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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Stoots on June 25, 2023, 06:28:57 pm
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i did my first gutter job for a couple of years last week.
£50 for a 3 bed semi and it took me 20 minutes from unpack to put away.
I think i may have been missing a trick all this time, fsg and conny roofs i dont really like at all but whipping round with a vac for 20 mins was a piece of the proverbial urine.
Anyone do a lot of them domestically and earn good coin ? one of those every day wouldnt be bad... on the downside i dont think i could go much higher price wise round here but still.
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Yes we do loads per year very good earner many are several hundred pounds per clean on larger properties so it’s very good money
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If you had listened to those that have been doing for a few years you would know its a money maker - I don't sing its praises anymore on here as there are too many who either think your willy waving - exaggerating - or lying - I don't different so does splash ;D
for me what you quoted is low end I might do a small semi bungalow for that but house certainly not and 20 mins is about right for 90% of clears - you do get the odd toughie...
Darran
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I remember once doing a vac job that really put me off. It was absolutely solid nothing would budge and me not having a ladder I really struggled for about 4 hours for 100 quid. I ended up soaking the gutters with the wfp to loosen it all up. There water and mud dripping all over and most of what i removed was knocked out rather than sucked out lol It put me right off. But on the other hand the rest have mainly been done in 30 mins tops.
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I find using the gutter vac good money as it only takes about 10 minutes per side if not to bad
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I find using the gutter vac good money as it only takes about 10 minutes per side if not to bad
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So good you named it twice ;D
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Do you have a big Generator in the vans Darren ? or just use customers electric ?
A guy local to me carries a small generator and a sky vac atom, he swears this is enough for domestic work im just wondering if its worth getting a bigger vac. I have a small vac myself similar to the atom and its been fine so far but i can imagine the day will come when its not.
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Genny on each van - I have 60 meters of artic flex on 2 reels so it stays in the van apart from bigger/commercial jobs
Darran
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Genny on each van - I have 60 meters of artic flex on 2 reels so it stays in the van apart from bigger/commercial jobs
Darran
what size genny is that ? and what size vacs are you running ?
thanks
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Do you have a big Generator in the vans Darren ? or just use customers electric ?
A guy local to me carries a small generator and a sky vac atom, he swears this is enough for domestic work im just wondering if its worth getting a bigger vac. I have a small vac myself similar to the atom and its been fine so far but i can imagine the day will come when its not.
Don't bother with a genny , waste of money, waste of van space, un necessary lugging about...
I have used gutter vacs for 13 years and have never had a problem using customers electricity.
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Do you have a big Generator in the vans Darren ? or just use customers electric ?
A guy local to me carries a small generator and a sky vac atom, he swears this is enough for domestic work im just wondering if its worth getting a bigger vac. I have a small vac myself similar to the atom and its been fine so far but i can imagine the day will come when its not.
Don't bother with a genny , waste of money, waste of van space, un necessary lugging about...
I have used gutter vacs for 13 years and have never had a problem using customers electricity.
You won't have any issue if your vac is 3000 watts or less - main issue is time faffing with customer getting to a socket and or waiting to open the door - some days we have 15 gutter clears - easier to use a genny.
I have a 6.5 and 8 KVA but I think for a 3000 watt you can use 5 KVa - no humping it about it stays on the van - and all our sockets are waterproof 16 amp not normal 3 pin13 amp
Darran
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Do you have a big Generator in the vans Darren ? or just use customers electric ?
A guy local to me carries a small generator and a sky vac atom, he swears this is enough for domestic work im just wondering if its worth getting a bigger vac. I have a small vac myself similar to the atom and its been fine so far but i can imagine the day will come when its not.
Don't bother with a genny , waste of money, waste of van space, un necessary lugging about...
I have used gutter vacs for 13 years and have never had a problem using customers electricity.
You won't have any issue if your vac is 3000 watts or less - main issue is time faffing with customer getting to a socket and or waiting to open the door - some days we have 15 gutter clears - easier to use a genny.
I have a 6.5 and 8 KVA but I think for a 3000 watt you can use 5 KVa - no humping it about it stays on the van - and all our sockets are waterproof 16 amp not normal 3 pin13 amp
Darran
No faffing about here, the vast majority of customers have outside sockets these days ;D
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20 minutes to do two gutters sounds fast to me........is the from pull up to leaving or from being set up to finishing........do you check the gutters are clear?
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20 minutes to do two gutters sounds fast to me........is the from pull up to leaving or from being set up to finishing........do you check the gutters are clear?
To be fair it was a rough guess, at the moment i just have a mirror rather than a camera, so whizz round with the vac going by feel, when i think its done clip mirror on quick inspection then off...
I dont expect all jobs to be that easy but if gutters arent blocked and just have an inch or so of debris in then its very fast
Some people ive asked just go by feel then others use a camera.....
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We only use a camera if it’s commercial - otherwise it’s done by feel - do a few and you become really aware of the condition without a camera
Darran
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Always by feel, it’s not hard to detect stuff in the gutters, as Darran says it’s with experience you don’t need a camera for domestic gutters
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I like to know the gutters are cleared properly so I use a camera....I have missed plenty of stuff before going by "feel"....I have a camera set up on another pole it takes a few mins to check not doing so is just plain lazy and i guarantee there's stuff being missed sometimes.
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I like to know the gutters are cleared properly so I use a camera....I have missed plenty of stuff before going by "feel"....I have a camera set up on another pole it takes a few mins to check not doing so is just plain lazy and i guarantee there's stuff being missed sometimes.
Learn to clear them properly and you won't miss stuff ;D ;D
Darran
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Gutters are a huge money maker. I have used the same Omnipole gutter vac since I started 13 years ago with only one change of motors. I love the gutters for a number of reasons.
I use the customers electric and its so much easier than lugging the genny around and cheaper!
1. I have a minimum charge and the clients know this, I do this for the smaller houses on my round.
2. I get clients to do a once a year service so every 52 weeks ranging from Dec-March.
3 When I send out my emails to tell them we are coming to clean the windows the gutters are included on that visit so we can make more money as we don't need to travel to the same job and less travel time.
4. You get som e clients that need it doing every 26 weeks so an extra money spinner.
5. The hourly rate is so much better than windows.
After a few clears of gutters you get faster and faster at it and can feel hear what is going on with the gutters and also moving the equipment around in an orderly fashion.
I would highly recommend having the longest gutter hose you can get so less movement of the machine etc.
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The old Omnivac - if only we could still get them.... :'(
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The old Omnivac - if only we could still get them.... :'(
That was my first professional gutter vac , I made a couple myself before buying the omnivac but that was a game changer I sold mine to a friend about 4 years ago and it’s still going strong original motors as well it’s done some serious work .
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The old Omnivac - if only we could still get them.... :'(
That was my first professional gutter vac , I made a couple myself before buying the omnivac but that was a game changer I sold mine to a friend about 4 years ago and it’s still going strong original motors as well it’s done some serious work .
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2 questions then. For those that have used them.
Are the omnivac vacs the best or is there a better make now?
Also question for Darren.do you loose suction on 60 meters of artic flex? Ie longer hose less suction?!
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2 questions then. For those that have used them.
Are the omnivac vacs the best or is there a better make now?
Also question for Darren.do you loose suction on 60 meters of artic flex? Ie longer hose less suction?!
The modern vacs are better than the omnivac we now have a Skyvac interceptor which is powered by a Honda petrol engine it’s an awesome thing will lift turfs out of gutters 55 feet high no problem , we also have a couple of smaller mains electric ones for shop fronts and awkward access jobs ,.
As for hose ,length the longer the hose you will loose some suction we generally use 12-15 meter s and dint notice any drop but using 20 meters plus you do notice a difference., the longer hoses also tend to silt up much more and quicker and will need flushing with water more often , we don’t find long hoses are worth using as 15 meters in each direction if putting the vac in the middle of the building will give you 30 meters total working distance before you need to move it so that’s not an issue .
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I cant comment on the interceptor other than it looks a beast
I use 3000 watt Hyundai vacs (£320) - and whiles it works well - esp with side entry fitted - I wonder if its just quite as good as the old Omnivac...
Other than industrial stuff it handles everything we ask of it
Normally we are like splash 15 meter hose - I honestly cant think of the last time we needed to add another section of suction hose
Darran
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I was just considering whether to buy a hyundai 3000w and add a side entry or invest in something like the predator/skyvac etc but surely the named machines can't be worth over a grand more ?
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I like to know the gutters are cleared properly so I use a camera....I have missed plenty of stuff before going by "feel"....I have a camera set up on another pole it takes a few mins to check not doing so is just plain lazy and i guarantee there's stuff being missed sometimes.
Learn to clear them properly and you won't miss stuff ;D ;D
Darran
I clean them out properly as i use the camera to make sure.
You should call yourself "Odd Bodge" mate ;D
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Absolutely made 😆😆😆
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The Hyundai is 18 months old and going strong - take your pick
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My gutter sucker jnr burnt itself out so ive replaced it with this little yellow thing off ebay. 85 quid. Seems to have more power than the gutter sucker did....(its 1600w compared to the 1500w in the Jnr). Just goes to show how much profit they make by re badging simple wet/dry vacs.
Its just waiting a side entry inlet ive ordered then i will give it a bash on a job next week.
And yes i will be getting a bigger vac as well but interested to see how this performs.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1688058270_vaccys (1).jpg)
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My gutter sucker jnr burnt itself out so ive replaced it with this little yellow thing off ebay. 85 quid. Seems to have more power than the gutter sucker did....(its 1600w compared to the 1500w in the Jnr). Just goes to show how much profit they make by re badging simple wet/dry vacs.
Its just waiting a side entry inlet ive ordered then i will give it a bash on a job next week.
And yes i will be getting a bigger vac as well but interested to see how this performs.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1688058270_vaccys (1).jpg)
Your gonna be forever emptying that out if you get a big job that's heavily soiled ;D
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The good thing about small vacs is , yes you have to empty them more but they are easy to do so. My sky vac commercial is heavy as hell when full ( you don’t realise how much is in it once you get started). My sky vac atom fills up quicker but I’m not breaking my back trying to lift it up and empty it in the bin
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My gutter sucker jnr burnt itself out so ive replaced it with this little yellow thing off ebay. 85 quid. Seems to have more power than the gutter sucker did....(its 1600w compared to the 1500w in the Jnr). Just goes to show how much profit they make by re badging simple wet/dry vacs.
Its just waiting a side entry inlet ive ordered then i will give it a bash on a job next week.
And yes i will be getting a bigger vac as well but interested to see how this performs.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1688058270_vaccys (1).jpg)
Your gonna be forever emptying that out if you get a big job that's heavily soiled ;D
im tempted to take the motor out and put it in the old vac which is a bit bigger drum but dont want to blow it up.
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For anyone that may be interest in vacs ive been doing a lot of internet searching for a machine
It appears this
https://www.superclean-pw.co.uk/industrial-vacuum-cleaners/soteco-play-440m-wetdry-vacuum-cleaner/ £515
is exactly the same as the xline £691
https://www.xline-systems.co.uk/shop/xline-3500w-gutter-vacuum-triple-motor/
and this beauty (think im going to get this)
https://spareandsquare.co.uk/products/ipc-gs-3-78-wet-and-dry-vacuum-cleaner-78-litre-3600w-240v £538
looks to be the exact vac that is the gutter sucker expert £1086!
https://guttersuckerdirect.co.uk/product/guttersucker-expert-vacuum-only/
This looks to be the gutter sucker bandit
https://www.ipcworldwide.com/product/ys-245-wd/ but i cant find a price or a uk stockist
theres a few other ipc vacs that look great but again its finding a stockist that will be in the uk or ship
https://www.ipcworldwide.com/products/vacuum-cleaners/
you are welcome chaps
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The machine you put up comparing the gutter sucker is a 3600 w the gutter sucker is only 3300w...stick a side entry inlet on that it would be a beast ;D nice find.
Saying that I would still probably get the 3600w from gvs for 645 including hose and the decent inlet.
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The machine you put up comparing the gutter sucker is a 3600 w the gutter sucker is only 3300w...stick a side entry inlet on that it would be a beast ;D nice find.
Saying that I would still probably get the 3600w from gvs for 645 including hose and the decent inlet.
It's the exact same machine, there's probably an error in the listing on one of the sites but its the exact same.
Zoom in on a picture of the gutter sucker expert back of the head and it says on the label IPC GS 3/78 ;)
And yes I've seen the gvs one at 650 but I reckon the vac will be inferior, these ipc vacs use amatek motors bet that has cheaper motors. Its the same as the kiam 3600w for £500 it will be a Chinese thing like the maxblast on crack.
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The machine you put up comparing the gutter sucker is a 3600 w the gutter sucker is only 3300w...stick a side entry inlet on that it would be a beast ;D nice find.
Saying that I would still probably get the 3600w from gvs for 645 including hose and the decent inlet.
It's the exact same machine, there's probably an error in the listing on one of the sites but its the exact same.
Zoom in on a picture of the gutter sucker expert back of the head and it says on the label IPC GS 3/78 ;)
And yes I've seen the gvs one at 650 but I reckon the vac will be inferior, these ipc vacs use amatek motors bet that has cheaper motors. Its the same as the kiam 3600w for £500 it will be a Chinese thing like the maxblast on crack.
Not sure what motors gvs use I have one of their 3000w machines ,had it 4 years now all motors still going strong.
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IPC vac will be very credible - Amatek motors are excellent.
for the cost I use a cheap Chinese vac - they do the work last 2 years blow up - buy another for around the price of a single amatek motor
Darran
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But where can you source the correct poles and flexi hose for the IPC?
Also, do you just blank off the front entry port and fit a side entry?
I nearly bought the gutter sucker expert a few weeks ago but been put off by the price!
So just had a look again and thinking of getting that ipc vac, then the clamped pole set from gutter sucker, works out cheaper. Unless someone can recommend a pole set and hose from elsewhere? Also where to you source the side entry port?
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The one thing that drives me mad about gutter vacuuming is when your poles get jammed together on a job and you can’t get them back in the van without breaking a few. I always keep them clean as I know grit in the joints can jam them together somehow. Yesterday I was vaccing a gutter over a kitchen extension so my poles were near enough horizontal, put them on the ground and 4 sections were jammed! Spent 20 minutes flushing them with a hosepipe, then drying each joint and finally twisting to get them apart. I have got multiple sections though that iv had to break on the job just to get them back in the van and cut down at home
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Can't you fit a side entry inlet over the original outlet ?
But if not then blank it wouldn't be too hard.
As for the inlet and hoses you can get them loads of places. Anderson trade do the 51mm inlet and hoses cheap.
The only worry I would have with buying a 3600w vac is it may start tripping people's rcd/fuses. 3000w is usually the limit for house electrics you might need a big genny.
I haven't looked into the poles
I've only got 44mm carbon push fit poles at the minute but I love them so light and easy to use compared to thr 51mm alloy I've had before. I'm going to see how I get on with them before looking at some 51mm carbon.
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The one thing that drives me mad about gutter vacuuming is when your poles get jammed together on a job and you can’t get them back in the van without breaking a few. I always keep them clean as I know grit in the joints can jam them together somehow. Yesterday I was vaccing a gutter over a kitchen extension so my poles were near enough horizontal, put them on the ground and 4 sections were jammed! Spent 20 minutes flushing them with a hosepipe, then drying each joint and finally twisting to get them apart. I have got multiple sections though that iv had to break on the job just to get them back in the van and cut down at home
I have had the grippa poles jam together but never had aproblem with the gvs poles.
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The one thing that drives me mad about gutter vacuuming is when your poles get jammed together on a job and you can’t get them back in the van without breaking a few. I always keep them clean as I know grit in the joints can jam them together somehow. Yesterday I was vaccing a gutter over a kitchen extension so my poles were near enough horizontal, put them on the ground and 4 sections were jammed! Spent 20 minutes flushing them with a hosepipe, then drying each joint and finally twisting to get them apart. I have got multiple sections though that iv had to break on the job just to get them back in the van and cut down at home
I have had the grippa poles jam together but never had aproblem with the gvs poles.
Yeah my spinaclean poles jam all the time , I bought a new set last year and a pole snapped on the first job , not happy but they replaced it.
I’m really impressed with the strength of these gvs poles though, iv stood on one of my poles in the past by accident and it split straight away.
https://youtu.be/9ucGNgUe8x4
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Can't you fit a side entry inlet over the original outlet ?
But if not then blank it wouldn't be too hard.
As for the inlet and hoses you can get them loads of places. Anderson trade do the 51mm inlet and hoses cheap.
The only worry I would have with buying a 3600w vac is it may start tripping people's rcd/fuses. 3000w is usually the limit for house electrics you might need a big genny.
I haven't looked into the poles
I've only got 44mm carbon push fit poles at the minute but I love them so light and easy to use compared to thr 51mm alloy I've had before. I'm going to see how I get on with them before looking at some 51mm carbon.
Should be ok as you can use just two of the motors, reducing power…
Not sure if you gab use the same port, don’t see why not…
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Just picked up a little genny for it all good to go
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If you want a quality vacuum hose then go to Century hoses - you can get a 30 meter coil and cut into 2 - gives you a spare or extra length for any weird jobs.
50mm full carbon modular poles from carbon fibre tubes - these are 2meters each (min order 5) and as tough as old boots - modular but rarely stick together
Side entry will fit over the original - a little cutting required for the shape of the side entry - then just twist the drum in the holder so it points forward.
Darran
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https://hyundaipowerequipment.co.uk/hyundai-hyvi10030-3000w-3-in-1-wet-dry-electric-hepa-filtration-vacuum-cleaner?bcndyn=d2lkOjQyMnxjaWQ6NTM3&gad_id=663156420927&utm_campaign=Google&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnf-kBhCnARIsAFlg490-DEh_4sTJOTaRLZY0NQ7ZtewXPVNexsF7hHOg4NBTuvtm3GngneMaArSUEALw_wcB
This the vac you use Darran?
Been umming and ahrhing about this one for a while!
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We use GVS yellow hose it’s very good doesn’t hold much silt , resists kinking and is light weight and very robust as regards to damage
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Yes looks like the one
Darran
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Yes looks like the one
Darran
And can you easily convert to side entry? Can’t see any screws in the port on the huyundai.
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Think they are on the inside - otherwise breakout off ;D
Darran
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Think they are on the inside - otherwise breakout off ;D
Darran
Good good, just don’t want to buy it and end up wrecking the drum!
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I've just fitted my side Inlet
Tip : buy the one on ebay with a gasket and bolts it's 35 quid.
I thought I was being clever buying one from Anderson trade for 23 quid. Of course it didn't come with a gasket or bolts did it...
I had to make a template out of paper then use that to draw on the machine. I then couldn't find my tin snips so ended up using a angle grider and a metal file. Far too big for the job it was a right fiddle. Then I went to b and q for some bolts and of course could find the right size so had to buy some long ones and cut them down with a grinder. I've ended up using black silicone instead of a gasket as could find owt to use.
Over all about 2 hours longer than it needed to be. Get some tin snips !
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Sounds a faff,
I’ve asked gutter sucker if they will sell me a side entry port so I can use there clamped poles and hose.
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Sounds a faff,
I’ve asked gutter sucker if they will sell me a side entry port so I can use there clamped poles and hose.
Everything's a faff with the wrong tools and poor planning.
It would have been easy with the gasket kit. Draw round it , tin snips and drill some holes. I made a 20min job into 3 hours.
Are clamped a lot better than push fit? Do they stop them getting stuck or other benefit ?
I've used clamped alloy poles before I found them a faff compared to my push fit but they were old and had to be tightened with bolts rather than a lever.
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https://icmuk.co.uk/products/ipc-gs-3-78-oil/
I've just come across this. Same ipc vac but it's says oil ? Not sure what the difference would be guessing it's made to clean oil.. but it appears it has a side entry.
They are only 20 mins from me so I'll give them a ring tomorrow and hopefully be able to go have a nosey they have some other ipc machines as well
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Nice Vac - What price ? - I would certainly consider one if it worked out just a couple of hundred ore than the Hyundai
They are for workshop use where you suck up cutting fluids etc, certainly good for gutter vac'ing
Darran
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Nice Vac - What price ? - I would certainly consider one if it worked out just a couple of hundred ore than the Hyundai
They are for workshop use where you suck up cutting fluids etc, certainly good for gutter vac'ing
Darran
I'm not sure yet I need to ring them but I've seen the front entry one online for 550
If its that price range from a local company who can supply spares etc I think it makes more sense than the hyundai I shall find out .
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Is that a 3600 watt?
I think I’d prefer 3000w max so I can always use standard uk power supply’s.
Also, check it comes with all the right filters etc…
I’m thinking this one
https://spareandsquare.co.uk/products/ipc-gp-2-62-wet-and-dry-vacuum-cleaner-62-litre-2800w-240v?variant=44264507408634&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwISlBhD6ARIsAESAmp5YBMU0KSgY8v9AT9A2ra61I3mNQiIoY5pzKao2TxxAUiaUE_N2R44aAh1bEALw_wcB
Or the huyunadai…
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Is that a 3600 watt?
I think I’d prefer 3000w max so I can always use standard uk power supply’s.
Also, check it comes with all the right filters etc…
I’m thinking this one
https://spareandsquare.co.uk/products/ipc-gp-2-62-wet-and-dry-vacuum-cleaner-62-litre-2800w-240v?variant=44264507408634&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwISlBhD6ARIsAESAmp5YBMU0KSgY8v9AT9A2ra61I3mNQiIoY5pzKao2TxxAUiaUE_N2R44aAh1bEALw_wcB
Or the huyunadai…
Yes it's 3600w you would probably want a big genny to be safe although a lot use the predator vac which is also 3600w.
But you could run it on 2 motors and then have the third in reserve for when you want to suck the roof off the house :D
That 2800w twin motor ipc looks a great mid sized machine. I'd take that over the hyundai all day long at that price. Bare in mind the hyundai is 100l it will be very big which may or may not be good depending on what you want. But 2800w in a 62 litre drum may well create more vacuum than a 3000w in a 100l drum.
Thing is with me if I got the 2800w one and it was really good I'd be thinking hmm if this is good wonder what the 3600 is like probably end up buying both ;D
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Yeah it’s only cos the Hyundai is cheaper ;D
Might go for the 2800 watt one.
Decisions…
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https://icmuk.co.uk/products/ipc-gs-3-78-oil/
I've just come across this. Same ipc vac but it's says oil ? Not sure what the difference would be guessing it's made to clean oil.. but it appears it has a side entry.
They are only 20 mins from me so I'll give them a ring tomorrow and hopefully be able to go have a nosey they have some other ipc machines as well
GVS used to use that vac
https://youtu.be/QZ5nOJuN6ds
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Any tips for reducing hose blockages ? Or is it just one of them things. My poles are 44m so think the hose is a bit narrower than the standard 51mm.
Did a job this morning took 40 mins. Could have done it in 20 but I had to unblock the hose about 6 times it was doing my head in. Stones were the main culprit I think.
Would wider hose help ? Also what's the best way to unblock I tried sucking water through but too blocked to work so ended up just beating it on the floor and of course all the crap kept spilling out all over the place ;D it's a messy game
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Stones in the gutter?
51mm gonna be way better!
I’ve got 44mm at the mo and find it ok, but my issue is blockage at the goosneck part.
That’s why I’m going to get the quick release pole from gutter sucker direct, you twist the pole and the clumps fall out the goosneck
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Any tips for reducing hose blockages ? Or is it just one of them things. My poles are 44m so think the hose is a bit narrower than the standard 51mm.
Did a job this morning took 40 mins. Could have done it in 20 but I had to unblock the hose about 6 times it was doing my head in. Stones were the main culprit I think.
Would wider hose help ? Also what's the best way to unblock I tried sucking water through but too blocked to work so ended up just beating it on the floor and of course all the crap kept spilling out all over the place ;D it's a messy game
That’s the other good thing about the atom - it has a suck and blow function, my hose got jammed a few times and I switch it to blow and all the crap blasts out . Other than that , you could trying flushing it out with a hose pipe or every now and then , let your vacuum chug half a bucket of water to continually keep it clean
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51mm all the way
yes the bucket of water is always handy but if very blocked then turn the hose around
beating it to death although satisfying - tends to shorten hose life ;D
Darran
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In all the years we have been vaccing must be around 18 I cannot remember having a hose block on a side entry vac on a front entry yes they can , we use 51 mm I wouldn’t bother with smaller hose or poles much quicker and very rare to get any blockage apart from silt which a bucket of water will sort out
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In all the years we have been vaccing must be around 18 I cannot remember having a hose block on a side entry vac on a front entry yes they can , we use 51 mm I wouldn’t bother with smaller hose or poles much quicker and very rare to get any blockage apart from silt which a bucket of water will sort out
I rarely get a blockage , bone dry pine needles are the worst culprit.
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In all the years we have been vaccing must be around 18 I cannot remember having a hose block on a side entry vac on a front entry yes they can , we use 51 mm I wouldn’t bother with smaller hose or poles much quicker and very rare to get any blockage apart from silt which a bucket of water will sort out
I rarely get a blockage , bone dry pine needles are the worst culprit.
A powerful vac seams to bend them in half and suck them through the 51 ml hose don't usually have any problem with them
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Maybe is because its only a small vac then I'll have to get a big one soon
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In all the years we have been vaccing must be around 18 I cannot remember having a hose block on a side entry vac on a front entry yes they can , we use 51 mm I wouldn’t bother with smaller hose or poles much quicker and very rare to get any blockage apart from silt which a bucket of water will sort out
I rarely get a blockage , bone dry pine needles are the worst culprit.
A powerful vac seams to bend them in half and suck them through the 51 ml hose don't usually have any problem with them
I didn't think you'd have a problem.
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In all the years we have been vaccing must be around 18 I cannot remember having a hose block on a side entry vac on a front entry yes they can , we use 51 mm I wouldn’t bother with smaller hose or poles much quicker and very rare to get any blockage apart from silt which a bucket of water will sort out
I rarely get a blockage , bone dry pine needles are the worst culprit.
A powerful vac seams to bend them in half and suck them through the 51 ml hose don't usually have any problem with them
I didn't think you'd have a problem.
We don’t , the only point that does does block occasionally is the bend in the carbon goose neck but it’s only a handful of times in 18 plus years
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Stones in the gutter?
51mm gonna be way better!
I’ve got 44mm at the mo and find it ok, but my issue is blockage at the goosneck part.
That’s why I’m going to get the quick release pole from gutter sucker direct, you twist the pole and the clumps fall out the goosneck
The release pole looks handy but the price is a rip off, they also do a rigid gooseneck at 270 quid :o
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It sure is expensive, I’ve been looking at the kiam poles, they seem more reasonable and are 51mm
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It sure is expensive, I’ve been looking at the kiam poles, they seem more reasonable and are 51mm
Quote from the carbonfibretubes place, these are the 2m modular tubes.
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Interesting.
£300 odd. Not bad
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This is probably better value considering it’s clamped sections and comes with all the gunbbins
https://equip2clean.co.uk/products/20ft-reach-clamped-carbon-fibre-gutter-vacuum-pole-kit-51mm-diameter?variant=44428252741874
I’m thinking this pole set with the huyundai 3000 watt vac. I reckon that’s a good a combo that will deal with anything in its path.
Not sure I can justify the extra price of the ipc machine, I don’t see how it’s going to be better than the huyundai.
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This is probably better value considering it’s clamped sections and comes with all the gunbbins
https://equip2clean.co.uk/products/20ft-reach-clamped-carbon-fibre-gutter-vacuum-pole-kit-51mm-diameter?variant=44428252741874
I’m thinking this pole set with the huyundai 3000 watt vac. I reckon that’s a good a combo that will deal with anything in its path.
Not sure I can justify the extra price of the ipc machine, I don’t see how it’s going to be better than the huyundai.
Forget the hyundai ;D I've just had an email back about the ipc 3/78 machine i enquired about (same as the gutter sucker expert)
It's only 348 plus vat! Bargain
It's more powerfull than the hyundai, should last longer has better motors and will have readily available spares etc.
I've just emailed them back asking to order one.
I might even just get alloy poles for now or make do with my 44mm carbon for a bit. Spend the money on a decent vac and can upgrade the poles if I get busy with it I don't get much as it is so need to start pushing it.
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This is probably better value considering it’s clamped sections and comes with all the gunbbins
https://equip2clean.co.uk/products/20ft-reach-clamped-carbon-fibre-gutter-vacuum-pole-kit-51mm-diameter?variant=44428252741874
I’m thinking this pole set with the huyundai 3000 watt vac. I reckon that’s a good a combo that will deal with anything in its path.
Not sure I can justify the extra price of the ipc machine, I don’t see how it’s going to be better than the huyundai.
Forget the hyundai ;D I've just had an email back about the ipc 3/78 machine i enquired about (same as the gutter sucker expert)
It's only 348 plus vat! Bargain
It's more powerfull than the hyundai, should last longer has better motors and will have readily available spares etc.
I've just emailed them back asking to order one.
I might even just get alloy poles for now or make do with my 44mm carbon for a bit. Spend the money on a decent vac and can upgrade the poles if I get busy with it I don't get much as it is so need to start pushing it.
Is that 3600 watt one?
Who’s the company? I might ask if they do the 2800 watt one!
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Sounds a great price
Darran
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Just got these printed to post through regular customers ,let's see if they do the damage
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She's here and it's quite exciting ;D
Going to have to redo back of van now though I'm acumilating stuff
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Good stuff - 2 motors ?
Darran
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Good stuff - 2 motors ?
Darran
No 3 motors 3300w
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Put a side entry on it that will improve it no end . 3 motors ? Only two switches ?
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Put a side entry on it that will improve it no end . 3 motors ? Only two switches ?
Theres 3 switches and yes it will be getting a side entry
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Can only see 2 - hence the question
Darran
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Decided to go for it and went with Darrens suggestion , the 3000w Hyundai from Ebay £330 . it arrived in 3 days .
Got 15m of the the yellow 51mm hose with the metal side inlet
and 30ft 51mm clamped carbon poles from GVS £970
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Decided to go for it and went with Darrens suggestion , the 3000w Hyundai from Ebay £330 . it arrived in 3 days .
Got 15m of the the yellow 51mm hose with the metal side inlet
and 30ft 51mm clamped carbon poles from GVS £970
Let me know how you get on, what the power like? Bet it’s plenty…
Can you link the hose and side inlet please…
Also, can you let me know if you blanked the original inlet, or have you used it for the side entry?