Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: richard connett on January 19, 2025, 03:56:07 pm
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So I’ve decided to get with the times and get a transit custom from vantrader , two or three years old . Plus all the bells and whistles hot water/electric reel etc from grippa . I’m thinking it can be done for £25000
Before I pull the trigger do you guys recommend a better company than grippa. I’ve always installed it myself up till now.
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Is this on a whim ? ;D
Sounds good until you have to pay for it.
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Ahh poop it was a whim ! Didn’t think I’d have to pay for it
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So I’ve decided to get with the times and get a transit custom from vantrader , two or three years old . Plus all the bells and whistles hot water/electric reel etc from grippa . I’m thinking it can be done for £25000
Before I pull the trigger do you guys recommend a better company than grippa. I’ve always installed it myself up till now.
Be very cautious of spending that kind of money with Grippatank , customer services extremely poor
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Ok thanks . I have heard this before . Who do you use?
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Ok thanks . I have heard this before . Who do you use?
If you have £25k to spend on a two man system i'd be looking at Ionics, they might be able to do one for that price. Be prepared to haggle though. Then all you gotta add is the van.
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🤣🤣🤣
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I’m not spending £25000 on a system . I was hoping that would include the van. Can you not get a system for 10 grand ?
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Thanks for the reply’s but this is hard work . Surely somebody can recommend a van system supplier .
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If your current van can keep you going until spring plan your new set up from then into summer, will be easier than mid winter. Get best van you can find for your money, then perhaps a 700 litre Pure20 system , hose reel and heater from Prefredom
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Thanks for the reply’s but this is hard work . Surely somebody can recommend a van system supplier .
If you want to keep everyones family and friends safe you really need a crash tested system. Otherwise you will be potentially risking peoples lives.
Ionics offer stuff like this, i think its cheap, i mean what price peace of mind and safety ?
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1737313681_Screenshot at 2025-01-19 17-11-57.png)
But if that seems a bit steep, and should you decide to be a bit of a skinflint and prioritise your wallet over peoples safety, they do offer a mirror service with some sort of mirror company that does the same stuff a bit cheaper :
https://www.pure2o.co.uk/product/hydros-system/
The beauty of this one is that not only is it crash tested , thereby making everyone safe it also protects your childrens inheritance in as much as you havn't had to take out a second mortgage to buy a van fit for work.
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I would look at the systems from cleaning warehouse in Wolverhampton...
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I would look at the systems from cleaning warehouse in Wolverhampton...
Too cheap.
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I would look at the systems from cleaning warehouse in Wolverhampton...
Too cheap.
Pure waters, pure water, does the job.
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Ok thanks . I have heard this before . Who do you use?
Ionics do refurbished systems second hand they are much better value for money see if they have anything that might be suitable for you . Many say pure freedom systems are good not personally had one though .
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I would look at the systems from cleaning warehouse in Wolverhampton...
Too cheap.
Pure waters, pure water, does the job.
Its not just that mate, its the quality. Anyone who knows about plastics will know that not all plastic tanks are equal. You feel the cheap ones and you can just tell. When you feel the quality of a proper fitted system you'll just know. Its hard to explain. Plus , also they use proper genuine Shurflo pumps etc... not the Generic Shurflo pumps you can just get off Ebay or general window cleaning suppliers generally. Again , when you know about the difference in quality its something you just come to appreciate.
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I would look at the systems from cleaning warehouse in Wolverhampton...
Too cheap.
Pure waters, pure water, does the job.
Its not just that mate, its the quality. Anyone who knows about plastics will know that not all plastic tanks are equal. You feel the cheap ones and you can just tell. When you feel the quality of a proper fitted system you'll just know. Its hard to explain. Plus , also they use proper genuine Shurflo pumps etc... not the Generic Shurflo pumps you can just get off Ebay or general window cleaning suppliers generally. Again , when you know about the difference in quality its something you just come to appreciate.
Ionics don’t use sureflow pumps they are aquatec pumps with ionics labels on them or at least they were the last time I looked
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I would look at the systems from cleaning warehouse in Wolverhampton...
Too cheap.
Pure waters, pure water, does the job.
Its not just that mate, its the quality. Anyone who knows about plastics will know that not all plastic tanks are equal. You feel the cheap ones and you can just tell. When you feel the quality of a proper fitted system you'll just know. Its hard to explain. Plus , also they use proper genuine Shurflo pumps etc... not the Generic Shurflo pumps you can just get off Ebay or general window cleaning suppliers generally. Again , when you know about the difference in quality its something you just come to appreciate.
I have had the same tank for over 10 years from them no problems.
And i know several people that have had no issues with their systems.
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I would look at the systems from cleaning warehouse in Wolverhampton...
Too cheap.
Pure waters, pure water, does the job.
Its not just that mate, its the quality. Anyone who knows about plastics will know that not all plastic tanks are equal. You feel the cheap ones and you can just tell. When you feel the quality of a proper fitted system you'll just know. Its hard to explain. Plus , also they use proper genuine Shurflo pumps etc... not the Generic Shurflo pumps you can just get off Ebay or general window cleaning suppliers generally. Again , when you know about the difference in quality its something you just come to appreciate.
I have had the same tank for over 10 years from them no problems.
And i know several people that have had no issues with their systems.
People used to say that about their tyres. We all know nothing lasts forever, if your tank is over 10 years old you really need to get that checked for safety if nothing else.
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I would look at the systems from cleaning warehouse in Wolverhampton...
Too cheap.
Pure waters, pure water, does the job.
Its not just that mate, its the quality. Anyone who knows about plastics will know that not all plastic tanks are equal. You feel the cheap ones and you can just tell. When you feel the quality of a proper fitted system you'll just know. Its hard to explain. Plus , also they use proper genuine Shurflo pumps etc... not the Generic Shurflo pumps you can just get off Ebay or general window cleaning suppliers generally. Again , when you know about the difference in quality its something you just come to appreciate.
Ionics don’t use sureflow pumps they are aquatec pumps with ionics labels on them or at least they were the last time I looked
I think your right mate. It might of been the label that confused me, but i think its fair to point out.... Ionics don't make pumps. Are the Aquatec ones safe do you know ?
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“Here fishy, fishy, fishy….”
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People just like chucking money away. Love CleanClear's comment about tank plastic quality!
How has my self fitted Wyedale tank lasted for 13 years in my 13 year old van with its 13 year old immersion heater?
I've got much better things to spend £25k plus on than a new van and system.
;D
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So I’ve decided to get with the times and get a transit custom from vantrader , two or three years old . Plus all the bells and whistles hot water/electric reel etc from grippa . I’m thinking it can be done for £25000
Before I pull the trigger do you guys recommend a better company than grippa. I’ve always installed it myself up till now.
Grippatank for system. It'll be a difficult job trying to fit a diesel hot water system yourself
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Think this is gonna be another cleanitup special very very long talking b******s thread🤣🤣I’ll go get the popcorn now🤣🤣
25k on a system ffs🤣
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Think this is gonna be another cleanitup special very very long talking b******s thread🤣🤣I’ll go get the popcorn now🤣🤣
25k on a system ffs🤣
He did say 25 k including the van that’s not excessive
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Love CleanClear's comment about tank plastic quality!
I'll take that as a massive compliment, as generally if i say summat i know you won't like it ! ;D
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Lets be real here guys, everyone is assuming and guessing but no one really knows the facts about securing (pardon the pun) for your self and your employees and 100% crash tested safe system. Ionics have online facilities to talk to them and find out from the horses mouth and not guessing from any nonsense we saying here ...............
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1737321625_Screenshot at 2025-01-19 17-12-35.png)
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“Here fishy, fishy, fishy….”
Funny for loads of reasons.
Not a one has really popped up to tell him otherwise have they ?
He's never thought or realised to go back to the supplier of the system he has now ?
I could go on... i'd send Scottishs Mick to sleep !!! ;D
And thats even if i could spell Scottish !!! ;D
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I would look at the systems from cleaning warehouse in Wolverhampton...
Too cheap.
Pure waters, pure water, does the job.
Its not just that mate, its the quality. Anyone who knows about plastics will know that not all plastic tanks are equal. You feel the cheap ones and you can just tell. When you feel the quality of a proper fitted system you'll just know. Its hard to explain. Plus , also they use proper genuine Shurflo pumps etc... not the Generic Shurflo pumps you can just get off Ebay or general window cleaning suppliers generally. Again , when you know about the difference in quality its something you just come to appreciate.
I have had the same tank for over 10 years from them no problems.
And i know several people that have had no issues with their systems.
People used to say that about their tyres. We all know nothing lasts forever, if your tank is over 10 years old you really need to get that checked for safety if nothing else.
Check what? It's a plastic water tank...no splits ;D
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Im just utterly gobsmacked that anyone would consider spending 38.5 k thats 45k + incl vat on a system :o. in the real world, not the CIU willy waving world, a hell of alot of wc wont get anywhere near that amount of money in terms of turnover in a year! Back in the day when the wahd came in, van systems were considered the last resort, only for people who didn't have access to a garage or shed. The world of marketing by wc suppliers seems to have taken over and newbies are being lulled into sense that "sexy looking set ups" are a necessity. 45k is a big step towards moving towards somewhere that does have a garage or shed.! I went on a government hmrc business course years ago and the very 1st thing they preached was the very core principals of any business.. ie.. keep your outgoings as cheap as possible and your incomings as high as possible. No body needs to spend that sort of money on a van system even if a van system is your only option.
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Im just utterly gobsmacked that anyone would consider spending 38.5 k thats 45k + incl vat on a system :o. in the real world, not the CIU willy waving world, a hell of alot of wc wont get anywhere near that amount of money in terms of turnover in a year! Back in the day when the wahd came in, van systems were considered the last resort, only for people who didn't have access to a garage or shed. The world of marketing by wc suppliers seems to have taken over and newbies are being lulled into sense that "sexy looking set ups" are a necessity. 45k is a big step towards moving towards somewhere that does have a garage or shed.! I went on a government hmrc business course years ago and the very 1st thing they preached was the very core principals of any business.. ie.. keep your outgoings as cheap as possible and your incomings as high as possible. No body needs to spend that sort of money on a van system even if a van system is your only option.
Have you been drinking?
The OP said 25k for van and system which I think is reasonable if your planning on being a window cleaner for quite a few years and you want a reliable van that your not changing every few years....
He can do what he wants it's his business and money!
I don't regret one bit getting a brand new van and hot system. It makes my working days easier and more comfortable. The heated drivers seat is lovely in the winter months and the hot water system🔥 and electric reel just helps my day along!🙂👍
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“Here fishy, fishy, fishy….”
And you just wait for the next... "how do i grow my business " ? Post ;D
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Have you been drinking?
Why do you ask this in a sort of put down scenario ? You've a car and van worth more than the flat you live in.
And whats wrong with drinking ?
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Love CleanClear's comment about tank plastic quality!
I'll take that as a massive compliment, as generally if i say summat i know you won't like it ! ;D
Try reading beyond paragraph one ... ;D
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Im just utterly gobsmacked that anyone would consider spending 38.5 k thats 45k + incl vat on a system :o. in the real world, not the CIU willy waving world, a hell of alot of wc wont get anywhere near that amount of money in terms of turnover in a year! Back in the day when the wahd came in, van systems were considered the last resort, only for people who didn't have access to a garage or shed. The world of marketing by wc suppliers seems to have taken over and newbies are being lulled into sense that "sexy looking set ups" are a necessity. 45k is a big step towards moving towards somewhere that does have a garage or shed.! I went on a government hmrc business course years ago and the very 1st thing they preached was the very core principals of any business.. ie.. keep your outgoings as cheap as possible and your incomings as high as possible. No body needs to spend that sort of money on a van system even if a van system is your only option.
Sense at last! Bang on.
What an utterly bizarre thread!🤔
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Love CleanClear's comment about tank plastic quality!
I'll take that as a massive compliment, as generally if i say summat i know you won't like it ! ;D
Try reading beyond paragraph one ... ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1737327267_GhDsTy1WAAA-Rh-.jpeg)
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Im just utterly gobsmacked that anyone would consider spending 38.5 k thats 45k + incl vat on a system :o. in the real world, not the CIU willy waving world, a hell of alot of wc wont get anywhere near that amount of money in terms of turnover in a year! Back in the day when the wahd came in, van systems were considered the last resort, only for people who didn't have access to a garage or shed. The world of marketing by wc suppliers seems to have taken over and newbies are being lulled into sense that "sexy looking set ups" are a necessity. 45k is a big step towards moving towards somewhere that does have a garage or shed.! I went on a government hmrc business course years ago and the very 1st thing they preached was the very core principals of any business.. ie.. keep your outgoings as cheap as possible and your incomings as high as possible. No body needs to spend that sort of money on a van system even if a van system is your only option.
Have you been drinking?
The OP said 25k for van and system which I think is reasonable if your planning on being a window cleaner for quite a few years and you want a reliable van that your not changing every few years....
He can do what he wants it's his business and money!
I don't regret one bit getting a brand new van and hot system. It makes my working days easier and more comfortable. The heated drivers seat is lovely in the winter months and the hot water system🔥 and electric reel just helps my day along!🙂👍
I was clearly refering to the Ionics advert see reply#10
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What an utterly bizarre thread!🤔
Thats odd, i'm loving it ;D
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I was clearly refering to the Ionics advert see reply#9
I could see that too mate, and if you wanna have a drink then you have a drink. Don't let him tell you off for it.
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I was clearly refering to the Ionics advert see reply#9
I could see that too mate, and if you wanna have a drink then you have a drink. Don't let him tell you off for it.
:) Ive corrected my thread now it was reply #10. A nightcap sounds like a good idea.
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Get Ionic or Pure2o (a brand of Ionic).
They’re top-notch systems and superb quality. I’ve had mine for nearly 8 years, and just had it moved from my old van into a new van.
Bear in mind that insurers are starting to refuse cover for vans with non crash tested systems in them. See that other thread, the one that got that winpro fella all hot and bothered.
You could spend a whole load of cash and then find it’s a useless system because you can’t get motor insurance to drive it!
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Get Ionic or Pure2o (a brand of Ionic).
They’re top-notch systems and superb quality. I’ve had mine for nearly 8 years, and just had it moved from my old van into a new van.
Bear in mind that insurers are starting to refuse cover for vans with non crash tested systems in them. See that other thread, the one that got that winpro fella all hot and bothered.
You could spend a whole load of cash and then find it’s a useless system because you can’t get motor insurance to drive it!
Whole load of cash?
Here's my system- tank, pump, controller and 2 x Di vessels. About a grand all in, and barely missed a beat in over 20 years!
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Blimey !!
I guess everybody is running around in a 20 year old berlingo with an ibc strapped down in the back then!
My budget is £25000 for van and system. It won’t be a new van just one that fingers crossed won’t give me any grief for years to come.
I’m currently running two old vans , manual reels and cold water. It’s done me proud but the vans are costing me on average £2000 a year to keep on the road. My wife runs one of the vans and she will be reducing her hours soon and working with me so it makes good sense to have a nice new van for us both with all the mod cons . It’s tax deductible too obviously
I posted on this group and not one of the others ( no names mentioned) because I thought there was more experienced windies on here and over the years I’ve picked up a lot of knowledge. Who’d have thought just asking for a good system supplier would generate so much crap!
Anyways thanks for those who posted serious reply’s . I’m edging towards grippa and pure freedom so will see what the quotes come back like
Peace
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Blimey !!
I guess everybody is running around in a 20 year old berlingo with an ibc strapped down in the back then!
My budget is £25000 for tank and system. It won’t be a new van just one that fingers crossed won’t give me any grief for years to come.
I’m currently running two old vans , manual reels and cold water. It’s done me proud but the vans are costing me on average £2000 a year to keep on the road. My wife runs one of the vans and she will be reducing her hours soon and working with me so it makes good sense to have a nice new van for us both with all the mod cons . It’s tax deductible too obviously
I posted on this group and not one of the others ( no names mentioned) because I thought there was more experienced windies on here and over the years I’ve picked up a lot of knowledge. Who’d have thought just asking for a good system supplier would generate so much crap!
Anyways thanks for those who posted serious reply’s . I’m edging towards grippa and pure freedom so will see what the quotes come back like
Peace
Knock yaself out Richard. At the end of the day, all you require is to get pure water to the brush. It can cost 1k or 20k, which one you choose is entirely your thing! As long as you're happy with what you got and what you spend, who cares?👍
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Agreed, just asking if people had some suggestions for suppliers/fitters
Too much to ask obviously
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We've been using The Cleaning Warehouse in Wolverhampton for almost 20 years without any issues. In that time we've bought three van mounted systems fitted by them plus other bits and pieces but not poles we use Gardiners mainly for those. Our two vans are a 11 plate Dispatch with 164,000 on clock and a 11 plate Partner with similar miles. Both vans serviced often.
In my view turning up in a brand new van tells a story that the person charges too much for his service. Just my opinion guys.
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Remember if you go for a pure freedom hot system they don't integrate into vans diesel tank. It's a separate tank in the back.
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Remember if you go for a pure freedom hot system they don't integrate into vans diesel tank. It's a separate tank in the back.
Which will come in handy when you buy that electric vehicle🤣
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Blimey !!
I guess everybody is running around in a 20 year old berlingo with an ibc strapped down in the back then!
My budget is £25000 for van and system. It won’t be a new van just one that fingers crossed won’t give me any grief for years to come.
I’m currently running two old vans , manual reels and cold water. It’s done me proud but the vans are costing me on average £2000 a year to keep on the road. My wife runs one of the vans and she will be reducing her hours soon and working with me so it makes good sense to have a nice new van for us both with all the mod cons . It’s tax deductible too obviously
I posted on this group and not one of the others ( no names mentioned) because I thought there was more experienced windies on here and over the years I’ve picked up a lot of knowledge. Who’d have thought just asking for a good system supplier would generate so much crap!
Anyways thanks for those who posted serious reply’s . I’m edging towards grippa and pure freedom so will see what the quotes come back like
Peace
Personally I think the tanks Grippa fit are better. I think Pure Freedom just fit Wydale tanks, I don't think they are cheap either.
Grippa also have inlet/outlet ports fitted to their tanks which give option for flexibility if you want to change anything in future.
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Im just utterly gobsmacked that anyone would consider spending 38.5 k thats 45k + incl vat on a system :o. in the real world, not the CIU willy waving world, a hell of alot of wc wont get anywhere near that amount of money in terms of turnover in a year! Back in the day when the wahd came in, van systems were considered the last resort, only for people who didn't have access to a garage or shed. The world of marketing by wc suppliers seems to have taken over and newbies are being lulled into sense that "sexy looking set ups" are a necessity. 45k is a big step towards moving towards somewhere that does have a garage or shed.! I went on a government hmrc business course years ago and the very 1st thing they preached was the very core principals of any business.. ie.. keep your outgoings as cheap as possible and your incomings as high as possible. No body needs to spend that sort of money on a van system even if a van system is your only option.
Have you been drinking?
The OP said 25k for van and system which I think is reasonable if your planning on being a window cleaner for quite a few years and you want a reliable van that your not changing every few years....
He can do what he wants it's his business and money!
I don't regret one bit getting a brand new van and hot system. It makes my working days easier and more comfortable. The heated drivers seat is lovely in the winter months and the hot water system🔥 and electric reel just helps my day along!🙂👍
Heated seats, hot water, fit bird, drum kit, 5* holidays, baked beans. Have I missed anything out? 😂 its every other post he puts up.
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Im just utterly gobsmacked that anyone would consider spending 38.5 k thats 45k + incl vat on a system :o. in the real world, not the CIU willy waving world, a hell of alot of wc wont get anywhere near that amount of money in terms of turnover in a year! Back in the day when the wahd came in, van systems were considered the last resort, only for people who didn't have access to a garage or shed. The world of marketing by wc suppliers seems to have taken over and newbies are being lulled into sense that "sexy looking set ups" are a necessity. 45k is a big step towards moving towards somewhere that does have a garage or shed.! I went on a government hmrc business course years ago and the very 1st thing they preached was the very core principals of any business.. ie.. keep your outgoings as cheap as possible and your incomings as high as possible. No body needs to spend that sort of money on a van system even if a van system is your only option.
Have you been drinking?
The OP said 25k for van and system which I think is reasonable if your planning on being a window cleaner for quite a few years and you want a reliable van that your not changing every few years....
He can do what he wants it's his business and money!
I don't regret one bit getting a brand new van and hot system. It makes my working days easier and more comfortable. The heated drivers seat is lovely in the winter months and the hot water system🔥 and electric reel just helps my day along!🙂👍
Heated seats, hot water, fit bird, drum kit, 5* holidays, baked beans. Have I missed anything out? 😂 its every other post he puts up.
Don't forget Bungle.....you ll be dead soon......
Might as well try and enjoy every day and spend money on what you want to make your life easier....🙂👍
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Have you been drinking?
Why do you ask this in a sort of put down scenario ? You've a car and van worth more than the flat you live in.
And whats wrong with drinking ?
Alcohol is for losers......it makes you soft in the head...I'd rather gouge my own eyes out than drink again.....😆
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Ahh poop it was a whim ! Didn’t think I’d have to pay for it
What i mean by that is when you buy an overpriced "system" like a grippa etc which can be £5k to £10k or more its a complete waste of money. Soon as youve bought it its value drops to a fraction of what you paid and its just overkill to pump some water to the glass when you can put a D.I.Y system together for under a grand.
Its likely once the novelty wears off you would regret it, only saying from experience ive bought things on a whim before and regretted it. I paid £29k inc vat for a van 30 months ago its valued at 12.5k now lol what a waste of 16k if i had bought one for 5k it would likely still be worth 4k.
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FWIW I’ve had a Grippa system and PureFreedom.
Oliver actually came down to my place from Cambridge to Basingstoke with two other guys and fitted it at my home. Never had any problems with it.
I had a PureFreedom before the grippa and had that fitted at Grimsby. No problems there either.
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Have you been drinking?
Why do you ask this in a sort of put down scenario ? You've a car and van worth more than the flat you live in.
And whats wrong with drinking ?
Alcohol is for losers......it makes you soft in the head...I'd rather gouge my own eyes out than drink again.....😆
Didn’t you say you had a few drinks when you were on holiday?
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Im just utterly gobsmacked that anyone would consider spending 38.5 k thats 45k + incl vat on a system :o. in the real world, not the CIU willy waving world, a hell of alot of wc wont get anywhere near that amount of money in terms of turnover in a year! Back in the day when the wahd came in, van systems were considered the last resort, only for people who didn't have access to a garage or shed. The world of marketing by wc suppliers seems to have taken over and newbies are being lulled into sense that "sexy looking set ups" are a necessity. 45k is a big step towards moving towards somewhere that does have a garage or shed.! I went on a government hmrc business course years ago and the very 1st thing they preached was the very core principals of any business.. ie.. keep your outgoings as cheap as possible and your incomings as high as possible. No body needs to spend that sort of money on a van system even if a van system is your only option.
Have you been drinking?
The OP said 25k for van and system which I think is reasonable if your planning on being a window cleaner for quite a few years and you want a reliable van that your not changing every few years....
He can do what he wants it's his business and money!
I don't regret one bit getting a brand new van and hot system. It makes my working days easier and more comfortable. The heated drivers seat is lovely in the winter months and the hot water system🔥 and electric reel just helps my day along!🙂👍
Heated seats, hot water, fit bird, drum kit, 5* holidays, baked beans. Have I missed anything out? 😂 its every other post he puts up.
Don't forget Bungle.....you ll be dead soon......
Might as well try and enjoy every day and spend money on what you want to make your life easier....🙂👍
Hopefully I won't be dead 'soon' but FFS do we have to be reminded about your heated seats and holidays? All the bloody time! ::)roll
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I’m edging towards grippa and pure freedom so will see what the quotes come back like
Have a look at Cleaning Warehouse based in Wolverhampton. They're very good, been going for years:
https://www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/the-water-genie-platinum-delivery-unit-6387-p.asp
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We've been using The Cleaning Warehouse in Wolverhampton for almost 20 years without any issues. In that time we've bought three van mounted systems fitted by them plus other bits and pieces but not poles we use Gardiners mainly for those. Our two vans are a 11 plate Dispatch with 164,000 on clock and a 11 plate Partner with similar miles. Both vans serviced often.
In my view turning up in a brand new van tells a story that the person charges too much for his service. Just my opinion guys.
I go a step further. Built my own system and put an immersion heater in.
So my van is 13 years old, bought new in 2012 and the system put in at the same time.
So my (then) 16K van is probably worth 4k? (insurance paid over 6k less than two years ago and it's now a cat S)
I guess the depreciation is now about £500 a year. The system (tank, frame pumps, battery, charging system, immersion) cost less than a grand and is still running fine now.
If/when I start getting big bills to repair I will reconsider but until then, happy days.
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Welded, modfified and installed all the latest top secret modifications on tanks and armoured vehicles in a previous job working for the MOD.
I would begrudge paying £1-3k+ just to have some fancy bits and bobs added to my van by someone else which I could do myself in a day and that includes removing and fitting the tank, pumps, electrics and all the other little bits and bobs, madness!
Get my deferred army pension this year ("hooray") and will make do with what I got, do not wish to buy anything for my van that's flashy unless it's absolutely necessary other than regular servicing to keep it reliable.
The prices theses companies charge to fit a custom tank and accessories is taking the mickey when you consider how many working hours it takes to customise these vans.