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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: james peters on January 22, 2025, 08:36:12 pm
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is your round really complete ?
no its not
that includes you daz
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Eh?
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very simple
is your round complete?
i know its not
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Window cleaning?
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Completed it mate.
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No such thing. As daz says "shifting sands".
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Mines complete at the end of each day.
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So what’s the point of this statement?
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So what’s the point of this statement?
Think he was on the pop last night.
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I was to tired to type ;D I have put the majority of my prices up over the past 2 months.
which initialy, i thought would be great, and it is much better, on the whole.
however, I have started not enjoying some the larger properties....and its made me realise i am just not charging enough on some of these.
and in fairness , it is just a handful out of hundreds
A good way to measure this is water usage..... eg
£35 house........... I can use the same amount of water as three £15 houses
I just find that the days I am doing lots of small semis , I take more with less effort, and use less water.
this isnt a moaning post..... its just an observation of some of MY work
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So what’s the point of this statement?
Think he was on the pop last night.
indeed i was
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I find the same. I have a day with all larger style houses in a upmarket village. On paper it’s only 15 or so houses . I am knackered at the end of that day with n empty tank . Days when the worksheet is three pages long ain’t as bad and can be by 1
I think the best paying days on my round are the £20-£25 town houses where there are 6 or more so from 1 spot. I say I’m full most of the time to new enquiries but I’ve always got room for 1 more of those sort of jobs
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is your round really complete ?
no its not
that includes you daz
All our rounds are built on shifting sands.....none of our rounds stay the same over time....
Customers come and go,some die or become too ill to be viable jobs anymore and they move house.
One thing I've found is more and more people who are moving onto estates I clean don't want a regular window cleaner,more chinese are moving into the areas I work and don't understand the need to pay for regular window cleaning. They want one offs when it suits them(usually before a big event in their lives).
The last 10 years or so my round has changed massively. I clean less properties but they are usually larger and priced better.Ive also dumped most awkward access jobs and any that require ladders....
I earn more on my larger property days than my estate compact stuff.
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is your round really complete ?
no its not
that includes you daz
All our rounds are built on shifting sands.....none of our rounds stay the same over time....
Customers come and go,some die or become too ill to be viable jobs anymore and they move house.
One thing I've found is more and more people who are moving onto estates I clean don't want a regular window cleaner,more chinese are moving into the areas I work and don't understand the need to pay for regular window cleaning. They want one offs when it suits them(usually before a big event in their lives).
The last 10 years or so my round has changed massively. I clean less properties but they are usually larger and priced better.Ive also dumped most awkward access jobs and any that require ladders....
I earn more on my larger property days than my estate compact stuff.
I digress my statement.. sounds like you have priced the larger properties well.
on the whole I am happy, its just a handful that I am not happy with. fortun ately , I have good priced properties next door or close by which carry these ones .
and of course the round changes , and so all new customers will be priced correctly
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I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.
I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.
You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
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I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.
I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.
You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
Shoulders burning and physically draining?I've not suffered symptoms like that since my early days of WFP with brodex poles or since I eased up on f/s/g cleaning.
I'm still young though(53).....I guess when I'm older like you Adam I might feel different?
I don't have any problems with the physicality of the job whether I'm smashing out a few larger properties a day or loads of smaller jobs....
You would hate my round then Adam as I have a lot of skylights,3 storey and extensions to pole over!
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I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.
I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.
You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
Shoulders burning and physically draining?I've not suffered symptoms like that since my early days of WFP with brodex poles or since I eased up on f/s/g cleaning.
I'm still young though(53).....I guess when I'm older like you Adam I might feel different?
I don't have any problems with the physicality of the job whether I'm smashing out a few larger properties a day or loads of smaller jobs....
You would hate my round then Adam as I have a lot of skylights,3 storey and extensions to pole over!
Hi Dazmond,
Happy new Year to you & Family, just a question, do you not take on as much F/S/G cleaning now, if regular customers enquire
about F/S/G cleaning, but your not interested in taking it on, what do you say to them ?
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I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.
I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.
You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
Shoulders burning and physically draining?I've not suffered symptoms like that since my early days of WFP with brodex poles or since I eased up on f/s/g cleaning.
I'm still young though(53).....I guess when I'm older like you Adam I might feel different?
I don't have any problems with the physicality of the job whether I'm smashing out a few larger properties a day or loads of smaller jobs....
You would hate my round then Adam as I have a lot of skylights,3 storey and extensions to pole over!
Hi Dazmond,
Happy new Year to you & Family, just a question, do you not take on as much F/S/G cleaning now, if regular customers enquire
about F/S/G cleaning, but your not interested in taking it on, what do you say to them ?
Yes I do take them on for regular customers but I space them out and not clean more than 1 or 2 in a day. I usually book them in next time I clean their windows.Occasionally I'll book them in separately on another day depending on my workload that week.
I don't take on add ons for non window cleaning customers anymore.
All the best Larry.🙂
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I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.
I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.
You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
Shoulders burning and physically draining?I've not suffered symptoms like that since my early days of WFP with brodex poles or since I eased up on f/s/g cleaning.
I'm still young though(53).....I guess when I'm older like you Adam I might feel different?
I don't have any problems with the physicality of the job whether I'm smashing out a few larger properties a day or loads of smaller jobs....
You would hate my round then Adam as I have a lot of skylights,3 storey and extensions to pole over!
Yes daz definitely more aches and pains on the more awkward windows.
My right elbow and wrist hurts pretty much all the time and wfp just makes it worse.
I'm not that old at 43 but I have worked in physical labour jobs since I left school. Everyone's body is different i guess, I drag myself out of bed, maybe it's arthritis or something dunno.
But either way I feel a lot better cleaning easy semis I would hate your round unless it was well priced enough for me to take my time.
Whilst I find I can make similar money on small and large houses on my round i definitely feel worse having a day of big uns.
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I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.
I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.
You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
Shoulders burning and physically draining?I've not suffered symptoms like that since my early days of WFP with brodex poles or since I eased up on f/s/g cleaning.
I'm still young though(53).....I guess when I'm older like you Adam I might feel different?
I don't have any problems with the physicality of the job whether I'm smashing out a few larger properties a day or loads of smaller jobs....
You would hate my round then Adam as I have a lot of skylights,3 storey and extensions to pole over!
Yes daz definitely more aches and pains on the more awkward windows.
My right elbow and wrist hurts pretty much all the time and wfp just makes it worse.
I'm not that old at 43 but I have worked in physical labour jobs since I left school. Everyone's body is different i guess, I drag myself out of bed, maybe it's arthritis or something dunno.
But either way I feel a lot better cleaning easy semis I would hate your round unless it was well priced enough for me to take my time.
Whilst I find I can make similar money on small and large houses on my round i definitely feel worse having a day of big uns.
Without a shadow of a doubt my 9 years of regular weight training in the gym 3 times a week (with no more than a week or 2 off training per year) has made a massive difference in how I feel physically day to day...
I was 44 when I started taking the gym and training seriously
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I dont like the larger houses on my round. I find that in the main they are underpriced per £minute compared to my smaller houses. Not only that but when they are bigger they have more awkward angles, higher windows, extensions, velux and connys etc.
I had a day last week in the better part of town where most of the houses are 3/4/5 bed detached with most of the above features to them. Need the 25ft pole on most of them, did maybe 15 houses in a day.....that day had the old shoulders burning and was more physically draining than the previous day which may have consisted of 20-25 semis pretty much all doable with an 18ft pole.
You cant beat nice easy semis that take 5 minutes a pop when compared to a detached that takes 20 minutes full stretch over an extension flopping around on some velux. The pain per minute is night and day.
Shoulders burning and physically draining?I've not suffered symptoms like that since my early days of WFP with brodex poles or since I eased up on f/s/g cleaning.
I'm still young though(53).....I guess when I'm older like you Adam I might feel different?
I don't have any problems with the physicality of the job whether I'm smashing out a few larger properties a day or loads of smaller jobs....
You would hate my round then Adam as I have a lot of skylights,3 storey and extensions to pole over!
Yes daz definitely more aches and pains on the more awkward windows.
My right elbow and wrist hurts pretty much all the time and wfp just makes it worse.
I'm not that old at 43 but I have worked in physical labour jobs since I left school. Everyone's body is different i guess, I drag myself out of bed, maybe it's arthritis or something dunno.
But either way I feel a lot better cleaning easy semis I would hate your round unless it was well priced enough for me to take my time.
Whilst I find I can make similar money on small and large houses on my round i definitely feel worse having a day of big uns.
Without a shadow of a doubt my 9 years of regular weight training in the gym 3 times a week (with no more than a week or 2 off training per year) has made a massive difference in how I feel physically day to day...
I was 44 when I started taking the gym and training seriously
Didn’t know you went the gym Daz, you never mentioned it…
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so lets shake it up a bit. lets say you are at the point of nearing retirement? you want to carry on, but only 12 to15 hours a week ?
you have to choose customers .... and lets just say for eg that you are over 60 .
do you choose to keep the small easy minimum payment jobs .. ie small semis .
or do you keep the larger jobs that require a 27 ft pole with velux etc.
also take into the consideration , cash payers or the banc transfers ?
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so lets shake it up a bit. lets say you are at the point of nearing retirement? you want to carry on, but only 12 to15 hours a week ?
you have to choose customers .... and lets just say for eg that you are over 60 .
do you choose to keep the small easy minimum payment jobs .. ie small semis .
or do you keep the larger jobs that require a 27 ft pole with velux etc.
also take into the consideration , cash payers or the banc transfers ?
Keep the highest paying hourly rate jobs regardless of what they are
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At 60 plus nearing retirement you want the easiest day possible sod the money at that age. That said the easiest work is likely to be the best paying as you'll clean it quicker and clean more of them.
A horrible job is still horrible no matter how much you get paid. Can earn good money on fsg for example but it isn't worth the pain for a few extra quid.
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Some people are just not suited to physical work. I honestly feel really good most of the time with a mixture of window cleaning,gym,drumming and walking the dog along with a few basic yoga stretching exercises every morning...
The 4 pillars to good health IMO are....
1.good diet
2.sleep(min 7 hours a night for me)
3.weight training 3 times a week
4.keeping stress down to a minimum if possible through yoga/meditation,walking,doing a hobby you really like,paying bills on time and relaxing without having to drink alcohol.
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At 60 plus nearing retirement you want the easiest day possible sod the money at that age. That said the easiest work is likely to be the best paying as you'll clean it quicker and clean more of them.
A horrible job is still horrible no matter how much you get paid. Can earn good money on fsg for example but it isn't worth the pain for a few extra quid.
Ime 62 and still do full time hours on the tools and that’s my choice I want to do it I don’t have to do it that’s what staff are for but I won’t ask them to do jobs ime not prepared to do myself , not keen on doing 65 feet high work but still do it same as always , listening to ones on here complaining about doing 3 storey town houses makes me laugh what a bunch of wimps . Again gfs cleans are a breeze I don’t know what you are all winging about , if ones don’t want to do it that’s fine but it’s not hard work ,all add ion jobs and big houses should be priced accordingly a big 5,6 bed detached needs to be 2-3 times the price of semi if not more then you are earning more per hour as you are already there working so a big house doesn’t take 3 times as long to do . I have never been one to go to the gym and can easily do all theses jobs and I am not some kind of super fit person . Yes it gets harder as you get older and I have arthritis in my knees and elbows but I find work keeps me supple . I dread to think what some are going to be like when they get to 55 years old if they can’t do this when they are younger
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Do you think Lee Pryor looked at this topic and scratched his chin ? ;D
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;D ;D ;D
Do you think Lee Pryor looked at this topic and scratched his chin ? ;D
NO ... I think he read it and thought about it
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The ones that claim bigger houses are just as easy as smaller ones must be taking their time and cruising along. Try working hard and fast and you'll notice a big difference in strain on the body and fatigue.
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;D ;D ;D
Do you think Lee Pryor looked at this topic and scratched his chin ? ;D
NO ... I think he read it and thought about it
Expand more....... what do you think he thought ? ;D
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;D ;D ;D
Do you think Lee Pryor looked at this topic and scratched his chin ? ;D
NO ... I think he read it and thought about it
Expand more....... what do you think he thought ? ;D
he probably thought his chin needed scratching ;D
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Some people are just not suited to physical work. I honestly feel really good most of the time with a mixture of window cleaning,gym,drumming and walking the dog along with a few basic yoga stretching exercises every morning...
The 4 pillars to good health IMO are....
1.good diet
2.sleep(min 7 hours a night for me)
3.weight training 3 times a week
4.keeping stress down to a minimum if possible through yoga/meditation,walking,doing a hobby you really like,paying bills on time and relaxing without having to drink alcohol.
You're an inspiration Daz!
You forgot to mention ...
5. Loads of holidays
6. A fit burd
7. Drumming
;D
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The ones that claim bigger houses are just as easy as smaller ones must be taking their time and cruising along. Try working hard and fast and you'll notice a big difference in strain on the body and fatigue.
I work at a brisk pace and im no slouch but I'm not rushing around at hundred miles an hour as it's not efficient past a certain point
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Some people are just not suited to physical work. I honestly feel really good most of the time with a mixture of window cleaning,gym,drumming and walking the dog along with a few basic yoga stretching exercises every morning...
The 4 pillars to good health IMO are....
1.good diet
2.sleep(min 7 hours a night for me)
3.weight training 3 times a week
4.keeping stress down to a minimum if possible through yoga/meditation,walking,doing a hobby you really like,paying bills on time and relaxing without having to drink alcohol.
You're an inspiration Daz!
You forgot to mention ...
5. Loads of holidays
6. A fit burd
7. Drumming
;D
8. Bean bath.
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The ones that claim bigger houses are just as easy as smaller ones must be taking their time and cruising along. Try working hard and fast and you'll notice a big difference in strain on the body and fatigue.
You can train your body in all sorts of ways to make it stronger and more resilient to a certain point (over a long period of time)
You can also make work easier for yourself by investing in a decent electric reel,hot water and xtreme poles
Technique too(rinsing brush on at awkward angles/height,etc),using a high flow and using a body rocking motion instead of your arms on large,high skylights. Not gripping your pole too tight is another.....
All these little things add up over time and really help your working day.
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Well my 10m long fence came down and so did many others on the street. Roof tiles off and damaged a car then some hut roofs disappeared. I'm going to be pretty busy now but its an ill wind.
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Well my 10m long fence came down and so did many others on the street. Roof tiles off and damaged a car then some hut roofs disappeared. I'm going to be pretty busy now but its an ill wind.
You fixing the car too?
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The ones that claim bigger houses are just as easy as smaller ones must be taking their time and cruising along. Try working hard and fast and you'll notice a big difference in strain on the body and fatigue.
You can train your body in all sorts of ways to make it stronger and more resilient to a certain point (over a long period of time)
You can also make work easier for yourself by investing in a decent electric reel,hot water and xtreme poles
Technique too(rinsing brush on at awkward angles/height,etc),using a high flow and using a body rocking motion instead of your arms on large,high skylights. Not gripping your pole too tight is another.....
All these little things add up over time and really help your working day.
And of course - reinforced pole hose on your reel. ;D