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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Stoots on September 03, 2024, 07:29:39 am
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I've recently been using a new working pattern that I call "the taper".
Like most sole operators I have tried to find a work life balance that allows you to work enough hours to earn money but not so much that you want to top yourself.
Obviously window cleaning is window cleaning it will always be mundane and all we can really do it tweak things to make it a tad easier such as light poles, podcastsand getting rid of pita jobs etc.
One thing I have experimented with a lot is working patterns.
There's 3 main ones available to the window cleaner.
3x8 - working 3 days for 8 hours, cramming as much work as possible in. Gets it over and done with allowing 4 days off. The downside is 8 hour days are horrific and the many times I've tried this I dont think ive ever managed 1 week. Usually do a day then think sod that.
4x6 - this is probably the one I've used most, 4 days at 6 hours. 6 hours is about the limit of sanity, as is 4 days. Its a decent balance but its more of a slog week as each day you are pushing up towards the 'redline" of hours which means each day becomes a chore, low on energy and by the time it gets to Thurs I've well and truly had enough it's hard to get them last reps out and finish the Thursday with energy.
5x4 - 5 days at 4 hours, this is great from a short day perspective but it's drags out too long, I've found by the time I get to Thurs I've had enough and wish I didn't have to work the Friday. Which I usually just skip the Friday and ruin the system
Which leads me onto my new revelation.
The taper
It works on the premise that the first day of the week I have the most energy. I can usually start the week with gusto smashing work off, so Monday I can usually get loads done. Then I've noticed as the week goes on my energy and enthusiasm drains. Tuesday don't do quite as much but still OK. By weds I've starting to think ok that's enough for one week I'm getting bored now and by Thursday I really can't be arsed.
So the taper ;D
Monday - overbook the day, smash off as much as you can, it will start to bite around 2pm but hold on for this day it will be worth it. Full gas I would say 7 hours is what you should aim for.
Tuesday - 6 hours a good solid days work.
Weds- book a bit less in 1pm finish
Thurs - half day, steady away finish 12pm.
Just try it, it's a great feeling having something "in the bank" as it were on a Monday. If you are 100 quid ahead that 100 quid you can drop off the end of the week when you really need it.
Hope you enjoyed this waffle I was up early today.
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It makes sense to me - get as much work done and out of the way as early as possible then glide through the rest of the week.
That means with the current weather patterns meaning more unpredictable weather in this damp, grey corner of the country I've got to drum it in to customers that I'll be working in rain. Any resistance to this is fine by me - they just get dropped at the outset. I hope to live as long and as healthily as possible so running myself in to the ground at 51 to clean a few windows isn't in the grand plan.
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I like doing a half day each day and maybe a gutter clear fitted in later on in the day. First of the month I have a great day. Clean two care homes and 7 houses and get paid a days work for 3hrs now I realise why folk like cleaning care homes.
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7:30am till midday 5 days a week with the option of one day off suits me perfectly.
I am getting to the stage where I’m thinking of getting a lad out there doing all the windows whilst I do the extra jobs, but fully admit I haven’t been brave enough to take the plunge yet.
Means taking a pay cut and paying someone 25k a year.
I’m always impressed by those that employ, I just don’t know how you make that leap.
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7:30am till midday 5 days a week with the option of one day off suits me perfectly.
I am getting to the stage where I’m thinking of getting a lad out there doing all the windows whilst I do the extra jobs, but fully admit I haven’t been brave enough to take the plunge yet.
Means taking a pay cut and paying someone 25k a year.
I’m always impressed by those that employ, I just know how you make that leap.
Yeh I've been thinking about it for ages but it's scary and also can be a burden the responsibility. Having been down that road before I also know what a pita in can be.
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7:30am till midday 5 days a week with the option of one day off suits me perfectly.
I am getting to the stage where I’m thinking of getting a lad out there doing all the windows whilst I do the extra jobs, but fully admit I haven’t been brave enough to take the plunge yet.
Means taking a pay cut and paying someone 25k a year.
I’m always impressed by those that employ, I just know how you make that leap.
Yeh I've been thinking about it for ages but it's scary and also can be a burden the responsibility. Having been down that road before I also know what a pita in can be.
It’s gotta be done eventually though, I need courage to take the leap.
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I'm doing 4 days of 6 to 6.5 hours.
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I have done and try all these different methods constantly, the thing that really changes it is how much I need to earn, some of my work isn't priced well so need to work harder on these weeks to earn what i need for the day, it;s all about the dosh, if i could go back 10 to 15 years I would dump all rubbish custys and concentrate on good paying ones, difficult to do now, I think anyone whos paid off their mortgage window cleaning is a good choice.
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7:30am till midday 5 days a week with the option of one day off suits me perfectly.
I am getting to the stage where I’m thinking of getting a lad out there doing all the windows whilst I do the extra jobs, but fully admit I haven’t been brave enough to take the plunge yet.
Means taking a pay cut and paying someone 25k a year.
I’m always impressed by those that employ, I just don’t know how you make that leap.
While it is a big leap to employ you need to have the right mindset ie… it’s not really a pay cut - you are giving a bod all the donkey work while you take the cream work. Ideally for there 25k they turnover 65 to 70k of windows leaving you to earn a cushy 50k doing p/wand other stuff
As an active self employed it works well
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7:30am till midday 5 days a week with the option of one day off suits me perfectly.
I am getting to the stage where I’m thinking of getting a lad out there doing all the windows whilst I do the extra jobs, but fully admit I haven’t been brave enough to take the plunge yet.
Means taking a pay cut and paying someone 25k a year.
I’m always impressed by those that employ, I just don’t know how you make that leap.
While it is a big leap to employ you need to have the right mindset ie… it’s not really a pay cut - you are giving a bod all the donkey work while you take the cream work. Ideally for there 25k they turnover 65 to 70k of windows leaving you to earn a cushy 50k doing p/wand other stuff
As an active self employed it works well
It’s finding that extra work that’s the only problem, in recent years my enquiry’s have slowed as huge amounts of competition has entered the area.
I’d want another 15k of regular window cleaning a year to employ really…
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Apart from the odd superhuman most of us ‘settle’ whether that be customers or prices - if your out there banging your drum youl will get work
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Apart from the odd superhuman most of us ‘settle’ whether that be customers or prices - if your out there banging your drum youl will get work
What drum you got? ;D
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I haven’t been able to work for over three months. Be grateful for what you’ve got.
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I haven’t been able to work for over three months. Be grateful for what you’ve got.
Thats the problem we all have with life, we always want more and better until the worst happens then all of a sudden we want to appreciate what we have ::)roll
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I've recently been using a new working pattern that I call "the taper".
Like most sole operators I have tried to find a work life balance that allows you to work enough hours to earn money but not so much that you want to top yourself.
Obviously window cleaning is window cleaning it will always be mundane and all we can really do it tweak things to make it a tad easier such as light poles, podcastsand getting rid of pita jobs etc.
One thing I have experimented with a lot is working patterns.
There's 3 main ones available to the window cleaner.
3x8 - working 3 days for 8 hours, cramming as much work as possible in. Gets it over and done with allowing 4 days off. The downside is 8 hour days are horrific and the many times I've tried this I dont think ive ever managed 1 week. Usually do a day then think sod that.
4x6 - this is probably the one I've used most, 4 days at 6 hours. 6 hours is about the limit of sanity, as is 4 days. Its a decent balance but its more of a slog week as each day you are pushing up towards the 'redline" of hours which means each day becomes a chore, low on energy and by the time it gets to Thurs I've well and truly had enough it's hard to get them last reps out and finish the Thursday with energy.
5x4 - 5 days at 4 hours, this is great from a short day perspective but it's drags out too long, I've found by the time I get to Thurs I've had enough and wish I didn't have to work the Friday. Which I usually just skip the Friday and ruin the system
Which leads me onto my new revelation.
The taper
It works on the premise that the first day of the week I have the most energy. I can usually start the week with gusto smashing work off, so Monday I can usually get loads done. Then I've noticed as the week goes on my energy and enthusiasm drains. Tuesday don't do quite as much but still OK. By weds I've starting to think ok that's enough for one week I'm getting bored now and by Thursday I really can't be arsed.
So the taper ;D
Monday - overbook the day, smash off as much as you can, it will start to bite around 2pm but hold on for this day it will be worth it. Full gas I would say 7 hours is what you should aim for.
Tuesday - 6 hours a good solid days work.
Weds- book a bit less in 1pm finish
Thurs - half day, steady away finish 12pm.
Just try it, it's a great feeling having something "in the bank" as it were on a Monday. If you are 100 quid ahead that 100 quid you can drop off the end of the week when you really need it.
Hope you enjoyed this waffle I was up early today.
You make it sound like some major issue organising and cleaning a few windows on your own it’s hardly rocket science , if you want to work 8 hours do so if you want to work 2 hours do that , it’s your choice but don’t make it out to be such a dramatic drama 😂
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I've recently been using a new working pattern that I call "the taper".
Like most sole operators I have tried to find a work life balance that allows you to work enough hours to earn money but not so much that you want to top yourself.
Obviously window cleaning is window cleaning it will always be mundane and all we can really do it tweak things to make it a tad easier such as light poles, podcastsand getting rid of pita jobs etc.
One thing I have experimented with a lot is working patterns.
There's 3 main ones available to the window cleaner.
3x8 - working 3 days for 8 hours, cramming as much work as possible in. Gets it over and done with allowing 4 days off. The downside is 8 hour days are horrific and the many times I've tried this I dont think ive ever managed 1 week. Usually do a day then think sod that.
4x6 - this is probably the one I've used most, 4 days at 6 hours. 6 hours is about the limit of sanity, as is 4 days. Its a decent balance but its more of a slog week as each day you are pushing up towards the 'redline" of hours which means each day becomes a chore, low on energy and by the time it gets to Thurs I've well and truly had enough it's hard to get them last reps out and finish the Thursday with energy.
5x4 - 5 days at 4 hours, this is great from a short day perspective but it's drags out too long, I've found by the time I get to Thurs I've had enough and wish I didn't have to work the Friday. Which I usually just skip the Friday and ruin the system
Which leads me onto my new revelation.
The taper
It works on the premise that the first day of the week I have the most energy. I can usually start the week with gusto smashing work off, so Monday I can usually get loads done. Then I've noticed as the week goes on my energy and enthusiasm drains. Tuesday don't do quite as much but still OK. By weds I've starting to think ok that's enough for one week I'm getting bored now and by Thursday I really can't be arsed.
So the taper ;D
Monday - overbook the day, smash off as much as you can, it will start to bite around 2pm but hold on for this day it will be worth it. Full gas I would say 7 hours is what you should aim for.
Tuesday - 6 hours a good solid days work.
Weds- book a bit less in 1pm finish
Thurs - half day, steady away finish 12pm.
Just try it, it's a great feeling having something "in the bank" as it were on a Monday. If you are 100 quid ahead that 100 quid you can drop off the end of the week when you really need it.
Hope you enjoyed this waffle I was up early today.
You make it sound like some major issue organising and cleaning a few windows on your own it’s hardly rocket science , if you want to work 8 hours do so if you want to work 2 hours do that , it’s your choice but don’t make it out to be such a dramatic drama 😂
Mr. Grumpy. Did you get out the wrong side of the bed today?
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There is another alternative .... work hard each and every day and when you fancy a day or a week off to do something else then do it!
Why make life complicated over analysing everything.
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I've recently been using a new working pattern that I call "the taper".
Like most sole operators I have tried to find a work life balance that allows you to work enough hours to earn money but not so much that you want to top yourself.
Obviously window cleaning is window cleaning it will always be mundane and all we can really do it tweak things to make it a tad easier such as light poles, podcastsand getting rid of pita jobs etc.
One thing I have experimented with a lot is working patterns.
There's 3 main ones available to the window cleaner.
3x8 - working 3 days for 8 hours, cramming as much work as possible in. Gets it over and done with allowing 4 days off. The downside is 8 hour days are horrific and the many times I've tried this I dont think ive ever managed 1 week. Usually do a day then think sod that.
4x6 - this is probably the one I've used most, 4 days at 6 hours. 6 hours is about the limit of sanity, as is 4 days. Its a decent balance but its more of a slog week as each day you are pushing up towards the 'redline" of hours which means each day becomes a chore, low on energy and by the time it gets to Thurs I've well and truly had enough it's hard to get them last reps out and finish the Thursday with energy.
5x4 - 5 days at 4 hours, this is great from a short day perspective but it's drags out too long, I've found by the time I get to Thurs I've had enough and wish I didn't have to work the Friday. Which I usually just skip the Friday and ruin the system
Which leads me onto my new revelation.
The taper
It works on the premise that the first day of the week I have the most energy. I can usually start the week with gusto smashing work off, so Monday I can usually get loads done. Then I've noticed as the week goes on my energy and enthusiasm drains. Tuesday don't do quite as much but still OK. By weds I've starting to think ok that's enough for one week I'm getting bored now and by Thursday I really can't be arsed.
So the taper ;D
Monday - overbook the day, smash off as much as you can, it will start to bite around 2pm but hold on for this day it will be worth it. Full gas I would say 7 hours is what you should aim for.
Tuesday - 6 hours a good solid days work.
Weds- book a bit less in 1pm finish
Thurs - half day, steady away finish 12pm.
Just try it, it's a great feeling having something "in the bank" as it were on a Monday. If you are 100 quid ahead that 100 quid you can drop off the end of the week when you really need it.
Hope you enjoyed this waffle I was up early today.
You make it sound like some major issue organising and cleaning a few windows on your own it’s hardly rocket science , if you want to work 8 hours do so if you want to work 2 hours do that , it’s your choice but don’t make it out to be such a dramatic drama 😂
Mr. Grumpy. Did you get out the wrong side of the bed today?
Not at all but every post he puts up is some major drama it’s only organising cleaning a few windows not difficult is it
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Window cleaning can be dramatic, I do overthink a lot. In fact maybe one day when I'm feeling really low I might post a picture a customers car and claim its mine for an ego boost.
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Window cleaning can be dramatic, I do overthink a lot. In fact maybe one day when I'm feeling really low I might post a picture a customers car and claim its mine for an ego boost.
lol you haven’t got a clue mate 😂😂
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Window cleaning can be dramatic, I do overthink a lot. In fact maybe one day when I'm feeling really low I might post a picture a customers car and claim its mine for an ego boost.
It's really not dramatic, your spraying water from a brush onto a window and giving it a scrub and rinse. A trained chimp could do it
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A trained chimp absolutely
some humans - not so much ;D
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A 4 day week is a must for me. I aim to work Monday to Thursday with Friday off. Although this changes during the week, taking my day off that gets the worst weather pushing the schedule back to Friday.
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Window cleaning can be dramatic, I do overthink a lot. In fact maybe one day when I'm feeling really low I might post a picture a customers car and claim its mine for an ego boost.
It's really not dramatic, your spraying water from a brush onto a window and giving it a scrub and rinse. A trained chimp could do it
I suppose if you are a brainless chimp going round spraying glass without a thought in your head there's no drama.
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Window cleaning can be dramatic, I do overthink a lot. In fact maybe one day when I'm feeling really low I might post a picture a customers car and claim its mine for an ego boost.
lol you haven’t got a clue mate 😂😂
And you don't have a clue about me either so best to stfu if you can't take it back.
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Stand away from the handbags please ladies. ;D
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Iam with Stoots cleaning windows gets on my T1t 5 .