50k+ starts in April 2026)
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Don't over think it guys.
Most of us already keep records digitally on spreadsheets and databases anyway.
We just need to prepare it ready for quarterly totals for uploads to HMRC using a simple authorised software.
For us it's easy to keep digital outgoings but income for many small payments can be just totals....
under MTD for Income Tax, you can record income as daily, weekly, or monthly totals — as long as you’re doing it in digital format and your software supports it.
HMRC's guidance allows:
> “You can record totals of income and expenses daily, weekly or monthly — you don’t have to record every individual transaction.”
So if you receive multiple small payments, like:
10 sales in a day, or
50 payments through PayPal in a week
You don’t need to enter each one separately — you can just enter a daily or weekly total, as long as:
What’s required:
That total is recorded digitally (in software or spreadsheet)
It’s accurate and supported by backup (like your bank, PayPal, or Etsy report)
You keep those records in case HMRC ever asks for detail
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Examples:
Etsy seller: “Sales total – 3rd April – £186.23”
Cash-in-hand worker: “Weekly total – w/c 8th April – £400”
PayPal earnings: “Monthly PayPal income – March – £1,050”
Then at the end of each quarter, your software adds up all your income and submits a summary to HMRC — not every transaction
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Don't over think it guys.
Most of us already keep records digitally on spreadsheets and databases anyway.
We just need to prepare it ready for quarterly totals for uploads to HMRC using a simple authorised software.
For us it's easy to keep digital outgoings but income for many small payments can be just totals....
under MTD for Income Tax, you can record income as daily, weekly, or monthly totals — as long as you’re doing it in digital format and your software supports it.
HMRC's guidance allows:
> “You can record totals of income and expenses daily, weekly or monthly — you don’t have to record every individual transaction.”
So if you receive multiple small payments, like:
10 sales in a day, or
50 payments through PayPal in a week
You don’t need to enter each one separately — you can just enter a daily or weekly total, as long as:
What’s required:
That total is recorded digitally (in software or spreadsheet)
It’s accurate and supported by backup (like your bank, PayPal, or Etsy report)
You keep those records in case HMRC ever asks for detail
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Examples:
Etsy seller: “Sales total – 3rd April – £186.23”
Cash-in-hand worker: “Weekly total – w/c 8th April – £400”
PayPal earnings: “Monthly PayPal income – March – £1,050”
Then at the end of each quarter, your software adds up all your income and submits a summary to HMRC — not every transaction
That’s good info.
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Not really looked into it yet and not looking forward to it tbh. I'm a creature of habit, I've used the same "hingston" small accounts book since I started out and I'm very comfortable with it. I was rather hoping (naively) that it would mean just doing 4 mini tax returns on line instead of one, didn't realise I'd have to change to an on line accounting method as well. I'm just getting to be an old fart.
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My accountant reckons it's a prelude to quarterly tax payments, a few years down the line.
That'll be fun.
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My accountant reckons it's a prelude to quarterly tax payments, a few years down the line.
That'll be fun.
Actually that would be better than those estimated credit demands they send us. 🤣
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My accountant reckons it's a prelude to quarterly tax payments, a few years down the line.
That'll be fun.
MTD is being phased in depending on your turnover.
from April 2026, for those with qualifying income over £50,000
from April 2027, for those with qualifying income over £30,000
I too would bet that quarterly tax payments are on the way just like the way VAT payments work.
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My accountant reckons it's a prelude to quarterly tax payments, a few years down the line.
That'll be fun.
MTD is being phased in depending on your turnover.
from April 2026, for those with qualifying income over £50,000
from April 2027, for those with qualifying income over £30,000
I too would bet that quarterly tax payments are on the way just like the way VAT payments work.
50,000 profit or turnover?
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My accountant reckons it's a prelude to quarterly tax payments, a few years down the line.
That'll be fun.
MTD is being phased in depending on your turnover.
from April 2026, for those with qualifying income over £50,000
from April 2027, for those with qualifying income over £30,000
I too would bet that quarterly tax payments are on the way just like the way VAT payments work.
50,000 profit or turnover?
It's Turnover. gross profit..
For me when ready I will be using 123 sheets. Simple bridging spreadsheet costing £20 for the year.
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My accountant reckons it's a prelude to quarterly tax payments, a few years down the line.
That'll be fun.
MTD is being phased in depending on your turnover.
from April 2026, for those with qualifying income over £50,000
from April 2027, for those with qualifying income over £30,000
I too would bet that quarterly tax payments are on the way just like the way VAT payments work.
50,000 profit or turnover?
Turnover - not profit!
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My accountant reckons it's a prelude to quarterly tax payments, a few years down the line.
That'll be fun.
MTD is being phased in depending on your turnover.
from April 2026, for those with qualifying income over £50,000
from April 2027, for those with qualifying income over £30,000
I too would bet that quarterly tax payments are on the way just like the way VAT payments work.
50,000 profit or turnover?
It's Turnover. gross profit..
For me when ready I will be using 123 sheets. Simple bridging spreadsheet costing £20 for the year.
Will 123 sheets work with George do you think?
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My accountant reckons it's a prelude to quarterly tax payments, a few years down the line.
That'll be fun.
MTD is being phased in depending on your turnover.
from April 2026, for those with qualifying income over £50,000
from April 2027, for those with qualifying income over £30,000
I too would bet that quarterly tax payments are on the way just like the way VAT payments work.
50,000 profit or turnover?
It's Turnover. gross profit..
For me when ready I will be using 123 sheets. Simple bridging spreadsheet costing £20 for the year.
Will 123 sheets work with George do you think?
You cant use George to send the data to HMRC, that's why bridging software is needed like 123 sheets to do that job.
George like any other software is classed digital. It's just good bye to old fashioned paper and pen and paper storage.
Read the FAQ on 123 sheets page, they are really good.
If using George you will still need to make sure all expenses are kept separately and digitally stored instead of filed paper. I never use George for accounting anyway. I use a spreadsheet, I created, set up like a p&l recording all expenses. I then enter a total income onto my sheet each month from George.
I will just modify my spreadsheet so it also pulls calculated quarterly totals aswell. Then transfer those figures to 123 sheets . It's really simple.
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Don't over think it guys.
Most of us already keep records digitally on spreadsheets and databases anyway.
We just need to prepare it ready for quarterly totals for uploads to HMRC using a simple authorised software.
For us it's easy to keep digital outgoings but income for many small payments can be just totals....
under MTD for Income Tax, you can record income as daily, weekly, or monthly totals — as long as you’re doing it in digital format and your software supports it.
HMRC's guidance allows:
> “You can record totals of income and expenses daily, weekly or monthly — you don’t have to record every individual transaction.”
So if you receive multiple small payments, like:
10 sales in a day, or
50 payments through PayPal in a week
You don’t need to enter each one separately — you can just enter a daily or weekly total, as long as:
What’s required:
That total is recorded digitally (in software or spreadsheet)
It’s accurate and supported by backup (like your bank, PayPal, or Etsy report)
You keep those records in case HMRC ever asks for detail
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Examples:
Etsy seller: “Sales total – 3rd April – £186.23”
Cash-in-hand worker: “Weekly total – w/c 8th April – £400”
PayPal earnings: “Monthly PayPal income – March – £1,050”
Then at the end of each quarter, your software adds up all your income and submits a summary to HMRC — not every transaction
So basically I could just print off 3 monthly turnover and expenses total for that quarter on cleaner planner and input it into 3rd party software for HMRC?
Sounds pretty easy as I already keep a digital record of every payment,turnover,expense every day through my CP app on my phone. I wonder if they'll keep the cash basis accounting so it's only actual money in(payments)rather than jobs done(and some not paid)thats inputted?.I still keep receipts for everything to do with my business both digitally and paper receipts
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Don't over think it guys.
Most of us already keep records digitally on spreadsheets and databases anyway.
We just need to prepare it ready for quarterly totals for uploads to HMRC using a simple authorised software.
For us it's easy to keep digital outgoings but income for many small payments can be just totals....
under MTD for Income Tax, you can record income as daily, weekly, or monthly totals — as long as you’re doing it in digital format and your software supports it.
HMRC's guidance allows:
> “You can record totals of income and expenses daily, weekly or monthly — you don’t have to record every individual transaction.”
So if you receive multiple small payments, like:
10 sales in a day, or
50 payments through PayPal in a week
You don’t need to enter each one separately — you can just enter a daily or weekly total, as long as:
What’s required:
That total is recorded digitally (in software or spreadsheet)
It’s accurate and supported by backup (like your bank, PayPal, or Etsy report)
You keep those records in case HMRC ever asks for detail
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Examples:
Etsy seller: “Sales total – 3rd April – £186.23”
Cash-in-hand worker: “Weekly total – w/c 8th April – £400”
PayPal earnings: “Monthly PayPal income – March – £1,050”
Then at the end of each quarter, your software adds up all your income and submits a summary to HMRC — not every transaction
So basically I could just print off 3 monthly turnover and expenses total for that quarter on cleaner planner and input it into 3rd party software for HMRC?
Sounds pretty easy as I already keep a digital record of every payment,turnover,expense every day through my CP app on my phone. I wonder if they'll keep the cash basis accounting so it's only actual money in(payments)rather than jobs done(and some not paid)thats inputted?.I still keep receipts for everything to do with my business both digitally and paper receipts
Yes correct Daz. It's as simple as that.
That's why I'm just going to use the bridging software 123 sheets for that exact reason. On their website you can watch their video on how easy it works and can even try the demo out. You only need to use their template version as you have your own system in place.
All you need is total income for the quarter and total expenses if you select simplified accounting.
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So basically I just need to log in to my gateway account with my UTR number through 123 sheets software and submit basic turnover/expenses for that quarter 4 times a year with a final declaration at the end of January?(or April 5th)
Sounds pretty easy but it's obviously more admin(not just for me but for HMRC) and expense for what is a very simple straightforward business.
I don't understand why HMRC are changing the self assessment system as it works perfectly fine as it is(for me anyway).
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My accountant reckons it's a prelude to quarterly tax payments, a few years down the line.
That'll be fun.
MTD is being phased in depending on your turnover.
from April 2026, for those with qualifying income over £50,000
from April 2027, for those with qualifying income over £30,000
I too would bet that quarterly tax payments are on the way just like the way VAT payments work.
50,000 profit or turnover?
It's Turnover. gross profit..
For me when ready I will be using 123 sheets. Simple bridging spreadsheet costing £20 for the year.
Will 123 sheets work with George do you think?
You cant use George to send the data to HMRC, that's why bridging software is needed like 123 sheets to do that job.
George like any other software is classed digital. It's just good bye to old fashioned paper and pen and paper storage.
Read the FAQ on 123 sheets page, they are really good.
If using George you will still need to make sure all expenses are kept separately and digitally stored instead of filed paper. I never use George for accounting anyway. I use a spreadsheet, I created, set up like a p&l recording all expenses. I then enter a total income onto my sheet each month from George.
I will just modify my spreadsheet so it also pulls calculated quarterly totals aswell. Then transfer those figures to 123 sheets . It's really simple.
This is what I've done.
All my expenses are on a spread sheet which I have now put my running expenses into quarterly periods. At one time I just had two pages for each tax year. The first was capital expenses and the second was all my running cost expenses. Now those running cost expenses have 4 pages, one for each quarter and a 5th page putting all the totals for each quarter together.
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So basically I just need to log in to my gateway account with my UTR number through 123 sheets software and submit basic turnover/expenses for that quarter 4 times a year with a final declaration at the end of January?(or April 5th)
Sounds pretty easy but it's obviously more admin(not just for me but for HMRC) and expense for what is a very simple straightforward business.
I don't understand why HMRC are changing the self assessment system as it works perfectly fine as it is(for me anyway).
Yea it's causing a lot of stress for self employed businesses. The end of year final figures still have the same extended deadlines of 31 Jan. But I don't think they have finalised all that yet. Going forward they have said the Gateway system will be closed down.
We are lucky in our profession providing you're solo with no VAT. Most other businesses need accounting software to function. That's what quickbooks and some of the other apps are for. We don't need that because we need dedicated software to run our database and diary which incorporates accounting software. It's exactly the reason why bridging software is available to us.
It is a ball ache and a little more admin for us. But it could have been worse with all the poor information out there.
I wouldn't be surprised if they suspend it again as the first phase gets rolled out in 2026. It will be a confusing roll with issues. HMRC have not done a good job educating the masses.
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I was talking yesterday to Mark who has developed Squeegee, and he said they are intergrating MTD into there app as we speak. As they are already aproved for VAT.
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HMRC's guidance allows:
> “You can record totals of income and expenses daily, weekly or monthly — you don’t have to record every individual transaction.”
So if you receive multiple small payments, like:
10 sales in a day, or
50 payments through PayPal in a week
You don’t need to enter each one separately — you can just enter a daily or weekly total, as long as:
What’s required:
That total is recorded digitally (in software or spreadsheet)
It’s accurate and supported by backup (like your bank, PayPal, or Etsy report)
You keep those records in case HMRC ever asks for detail
---
Examples:
Etsy seller: “Sales total – 3rd April – £186.23”
Cash-in-hand worker: “Weekly total – w/c 8th April – £400”
PayPal earnings: “Monthly PayPal income – March – £1,050”
Then at the end of each quarter, your software adds up all your income and submits a summary to HMRC — not every transaction
I'm not saying you're wrong, but where are you getting this from as i can't seem to find it ? I get the opposite if i look on HMRC website ?
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It all depends on the MTD software that's being used to send quarterly figures to HMRC.
The information on HMRC website is so generic and poorly explained for certain situations and professions
All HMRC are interested in is Quarterly totals (income/expenses/profit) and the end of year tax return.
As for everything else, it just needs to be made available digitally if HMRC ever requests it. So everything will be recorded on your Window Cleaning Software you use.
It's no different from today's record keeping method, other than swapping out any old fashioned paper, pen, books and filing cabinets for digital storage.
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I’ve been using xero for a week now, getting to grips with it, but must say, I way prefer me old school way! It’ll take time to adjust.
Just a quick (perhaps dumb) question.
From April 2026, do we need to start making quarterly returns within that tax year? Or do we start making the quarterly returns in the next tax year?
Obviously at the moment we give a return from the previous tax year. We will now be giving quarterly returns from April 2026 for the April 2026 tax year? I.e these will be ‘live’ returns in the present tax year?
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I’ve been using xero for a week now, getting to grips with it, but must say, I way prefer me old school way! It’ll take time to adjust.
Just a quick (perhaps dumb) question.
From April 2026, do we need to start making quarterly returns within that tax year? Or do we start making the quarterly returns in the next tax year?
Obviously at the moment we give a return from gnr previous tax year. We will now be giving quarterly returns from April 2026 for the April 2026 tax year? I.e these will be ‘live’ returns in the present tax year?
I was just about to ask the same question zesty!
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They'll be returns for the current tax year.
You'll need to report apr26 to jun26 by the end of jul26
Hope that helps.
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They'll be returns for the current tax year.
You'll need to report apr26 to jun26 by the end of jul26
Hope that helps.
Ta 👍🏼
That’s interesting how they’re now going to almost realtime tax returns.
Any idea how it works when you make a big purchase in that first quarter? I.e you buy a new electric van in the first quarter, costing £35k. That will seem like a massive loss if it’s logged in that first quarter…
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They'll be returns for the current tax year.
You'll need to report apr26 to jun26 by the end of jul26
Hope that helps.
Ta
That’s interesting how they’re now going to almost realtime tax returns.
Any idea how it works when you make a big purchase in that first quarter? I.e you buy a new electric van in the first quarter, costing £35k. That will seem like a massive loss if it’s logged in that first quarter…
Not entirely sure to be honest, best speak to an accountant.
Purchases of assets are not included in profit loss statements. They are tax deductable but it's not as straightforward as an expense.
My accountant was highlighting this exact point - most of his clients don't account for asset purchases properly. He reckons the final yearly return is going to be a sh!tshow.
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The April 2026-april 2027 end of tax year returns are the same as usual dates. 31st Jan 2028. MTD.
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They'll be returns for the current tax year.
You'll need to report apr26 to jun26 by the end of jul26
Hope that helps.
Ta
That’s interesting how they’re now going to almost realtime tax returns.
Any idea how it works when you make a big purchase in that first quarter? I.e you buy a new electric van in the first quarter, costing £35k. That will seem like a massive loss if it’s logged in that first quarter…
Not entirely sure to be honest, best speak to an accountant.
Purchases of assets are not included in profit loss statements. They are tax deductable but it's not as straightforward as an expense.
My accountant was highlighting this exact point - most of his clients don't account for asset purchases properly. He reckons the final yearly return is going to be a sh!tshow.
That's why it's easier to lease your vans and just put the monthly rental as an expense instead of a large sum of money all at once.
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The April 2026-april 2027 end of tax year returns are the same as usual dates. 31st Jan 2028. MTD.
You sure?
If earning over £50k it says 2026 tax year?
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They'll be returns for the current tax year.
You'll need to report apr26 to jun26 by the end of jul26
Hope that helps.
Ta
That’s interesting how they’re now going to almost realtime tax returns.
Any idea how it works when you make a big purchase in that first quarter? I.e you buy a new electric van in the first quarter, costing £35k. That will seem like a massive loss if it’s logged in that first quarter…
Not entirely sure to be honest, best speak to an accountant.
Purchases of assets are not included in profit loss statements. They are tax deductable but it's not as straightforward as an expense.
My accountant was highlighting this exact point - most of his clients don't account for asset purchases properly. He reckons the final yearly return is going to be a sh!tshow.
That's why it's easier to lease your vans and just put the monthly rental as an expense instead of a large sum of money all at once.
It might be easier in terms of accountancy, probably not better financially though, especially if you aren’t VAT registered.
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The April 2026-april 2027 end of tax year returns are the same as usual dates. 31st Jan 2028. MTD.
You sure?
If earning over £50k it says 2026 tax year?
Yea just an example for the dates after someone asked the question for the end of year dates.
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I have used this for many years to file my accounts and they are working on MTD.
https://my.ftax.co.uk
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What if you are under £30,000 turnover.
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From 2028 it applies to everyone with 20k annual income and above.
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Just had a letter from HMRC.
They are basing the figures on my 24/25 year for turnover and any rental income combined.
I scrape under the mandatory 50k. I thought they were basing it on 23/24 where I was just over the 50k but no.
However I am going to voluntarily join up to get ahead of the game.
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Just had a letter from HMRC.
They are basing the figures on my 24/25 year for turnover and any rental income combined.
I scrape under the mandatory 50k. I thought they were basing it on 23/24 where I was just over the 50k but no.
However I am going to voluntarily join up to get ahead of the game.
So you’ve already filed your 24/25 tax year? Guessing that’s why you got a letter.
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Just had a letter from HMRC.
They are basing the figures on my 24/25 year for turnover and any rental income combined.
I scrape under the mandatory 50k. I thought they were basing it on 23/24 where I was just over the 50k but no.
However I am going to voluntarily join up to get ahead of the game.
So you’ve already filed your 24/25 tax year? Guessing that’s why you got a letter.
I never file until xmas/1st week of new year...
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Just had a letter from HMRC.
They are basing the figures on my 24/25 year for turnover and any rental income combined.
I scrape under the mandatory 50k. I thought they were basing it on 23/24 where I was just over the 50k but no.
However I am going to voluntarily join up to get ahead of the game.
So you’ve already filed your 24/25 tax year? Guessing that’s why you got a letter.
I never file until xmas/1st week of new year...
Same ;D