Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JBC88 on August 13, 2023, 04:52:00 pm
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I'm currently self employed and want to build a business and do better for myself.
The thing is I think after doing the numbers that the only way to do it is charge so much to my existing 400 customers so that I can afford to finance a van and system and pay someone £25k to do the work while I focus on canvassing and running things off the tools. All while providing for my young family as my wife is on mat leave and doesn't have a highly paid job to go back to.
Most window cleaners around me charge between £10-16 for a 3bed semi. I'd need to be atleast £20 and I don't think it would ever work.
Getting enough work for yourself is the easy part it's expanding that's difficult because it's all such a price sensitive industry.
If you have a multivan business how have you done it? And how would you do it in my scenario being the sole bread winner?
DM me if you prefer
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I'm currently self employed and want to build a business and do better for myself.
The thing is I think after doing the numbers that the only way to do it is charge so much to my existing 400 customers so that I can afford to finance a van and system and pay someone £25k to do the work while I focus on canvassing and running things off the tools. All while providing for my young family as my wife is on mat leave and doesn't have a highly paid job to go back to.
Most window cleaners around me charge between £10-16 for a 3bed semi. I'd need to be atleast £20 and I don't think it would ever work.
Getting enough work for yourself is the easy part it's expanding that's difficult because it's all such a price sensitive industry.
If you have a multivan business how have you done it? And how would you do it in my scenario being the sole bread winner?
DM me if you prefer
Not really in the mood to blow sweet nothings up your behind but I have highlighted a couple of things for you to consider
1 - why would people pay you 20 for a clean when others are charging 16 - if you need 20 for the amount of time its taking you then learn to speed up!
2 - getting work is easy for yourself - then its no different than getting work for your staff. - you sound typical of some on here, that you should be making the same from an employee as if you were working it yourself - there is always a give - how much of a give is dependant on how good you are - how good you train the staff - then how good the staff member is
Expanding is a balancing act - sometimes you take a financial knock in the very short term
you cant have your cake and eat it
Darran
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£20 for a 3 bed semi in Leeds & Bradford area? I thought it was grim up north 😁
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£20 for a 3 bed semi in Leeds & Bradford area? I thought it was grim up north 😁
£20 is ideal, it's very grim up norf, even the £16 guys are expensive to be fair 😄
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You've completely misunderstood me I think.
I just get by ATM at current prices and cost of business. There's not enough profit for another lot of equipment, van and wage plus marketing costs etc.
1. I wouldn't expect anyone to pay £20 instead of £16 unless the value was better. I've not factored speed into it, this is all about finances.
2. I don't expect employees to work as fast or be as motivated as me, it's not their business so I'd assume they'd clean less per hour than me.
This is why I'm asking multivan owners because you have the experience of doing this.
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You need to target better work that would be a start you’re never gonna get far especially employing doing houses for £16-20 a time trust me,look at what you need to Net at the end of every month it’s way more than you think.
Employing 10 odd bods after Tax and Vat ain’t that attractive,want serious money get into a serious industry window cleaning is a great lifestyle job with good money for little effort but it won’t make you Rich.
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Trust me ;D
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If I paid an employee 100 a day I’d want him to be cleaning at least 300 quid worth,everytime I put 100 in his hand I’d want or expect 300 to be coming back in after he’d been out for an hour or 8 hours or it’s not worth it.
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Build it up and try and sell it 🤣🤣 I’m sure you’ll have plenty of enquiries lol,yeah yeah yeah oohhhhhh innnnnddeed I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve heard the word indeed over the last month.
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Build it up and try and sell it 🤣🤣 I’m sure you’ll have plenty of enquiries lol,yeah yeah yeah oohhhhhh innnnnddeed I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve heard the word indeed over the last month.
Yeah there's almost zero point building to sell to window cleaners. I don't think many have the money.
There's a guy near Newcastle with a massive round he was selling in lots because no one would buy it as a business. It was turning over silly money per month and he was still getting people saying "youre only buying good will etc it's worth f all"...he can't give it away if he wanted it's absolute bonkers.
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You need to target better work that would be a start you’re never gonna get far especially employing doing houses for £16-20 a time trust me,look at what you need to Net at the end of every month it’s way more than you think.
Employing 10 odd bods after Tax and Vat ain’t that attractive,want serious money get into a serious industry window cleaning is a great lifestyle job with good money for little effort but it won’t make you Rich.
Tbh it's the dependable repeat business that makes window cleaning attractive, but yeah it's so hard to build to something good hence why I'm asking advice.
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Forget the small jobs you may as well take up running you want to earn as much as you can per hour every hour everyday,if you get someone working for you get him to do all what you do now on his own.
After you’ve paid him and all expenses paid yourself a wage you should be able to just concentrate on getting more work,be aware though of the fools that usually come for a window cleaning job,just as you are about to get it off the ground their lives collapse with benefits being stopped coz they haven’t stopped claiming and haven’t told you,the girlfriend that has 5 kids from 5 dads is playing up the list goes on.
Sometimes you’d be better off having to employ 4-5 over 1 because if 1 drops you in it you can end up in more trouble if you have lots of work.
That’s why you want big jobs but fewer of them.
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Build it up and try and sell it 🤣🤣 I’m sure you’ll have plenty of enquiries lol,yeah yeah yeah oohhhhhh innnnnddeed I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve heard the word indeed over the last month.
Yeah there's almost zero point building to sell to window cleaners. I don't think many have the money.
There's a guy near Newcastle with a massive round he was selling in lots because no one would buy it as a business. It was turning over silly money per month and he was still getting people saying "youre only buying good will etc it's worth f all"...he can't give it away if he wanted it's absolute bonkers.
It’s all good will even if you have contracts etc it means nothing if they don’t like or want someone they won’t renew when the time is up,they want it all their own way when they buy they expect 1/2 year contracts on everything lol,it’s like I’m not risking 10 quid that’s why they have nothing to spend when the time comes.
The jokers I’ve seen over the last 4 /5 weeks we could do a comedy sketch show.
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Careful Lee - the Troll will be after you !!
Darran
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Yep. That’s why I don’t get involved here anymore. Shame really but this post struck a chord.
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its unfortunate - i've talked to over a dozen on here outside the forum over the years and always been more than happy to give experiences and pitfalls I've come across but now its just Troll. Troll Troll - so I think a slow a quiet exit would suit me best
Darran
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Not far from you, I work in wakefield/leeds also.
£16 for a 3 bed semi is good going as it is most of mine are about £13 average and always felt im quite high at that a lot I know are still a tenner.
That said £15 x 30 houses a day is 450 quid.
Even if you "only" had someone out doing 350 quid a day how is that not enough to employ ?
I personally do about 300 quid a day in 6 hours. with an employee you have 8 hours and better prices than me it would seem so I don't see the issue.
It depends on how big you want to grow.
Why not stay under vat and pay someone 25k a year. You'd only have to work a couple days a week tops. If you plan to go over vat then you need to price higher but 16 quid a house is really good if you can do 25 to 30 a day you are laughing.
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Have you ever employed Stoots I’m not sure you have m8 but those figures don’t add up to anywhere near enough,in this game you can’t guarantee you will work everyday that’s why people on here that do employ are hellbent on working in terrible conditions weather wise coz they have to.
Earn 300 next day you don’t work that previous day gets chopped in half so on and so forth for subsequent days off,
I had 1 month last year that I had to pay a months wages coz he was sick unexpected van repairs,the month before 2k to Grippa lol,the best scenario is stay small get someone working full time and take a part time wage for doing nothing 🤣,
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Have you ever employed Stoots I’m not sure you have m8 but those figures don’t add up to anywhere near enough,in this game you can’t guarantee you will work everyday that’s why people on here that do employ are hellbent on working in terrible conditions weather wise coz they have to.
Earn 300 next day you don’t work that previous day gets chopped in half so on and so forth for subsequent days off,
I had 1 month last year that I had to pay a months wages coz he was sick unexpected van repairs,the month before 2k to Grippa lol,the best scenario is stay small get someone working full time and take a part time wage for doing nothing 🤣,
The problem you have mate is you talking about the north as if its the south.
I understand you work in an affluent area charging affluent prices.
I dont think you've managed to grasp the north/south divide. You act as though it doesn't exist which is understandable as if you've always eaten caviar then I guess you assume everyone does lol
25k up here isn't a part time wage, it's a very respectable income. I dont know many people earning that it's enough to get you a reasonable standard of living.
350 a day should be plenty. 150 to cover wages and all costs 200 in pre tax profit.
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Problem is he's just talking total poop - period
For staters if you have an employee sick - they only get SSP
Van repairs ? - part of any Biz - mind you if your driving about in a sh!tty old VW - what else would you expect
Rain - Never work in rain - how many days lost to rain - well yes it been a bad one - total of 3 days since Jan (Gosh!)
For someone trying to sell work at £100+ an hour all the above shouldn't even touch the sides - button course the reek of the runny brown stuff just flows - like in our rivers
employees can and do work as hard as the owner - they like to earn the £££'s as well - but there are those on here who simply don't understand business
Darran
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That’s quite an effort for someone that’s not bothered about a silly troll 😂,he’s even said it himself Dazza he knows someone that built a decent business but couldn’t get rid of it.
I’ve said it so many times people don’t see it as a proper business it’s more like a when are getting a proper job or between job thing,it’s cleaning windows how hard can it be.
It hasn’t lost this attitude all the time I’ve been doing it,why do you think people won’t buy a round for sensible money.
Nigel xx.
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And it doesn’t touch the sides ££ wise I’m looking at it from a business standpoint if you were trying to run it to the nearest £ you need capital,I could always rent a van with an ionic system in it for a grand month 🤣 taxable though lol.
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Yep. That’s why I don’t get involved here anymore. Shame really but this post struck a chord.
Thank you Lee I'll follow this up
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Have you ever employed Stoots I’m not sure you have m8 but those figures don’t add up to anywhere near enough,in this game you can’t guarantee you will work everyday that’s why people on here that do employ are hellbent on working in terrible conditions weather wise coz they have to.
Earn 300 next day you don’t work that previous day gets chopped in half so on and so forth for subsequent days off,
I had 1 month last year that I had to pay a months wages coz he was sick unexpected van repairs,the month before 2k to Grippa lol,the best scenario is stay small get someone working full time and take a part time wage for doing nothing 🤣,
This here is the realistic stuff that can happen. I've kept an eye on the running costs and I'm realising how much it costs to run a business.
That's a dream in a small way working pt doing nothing lol, you can't make ends meet working/earning pt though in this day and age.
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Have you ever employed Stoots I’m not sure you have m8 but those figures don’t add up to anywhere near enough,in this game you can’t guarantee you will work everyday that’s why people on here that do employ are hellbent on working in terrible conditions weather wise coz they have to.
Earn 300 next day you don’t work that previous day gets chopped in half so on and so forth for subsequent days off,
I had 1 month last year that I had to pay a months wages coz he was sick unexpected van repairs,the month before 2k to Grippa lol,the best scenario is stay small get someone working full time and take a part time wage for doing nothing 🤣,
The problem you have mate is you talking about the north as if its the south.
I understand you work in an affluent area charging affluent prices.
I dont think you've managed to grasp the north/south divide. You act as though it doesn't exist which is understandable as if you've always eaten caviar then I guess you assume everyone does lol
25k up here isn't a part time wage, it's a very respectable income. I dont know many people earning that it's enough to get you a reasonable standard of living.
350 a day should be plenty. 150 to cover wages and all costs 200 in pre tax profit.
£25k after tax is take home of £1700 it is an AVG wage up here for a low skilled job but it's not even paying the basics.. rent is on avg £700 pm mortgages now apparently £1k you JUST pay bills on that I think.
My wife at best can work PT once both kids are in school so £25k is nowhere near enough for a family imo.
Maybe I'm unrealistic here but I hoped to build a business an it be able to give me a decent family income as a minimum and to be able to grow to a few vans and have a comfortable living as a business owner but atm it's a job at best.
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Have you ever employed Stoots I’m not sure you have m8 but those figures don’t add up to anywhere near enough,in this game you can’t guarantee you will work everyday that’s why people on here that do employ are hellbent on working in terrible conditions weather wise coz they have to.
Earn 300 next day you don’t work that previous day gets chopped in half so on and so forth for subsequent days off,
I had 1 month last year that I had to pay a months wages coz he was sick unexpected van repairs,the month before 2k to Grippa lol,the best scenario is stay small get someone working full time and take a part time wage for doing nothing 🤣,
This here is the realistic stuff that can happen. I've kept an eye on the running costs and I'm realising how much it costs to run a business.
That's a dream in a small way working pt doing nothing lol, you can't make ends meet working/earning pt though in this day and age.
That depends what ends you need to meet.
I work maybe 20 to 25 hours a week on the glass and don't struggle .
If you did vat threshold 85k and paid someone 25k
That's 60k for the business/you. Which is probably more than an average sole operator window cleaner does on his own. You'd probably only need to work a day or 2 a week.
If you have 4 kids a massive mortgage, van finance, cars on lease, take holidays with floating beans and have no other household income then maybe it's tight.
For someone else with a small or no mortgage, a partner who also brings in and income, kids left home and no need for an extravagant lifestyle then you can live very comfortably.
So it depends.
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15-1700 a month take home is a Nurses wage and is a ridiculous amount to pay someone to do a manual job,they won’t last 3-6 months.
Good luck trying to live on 25k a year.
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That’s the other thing round the corner people seemed to have forgotten about Autumn 🍂 then winter,window cleaning will be part of tightening their belts and be less frequent over the winter months.
I can’t see this coming year not being affected for maybe the first time ever over any recession previously,good luck employing at the moment I wouldn’t say it was a good time.
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15-1700 a month take home is a Nurses wage and is a ridiculous amount to pay someone to do a manual job,they won’t last 3-6 months.
Good luck trying to live on 25k a year.
Postmen take home £400 a week
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Have you ever employed Stoots I’m not sure you have m8 but those figures don’t add up to anywhere near enough,in this game you can’t guarantee you will work everyday that’s why people on here that do employ are hellbent on working in terrible conditions weather wise coz they have to.
Earn 300 next day you don’t work that previous day gets chopped in half so on and so forth for subsequent days off,
I had 1 month last year that I had to pay a months wages coz he was sick unexpected van repairs,the month before 2k to Grippa lol,the best scenario is stay small get someone working full time and take a part time wage for doing nothing 🤣,
The problem you have mate is you talking about the north as if its the south.
I understand you work in an affluent area charging affluent prices.
I dont think you've managed to grasp the north/south divide. You act as though it doesn't exist which is understandable as if you've always eaten caviar then I guess you assume everyone does lol
25k up here isn't a part time wage, it's a very respectable income. I dont know many people earning that it's enough to get you a reasonable standard of living.
350 a day should be plenty. 150 to cover wages and all costs 200 in pre tax profit.
It also makes me realise £25k employee wage isn't too great for them either unless they don't have a family etc so I prob have to rethink that too.
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I'm currently self employed and want to build a business and do better for myself.
The thing is I think after doing the numbers that the only way to do it is charge so much to my existing 400 customers so that I can afford to finance a van and system and pay someone £25k to do the work while I focus on canvassing and running things off the tools. All while providing for my young family as my wife is on mat leave and doesn't have a highly paid job to go back to.
Most window cleaners around me charge between £10-16 for a 3bed semi. I'd need to be atleast £20 and I don't think it would ever work.
Getting enough work for yourself is the easy part it's expanding that's difficult because it's all such a price sensitive industry.
If you have a multivan business how have you done it? And how would you do it in my scenario being the sole bread winner?
DM me if you prefer
You really need to speak to Lee Pryor as he's done it and become a very successful businessman.
Ignore everyone else on this thread.
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I'm currently self employed and want to build a business and do better for myself.
The thing is I think after doing the numbers that the only way to do it is charge so much to my existing 400 customers so that I can afford to finance a van and system and pay someone £25k to do the work while I focus on canvassing and running things off the tools. All while providing for my young family as my wife is on mat leave and doesn't have a highly paid job to go back to.
Most window cleaners around me charge between £10-16 for a 3bed semi. I'd need to be atleast £20 and I don't think it would ever work.
Getting enough work for yourself is the easy part it's expanding that's difficult because it's all such a price sensitive industry.
If you have a multivan business how have you done it? And how would you do it in my scenario being the sole bread winner?
DM me if you prefer
You really need to speak to Lee Pryor as he's done it and become a very successful businessman.
Ignore everyone else on this thread.
I’d say smudger and splash are very successful too , no need to ignore everyone daz
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Smudger is too busy squabbling with Nigel and Splash has not even replied to this thread!😄
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Lee Pryor is Top G no doubt about it but the other lads are very successful at employing too👌
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I'm currently self employed and want to build a business and do better for myself.
The thing is I think after doing the numbers that the only way to do it is charge so much to my existing 400 customers so that I can afford to finance a van and system and pay someone £25k to do the work while I focus on canvassing and running things off the tools. All while providing for my young family as my wife is on mat leave and doesn't have a highly paid job to go back to.
Most window cleaners around me charge between £10-16 for a 3bed semi. I'd need to be atleast £20 and I don't think it would ever work.
Getting enough work for yourself is the easy part it's expanding that's difficult because it's all such a price sensitive industry.
If you have a multivan business how have you done it? And how would you do it in my scenario being the sole bread winner?
DM me if you prefer
You really need to speak to Lee Pryor as he's done it and become a very successful businessman.
Ignore everyone else on this thread.
Bless you Daz lol.
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Smudger is too busy squabbling with Nigel and Splash has not even replied to this thread!😄
:P. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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If you have 400 jobs at £15 a month , that would be £6000 a month £72 000 a year . I would buy that run . Presume not all work is £15 a go
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⬆️ would you lol well I couldn’t sell 40 odd jobs that made that and more with more work like it to follow,all documented backup if needed.
They all said they wanted it thing is the only thing missing was the money to obtain it 🤣🤣, I’d have bought that run lol hearing that again gave me an instant sweat.
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If you have 400 jobs at £15 a month , that would be £6000 a month £72 000 a year . I would buy that run . Presume not all work is £15 a go
That’s a huge slog m8 no one wants to face that every morning lot easier if you only got half a dozen to clean and
Back for dinner.
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I don’t think 20 houses a day for 20 days a month is a slog lol and I am ancient lol
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Smudger is too busy squabbling with Nigel and Splash has not even replied to this thread!😄
I can’t be bothered to reply as when I quote figures that can be achieved ones say it’s Willy waving and not possible but we have been doing it for 24 years so I know it can be done , it’s a case of I don’t need to prove anything to anyone, ime more than happy to try and help ware I can but there isn’t even a pm set up on here so it’s difficult to offer private advice , we do however regularly have ones come out with us to learn how to do the job and see how decent van set ups can save a lot of time increasing turnover quite dramatically. Lee Pryor is very successful at what he does I do things very differently and am in a different league to him ,( lower down the food chain ) ime not interested in expanding any more , I have 3 vans and am subbing work out to 12 others at this time due to the shear volume of work since covid , but our profit margins are very high according to my accountant , let’s be honest here it’s not rocket science to run a window cleaning business anyone with half a brain should be able to do it , running 20 vans isn’t any different to running one , just needs a lot more organisation , and customers the principal is exact he same . I have no business qualifications at all ime very practical but no good with paper work but very good at getting work and pricing it well , turnover means nothing it’s profit after all expenses that’s important, or that’s what I have always worked on anyway .
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I would also add that talking to someone about what you want to do means nothing you need capital,if you are going down the route of expanding unless you want to reach where you want to be and be retiring age the following week you need cash to put in.
The kind of cash you’ll need is not a small business or bounce back loan it’s house purchasing mortgage sized funds,don’t pay some mug 4-500 notes to tell you to finance another van and have a massive marketing campaign,.that might have worked 10 or 15 yeses ago but not these days the customers are not as plentiful.
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Have you ever employed Stoots I’m not sure you have m8 but those figures don’t add up to anywhere near enough,in this game you can’t guarantee you will work everyday that’s why people on here that do employ are hellbent on working in terrible conditions weather wise coz they have to.
Earn 300 next day you don’t work that previous day gets chopped in half so on and so forth for subsequent days off,
I had 1 month last year that I had to pay a months wages coz he was sick unexpected van repairs,the month before 2k to Grippa lol,the best scenario is stay small get someone working full time and take a part time wage for doing nothing 🤣,
The problem you have mate is you talking about the north as if its the south.
I understand you work in an affluent area charging affluent prices.
I dont think you've managed to grasp the north/south divide. You act as though it doesn't exist which is understandable as if you've always eaten caviar then I guess you assume everyone does lol
25k up here isn't a part time wage, it's a very respectable income. I dont know many people earning that it's enough to get you a reasonable standard of living.
350 a day should be plenty. 150 to cover wages and all costs 200 in pre tax profit.
£25k after tax is take home of £1700 it is an AVG wage up here for a low skilled job but it's not even paying the basics.. rent is on avg £700 pm mortgages now apparently £1k you JUST pay bills on that I think.
My wife at best can work PT once both kids are in school so £25k is nowhere near enough for a family imo.
Maybe I'm unrealistic here but I hoped to build a business an it be able to give me a decent family income as a minimum and to be able to grow to a few vans and have a comfortable living as a business owner but atm it's a job at best.
I'm not sure why you feel responsible to give someone a high earning job.
The job is what it is, its a low skilled anyone can do job. Its a rung above working in a factory on minimum wage.
As you've discovered you simply can't pay someone 40k a year in an area that can't sustain that due to prices.
There's a few big company's round here and they all pay about 12 quid an hour full time. Which to me is about right for the job in this area.
There no point comparing your business to Pryor who works down south.
Living costs are crippling everyone but if someone wants to earn good money then they should be aiming above an employed window cleaner.
I know plenty of people working full time for less than 25k. Either their partner works or they are claiming benefits.
You say it's an average wage. Average is good isn't it lot better than minimum wage job.
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Lee Pryor is Top G no doubt about it but the other lads are very successful at employing too👌
True. But the o/p and Lee's situations are also very different.
Lee was prepared to sacrifice his whole life to focus on his business. From what I remember, he sold his house to invest money in the business and lived with his folks for a while. He was also single and didn't have a family to worry about. He also had the drive to manage and succeed in growing his business. Not many of us have that drive or, dare I say, ability. I haven't.
I very much doubt many would have done what he did; I certainly wouldn't have. My wife did her nut when I purchased an SLX40 back in 2009 when she wanted money to visit Australia. "You didn't need to waste money on a pole you hardly use when I could have put it toward a plane ticket."
When you have a wife and family, everything changes.
When my son joined the business in 2008, we didn't have enough work for the both of us. He purchased an old Peugeot Partner, and I kitted it out with a 500 litre tank. I gave him a full round, which left me with very little, so we canvassed an area where we knew the window cleaner had left. 2 months after son joined the credit crush struck which meant getting new work was more urgent. But we survived. I took us quite a while before I filled my round. It didn't happen 'overnight'. We also lost British Steel on Teesside, but we didn't lose many customers like I envisaged we would.
Times were tight financially. There was enough to buy him an SLX25 as his first pole, but I had to settle for a CLX22 as there wasn't enough money to buy an SLX22 for me.
When you start to employ, your first thought has to be on your employee's welfare. I'm not sure about the op's mindset as he is worried about himself - naturally. His words at the beginning seemed to indicate to me that he would have to come off the tools to run his business. He wrote; ".................... pay someone £25k to do the work while I focus on canvassing and running things off the tools."
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Don’t forget the franchising option. Cheapest way to expand your business.
NWH has never done that either but he is an expert.
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I’d just ask my sister in law for any business advise m8 her and her business are on par with Charlie Mullins lol 😂,I don’t need to try and get 50 vans on the road though fortunately.
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I don't care if you work up North or down South or on the Moon. You must have a Min Price £30
Have you got the balls?
Best advice your ever going to get :o
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15-1700 a month take home is a Nurses wage and is a ridiculous amount to pay someone to do a manual job,they won’t last 3-6 months.
Good luck trying to live on 25k a year.
would you care to tell us more ? which nurses ?
which band ? staff nurse ? ward sister ? matron ? theatre? head of nursing ?bank nurse ? agency nurse ?
why do you spout poo on things you know little about ?
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Lol you silly boy I know a polish male Nurse he takes home 1500 a month he’s got 3 kids he spends 1200 a month on the food bills and the odd car bill,his wife works as a cleaner in a hotel part time and earns half as much.
Matrons if they work independently they can earn more because they have the ability to be able to prescribe etc,Sisters and Nurses the pay difference is minimal after Tax either way it’s 💩 pay.
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Lol you silly boy I know a polish male Nurse he takes home 1500 a month he’s got 3 kids he spends 1200 a month on the food bills and the odd car bill,his wife works as a cleaner in a hotel part time and earns half as much.
Matrons if they work independently they can earn more because they have the ability to be able to prescribe etc,Sisters and Nurses the pay difference is minimal after Tax either way it’s 💩 pay.
just as I thought .... you know very little ... my partner is a nurse , so I would know a little bit more than you.
I rest my case ;D
one thing I do know is that she takes home quite a bit more than that ;D
little boy ;D
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Lol you silly boy I know a polish male Nurse he takes home 1500 a month he’s got 3 kids he spends 1200 a month on the food bills and the odd car bill,his wife works as a cleaner in a hotel part time and earns half as much.
Matrons if they work independently they can earn more because they have the ability to be able to prescribe etc,Sisters and Nurses the pay difference is minimal after Tax either way it’s 💩 pay.
If he’s spending £300 a week on food I think he may be over eating
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There’s loads of different grades with Nursing at the end of the day these days it’s pocket money wages,the kind Stoots is thinking of paying 😂
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This thread is descending. Who knew...
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Bet the op is wondering why he bothered asking for advice .
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Lol you silly boy I know a polish male Nurse he takes home 1500 a month he’s got 3 kids he spends 1200 a month on the food bills and the odd car bill,his wife works as a cleaner in a hotel part time and earns half as much.
Matrons if they work independently they can earn more because they have the ability to be able to prescribe etc,Sisters and Nurses the pay difference is minimal after Tax either way it’s 💩 pay.
I dont understand whats wrong with you , you seem like your just some fantasist. If he is on that money then he is an auxillary not an RGN , in other words he didn't go to uni and get a degree ............ not knocking his job , he is doing something very worthwhile, unlike you!
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He is doing a very very worthwhile job he does like a moan though.
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I don't care if you work up North or down South or on the Moon. You must have a Min Price £30
Have you got the balls?
Best advice your ever going to get :o
Could be a good idea.
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Feeling the love gentlemen ;D
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Feeling the love gentlemen ;D
I really don't understand the hate towards you Lee at all.it must be just pure jealousy.
Personally I'm very happy with my well paid part time round but if I was thinking of employing I wouldn't hesitate to contact you for advice.
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Don’t forget the franchising option. Cheapest way to expand your business.
NWH has never done that either but he is an expert.
True, but again the o/p would need to put the needs of his franchisee first. One of those needs would be enough work to satisfy the needs of his new recruit, which, again, would leave him with very little work for himself. Yes, there is an initial franchise fee, but most of that would be taken up with equipment purchases. The o/p would need to seek more business and do nearly all the first cleans. So he isn't going to be well out of pocket to begin with. The monthly % he takes off each job completed in the future can only be classed as the cream and not the cake itself.
One of the local lads has a franchise business here. He works hard himself on the tools as well as then taking care of all the other needs of his franchisees. I chat to him from time to time. It's not a position I would like to do as it's very stressful.