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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Tristan R Clean on December 09, 2023, 08:11:47 pm
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New laws to come into effect with fine for parking on pavements in Scotland.
Will it affect any of you fellas?
There is talk of it coming into force in England.
I know on some of my work it will make things very awkward😬
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Won’t affect me too much, can’t think of anywhere that I park on the pavement at the moment. If the worst came to the worst I would use a customers drive with their permission.
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Chances of being caught quite slim, I’ll just carry on. We’re only there for a few mins at a time.
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Won’t affect me too much, can’t think of anywhere that I park on the pavement at the moment. If the worst came to the worst I would use a customers drive with their permission.
Interesting - never asked for permission to use drive - always took it as read if I’m working on the property I can use the drive
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I always avoid using pavement. You see it all the time with the social media police filming vans on pavements. You'll get linched mobed. 😂
Yet the worst offenders for poor parking using pavements and blocking roads are the school runs. No one batters an eye lid.
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It's a stupid law.
Outside my house you can legally park on both sides of the road. The road would be blocked but both cars would be legally parked.
Hopefully this is policed with sensible discretion.
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Window Cleaners are the third emergency service civilian rules don't apply to us.
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Window Cleaners are the third emergency service civilian rules don't apply to us.
Who are first, second and fourth? ;D
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Won’t affect me too much, can’t think of anywhere that I park on the pavement at the moment. If the worst came to the worst I would use a customers drive with their permission.
Interesting - never asked for permission to use drive - always took it as read if I’m working on the property I can use the drive
It is a given. If not it’s a dump😜
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Won’t affect me too much, can’t think of anywhere that I park on the pavement at the moment. If the worst came to the worst I would use a customers drive with their permission.
Interesting - never asked for permission to use drive - always took it as read if I’m working on the property I can use the drive
Sorry I should have expanded, I meant I would nose into a customers drive then maybe clean a handful of houses from that one drive.
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I always avoid using pavement. You see it all the time with the social media police filming vans on pavements. You'll get linched mobed. 😂
Yet the worst offenders for poor parking using pavements and blocking roads are the school runs. No one batters an eye lid.
I hope not, you’d get done with assault if you did😜
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Window Cleaners are the third emergency service civilian rules don't apply to us.
Who are first, second and fourth? ;D
1: RNLI (I spend a lot of time afloat) 2: RSPCA (loves animals) 4: My local Waitrose (loves me grub)
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I don’t use customers drive way . Remember a work van got locked in a drive way in a dispute. And as it was a civil matter we’re unable to move the van . Think it was to do with free holidays if you bought a hoover.
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I never park on drives unless its the only option. Mainly because its easier to park on the road 9 times out of 10 and my van is big some drives its a squeeze.
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You guys don’t work in London. Last week got a £55 fine The bulge of the tyre was over the curb stone Fined for pavement parking
I feel your gonna get what we get in London park on the curb fine over the line in a parking bay because the van is wider than the bay fine overstay by more than a minute fine red route fine box junction fine drive over 20 mph fine and points got three points for going over tower bridge at 23 mph it’s just a tax for living in London
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You guys don’t work in London. Last week got a £55 fine The bulge of the tyre was over the curb stone Fined for pavement parking
I feel your gonna get what we get in London park on the curb fine over the line in a parking bay because the van is wider than the bay fine overstay by more than a minute fine red route fine box junction fine drive over 20 mph fine and points got three points for going over tower bridge at 23 mph it’s just a tax for living in London
Glad we don’t live there 😂😂😂😂
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Fortunately, all of my customers either live in large detached properties or have parking available.
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Fortunately, all of my customers either live in large detached properties or have parking available.
Welcome back Nigel😜
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Is this new law looking to purely punish those who park the majority or even the whole of the vehicle on the pavement? I'm sure all of us park with two wheels on the curb in narrow roads so this new Scottish rule presumably doesn't stretch to that?
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It's impossible not to park half on the pavement most of the time due to narrow roads and the sheer number of vehicles on the road.
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I try to avoid it if possible anyway. If this law comes to England I will probably have to just drop 4 or 5 customers, so no big deal.
As for parking on driveways, I do this too, but avoid it if possible. Sometimes the customer comes back while we're cleaning, and I don't like annoying them by preventing them parking on their own drive (even though I'm sure they don't mind)
But one time I parked on a customer's drive on a really awkward PITA road where there was basically no alternative. While I was around the back, a visitor came and blocked my van in, I didn't notice until I was packing up.
So, I packed up and then rang the doorbell so the visitor could let me out...- No answer.
I rang again ... No answer.
I called the customer's mobile (he was in) ... No Answer.
I banged hard on the door... No Answer.
So I waited a few minutes, just wondering what to do when finally the visitor (an insurance man) finally came out, he and the customer in deep conversation. It was clear that they had heard me knocking and ringing, but were happy to just ignore me, even though he had blocked me in. What a complete tool.
Never again.
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I try to avoid it if possible anyway. If this law comes to England I will probably have to just drop 4 or 5 customers, so no big deal.
As for parking on driveways, I do this too, but avoid it if possible. Sometimes the customer comes back while we're cleaning, and I don't like annoying them by preventing them parking on their own drive (even though I'm sure they don't mind)
But one time I parked on a customer's drive on a really awkward PITA road where there was basically no alternative. While I was around the back, a visitor came and blocked my van in, I didn't notice until I was packing up.
So, I packed up and then rang the doorbell so the visitor could let me out...- No answer.
I rang again ... No answer.
I called the customer's mobile (he was in) ... No Answer.
I banged hard on the door... No Answer.
So I waited a few minutes, just wondering what to do when finally the visitor (an insurance man) finally came out, he and the customer in deep conversation. It was clear that they had heard me knocking and ringing, but were happy to just ignore me, even though he had blocked me in. What a complete tool.
Never again.
That would be an instant dump. Can't stand rude people who think they are our only customer to get to.
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Is this new law looking to purely punish those who park the majority or even the whole of the vehicle on the pavement? I'm sure all of us park with two wheels on the curb in narrow roads so this new Scottish rule presumably doesn't stretch to that?
Sorry to burst the Scottish bubble here in London the whole of London that is
they will hit you if the bulge of the tyre is on the kerb stone the kerb is according to them part of the pavement
as is the muddy bit of a verge !!
My wheel had turned in and mounted the kerb by an inch I know not good for the tyre but we all do when the space is tight £85 fine for pavement parking
Van was wider than the bay £85 fine if you park more than 53 cm from the kerb fine for double parking Fine
loading bays are a no no for windows cleaners as we’re not unloading apparently leave the van doors open to look like your unloading lose your kit
Some yellow box junctions are designed to catch you out the one in Chelsea is 100 yards long With the well placed camera they got me £55 fine and they made over a million pounds last year out of just one box junction in Camden
Liverpool st you round a blind bend and straight into a bus lane it’s 50 yards long wave goodbye to £125 there is more congestion zone now virtually 247 sat mornings be out by twelve is the only break it even works Xmas day as does lez and ulez
Pay per mile is coming low no traffic areas are here
they never ever let a chance go to common sense they always abuse the powers they have and the serious serial offenders get away Scott free pardon the pun
Once they get the taste of any power they never let it go my council used the terrorisum act to spy on a man putting the wrong rubbish in a wheelie bin go figure
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Is this new law looking to purely punish those who park the majority or even the whole of the vehicle on the pavement? I'm sure all of us park with two wheels on the curb in narrow roads so this new Scottish rule presumably doesn't stretch to that?
Sorry to burst the Scottish bubble here in London the whole of London that is
they will hit you if the bulge of the tyre is on the kerb stone the kerb is according to them part of the pavement
as is the muddy bit of a verge !!
My wheel had turned in and mounted the kerb by an inch I know not good for the tyre but we all do when the space is tight £85 fine for pavement parking
Van was wider than the bay £85 fine if you park more than 53 cm from the kerb fine for double parking Fine
loading bays are a no no for windows cleaners as we’re not unloading apparently leave the van doors open to look like your unloading lose your kit
Some yellow box junctions are designed to catch you out the one in Chelsea is 100 yards long With the well placed camera they got me £55 fine and they made over a million pounds last year out of just one box junction in Camden
Liverpool st you round a blind bend and straight into a bus lane it’s 50 yards long wave goodbye to £125 there is more congestion zone now virtually 247 sat mornings be out by twelve is the only break it even works Xmas day as does lez and ulez
Pay per mile is coming low no traffic areas are here
they never ever let a chance go to common sense they always abuse the powers they have and the serious serial offenders get away Scott free pardon the pun
Once they get the taste of any power they never let it go my council used the terrorisum act to spy on a man putting the wrong rubbish in a wheelie bin go figure
Legally a window cleaner can park in a loading bay we had a case like that down here and it went to court and the council / traffic warden was given a roasting for waisting the courts time and had to pay all costs , I think ones in London just accept the fine as they can’t be bothered to challenge it . Also the bit about a bulging tyre over the kerb is also not a legal issue , ones need to challenge theses things .
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Legally a window cleaner can park in a loading bay we had a case like that down here and it went to court and the council / traffic warden was given a roasting for waisting the courts time and had to pay all costs , I think ones in London just accept the fine as they can’t be bothered to challenge it . Also the bit about a bulging tyre over the kerb is also not a legal issue , ones need to challenge theses things .
I’d be just so happy to have that confirmed?
Do you have any details of that case?
There are plenty of perfectly placed loading areas that I’ve been avoiding all these years.
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Legally a window cleaner can park in a loading bay we had a case like that down here and it went to court and the council / traffic warden was given a roasting for waisting the courts time and had to pay all costs , I think ones in London just accept the fine as they can’t be bothered to challenge it . Also the bit about a bulging tyre over the kerb is also not a legal issue , ones need to challenge theses things .
I’d be just so happy to have that confirmed?
Do you have any details of that case?
There are plenty of perfectly placed loading areas that I’ve been avoiding all these years.
It was in the local press and local TV news at the time , don’t know all the details but it was publicised that the guy could legally use a loading bay to work and a window cleaner using WFP from a tank in his van was allowed 20 muinits “ loading time “ to do the job . There have been no issues since we regularly park on double yellows , loading bays etc without any issues , we do a very large hotel in our area and have two van s parked on double yellows for two days with out issue when we took on the job I got on to the council to get a permit to park there cost around £20 , after 8 months they got fed up issuing the permits and gave me one free of charge that is undated and we still use it now that was issued around 8 years ago . Apart from red lines you can get permission to park any ware it’s just a case of applying to the local council .