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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Darren H on February 09, 2024, 02:49:48 pm

Title: Water meter
Post by: Darren H on February 09, 2024, 02:49:48 pm
Just got home today to see a letter from the water company we are a fitting water meter to your property I've been filling my tank 14 years not had to worry about it, this time of year it takes about 6hrs to fill I think the meter will finish me like that how to people go about it.
My tds is about 320 so can't just put it through resin.
Any advice
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: simon w on February 09, 2024, 03:17:01 pm
Still very affordable compared to buying your water, apply for a non return to sewer allowance from water company and carry on as normal. It's a business expense so offset your water bill against your tax.
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: dd on February 09, 2024, 03:20:23 pm
I had to have meter fitted when I moved house 16 years ago. It was nowhere near as bad as I expected. You should be able to get a refund on water not returned to drain if you calculate how much water you produce as pure - sewage abatement.
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Shrek on February 09, 2024, 04:38:45 pm
Refuse entry to your home and then they’ll charge you on your rateable value for your house
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: dd on February 09, 2024, 04:52:15 pm
Refuse entry to your home and then they’ll charge you on your rateable value for your house
That would only work if meter fitted inside your property boundary. Mine is fitted in the footpath outside where the supply pipe Tees off jrom the main.
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Shrek on February 09, 2024, 05:22:17 pm
Refuse entry to your home and then they’ll charge you on your rateable value for your house
That would only work if meter fitted inside your property boundary. Mine is fitted in the footpath outside where the supply pipe Tees off jrom the main.

That is correct, no chance of stopping them if it’s in the street
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: NBwcs on February 09, 2024, 06:31:50 pm
Just got home today to see a letter from the water company we are a fitting water meter to your property I've been filling my tank 14 years not had to worry about it, this time of year it takes about 6hrs to fill I think the meter will finish me like that how to people go about it.
My tds is about 320 so can't just put it through resin.
Any advice


Did they say they're going to bill you via the meter or just informing you that a meter is being fitted. ? They inform you because they have to turn the supply off  to fit it. Some companies like Anglian Water used to have what they referred to as extended meter programs where the whole neighbourhood would have to have a meter fitted so as they can catch new occupiers as they move in (it also helps with leak detection) but didn't force existing customers on rateable values to change over if they objected. I have a meter fitted but pay on the RV. I am going back a while as i havn't worked there for 20 yrs.
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: JandS on February 09, 2024, 07:33:18 pm
I still pay less than water rates with the meter fitted.
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: colin bird on February 10, 2024, 07:59:19 am
I fitted a sub meter to my garage tap where I fill my van,when the bill comes I take a reading from southern waters meter then a reading from my sub meter,then phone southern water and give them both readings they then calculate how much water has not sent been  to sewer and then credit me the difference.
I put the waste water from my ro either in my pond or on the garden hence no return to drain
Well worth doing and will save you a few hundred quid a year
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: zesty on February 10, 2024, 08:27:08 am
I still pay less than water rates with the meter fitted.

How much pure you producing per week?
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Ggh on February 10, 2024, 08:47:48 am
I don’t understand. Why not just pay for the water you use? Same as any other expense?
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: JandS on February 10, 2024, 08:56:48 am
I only do about 3 days a week or roughly 11 days a month so around 5000/5500  litres per month through a RO  so about 11000 litres in total.
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Bungle on February 10, 2024, 03:31:11 pm
I had my water bill today. I'm on a meter. £388 for 6 months. Works out at about £3 odd per working day. Can't grumble at that really.
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Shrek on February 10, 2024, 03:35:38 pm
I had my water bill today. I'm on a meter. £388 for 6 months. Works out at about £3 odd per working day. Can't grumble at that really.

That’s not as bad as I was expecting, my unmetered water bill is £49 going up to £55 a month .
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: dazmond on February 10, 2024, 04:56:41 pm
Don't forget to add a portion of your water meter bill to your expenses.i put down £30 per month for mine as I'm on a meter too (but DI only.)

How much do you guys put down for washing cloths and workclothes per year?I put £60 a year which I think is the most you can claim for.
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Splash & dash on February 10, 2024, 05:06:15 pm
I had my water bill today. I'm on a meter. £388 for 6 months. Works out at about £3 odd per working day. Can't grumble at that really.


Most water bills are 3 monthly not 6 are you sure that’s right ?..
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Splash & dash on February 10, 2024, 05:07:54 pm
Don't forget to add a portion of your water meter bill to your expenses.i put down £30 per month for mine as I'm on a meter too (but DI only.)

How much do you guys put down for washing cloths and workclothes per year?I put £60 a year which I think is the most you can claim for.


Put down what ever it is £60 or 6,000 depending on the size of the business everyone will be different
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: dazmond on February 10, 2024, 07:09:39 pm
I had my water bill today. I'm on a meter. £388 for 6 months. Works out at about £3 odd per working day. Can't grumble at that really.


Most water bills are 3 monthly not 6 are you sure that’s right ?..

Mines always been 6 monthly,never 3 monthly
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: dazmond on February 10, 2024, 07:10:11 pm
Don't forget to add a portion of your water meter bill to your expenses.i put down £30 per month for mine as I'm on a meter too (but DI only.)

How much do you guys put down for washing cloths and workclothes per year?I put £60 a year which I think is the most you can claim for.


Put down what ever it is £60 or 6,000 depending on the size of the business everyone will be different

I meant to say sole traders only....
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Splash & dash on February 10, 2024, 07:20:01 pm
I had my water bill today. I'm on a meter. £388 for 6 months. Works out at about £3 odd per working day. Can't grumble at that really.

That’s unusual most are quarterly mine have always been that perhaps different water authorities do things differently?.
Most water bills are 3 monthly not 6 are you sure that’s right ?..

Mines always been 6 monthly,never 3 monthly
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Splash & dash on February 10, 2024, 07:21:04 pm
Don't forget to add a portion of your water meter bill to your expenses.i put down £30 per month for mine as I'm on a meter too (but DI only.)

How much do you guys put down for washing cloths and workclothes per year?I put £60 a year which I think is the most you can claim for.


Put down what ever it is £60 or 6,000 depending on the size of the business everyone will be different

I meant to say sole traders only....

Sole traders can have employees
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Bungle on February 10, 2024, 10:55:10 pm
I had my water bill today. I'm on a meter. £388 for 6 months. Works out at about £3 odd per working day. Can't grumble at that really.


Most water bills are 3 monthly not 6 are you sure that’s right ?..

I get a bill in February and  August. How much are your water bills splash?
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: dazmond on February 11, 2024, 11:12:06 am
I had my water bill today. I'm on a meter. £388 for 6 months. Works out at about £3 odd per working day. Can't grumble at that really.


Most water bills are 3 monthly not 6 are you sure that’s right ?..

I get a bill in February and  August. How much are your water bills splash?

Same...I thought all water bills had the same format.
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Splash & dash on February 11, 2024, 11:25:22 am
I had my water bill today. I'm on a meter. £388 for 6 months. Works out at about £3 odd per working day. Can't grumble at that really.


Most water bills are 3 monthly not 6 are you sure that’s right ?..

I get a bill in February and  August. How much are your water bills splash?

Varies a bit but around 1,800 a quarter
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Spruce on February 11, 2024, 12:04:47 pm
Don't forget to add a portion of your water meter bill to your expenses.i put down £30 per month for mine as I'm on a meter too (but DI only.)

How much do you guys put down for washing cloths and workclothes per year?I put £60 a year which I think is the most you can claim for.

You should have a separate meter so you know how much water you use for window cleaning.

Fine for your claim for washing clothes and cloths every day. You might also consider another claim for the electricity you use for heating the van every winter. Your charger also uses a bit of electricity every day.
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: dazmond on February 11, 2024, 02:53:39 pm
Don't forget to add a portion of your water meter bill to your expenses.i put down £30 per month for mine as I'm on a meter too (but DI only.)

How much do you guys put down for washing cloths and workclothes per year?I put £60 a year which I think is the most you can claim for.

You should have a separate meter so you know how much water you use for window cleaning.

Fine for your claim for washing clothes and cloths every day. You might also consider another claim for the electricity you use for heating the van every winter. Your charger also uses a bit of electricity every day.

I haven't got a separate meter.£30 a month is around half my water bill.as I live on my own that's about right.

I've never claimed for electricity for charging my batteries overnight.ive no idea where to start with working that out.itd be a guess anyway.maybe I could put down £10 per month?it's never gonna be an exact percentage.
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Ggh on February 12, 2024, 03:55:12 pm
Don't forget to add a portion of your water meter bill to your expenses.i put down £30 per month for mine as I'm on a meter too (but DI only.)

How much do you guys put down for washing cloths and workclothes per year?I put £60 a year which I think is the most you can claim for.

You should have a separate meter so you know how much water you use for window cleaning.

Fine for your claim for washing clothes and cloths every day. You might also consider another claim for the electricity you use for heating the van every winter. Your charger also uses a bit of electricity every day.

I haven't got a separate meter.£30 a month is around half my water bill.as I live on my own that's about right.

I've never claimed for electricity for charging my batteries overnight.ive no idea where to start with working that out.itd be a guess anyway.maybe I could put down £10 per month?it's never gonna be an exact percentage.

Just work out the kw your charger runs at, then multiply by the number of hours. Then multiply by whatever you’re paying per unit.

If your charger is half a kw and you run it for ten hours a week, that’s 5kwh…….
Title: Re: Water meter
Post by: Slacky on February 12, 2024, 03:59:54 pm
Don't forget to add a portion of your water meter bill to your expenses.i put down £30 per month for mine as I'm on a meter too (but DI only.)

How much do you guys put down for washing cloths and workclothes per year?I put £60 a year which I think is the most you can claim for.

You should have a separate meter so you know how much water you use for window cleaning.

Fine for your claim for washing clothes and cloths every day. You might also consider another claim for the electricity you use for heating the van every winter. Your charger also uses a bit of electricity every day.

I haven't got a separate meter.£30 a month is around half my water bill.as I live on my own that's about right.

I've never claimed for electricity for charging my batteries overnight.ive no idea where to start with working that out.itd be a guess anyway.maybe I could put down £10 per month?it's never gonna be an exact percentage.

Thought you'd moved in with the missus.