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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Shrek on June 12, 2023, 11:53:19 am
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Hey guys,
I’m thinking of employing my first guy soon , iv actually worked with this guy back in the days of working for Royal Mail . He is a grafter and iv known him for about 15 years so I know what he’s like.
Now then , looking at the Royal Mail website, their wage is currently £11.59 an hour on a 30 hour contract in the north and £13.59 down south. Is this similar to what others pay their staff? I want to pay him a decent wage because I know he’ll stick at it but not sure how much . I’m not sure he’d jump ship for the same wage but he did say he’d definitely consider it - any help is most appreciated.
I’m at the stage we’re it’s difficult to take days off so this would help loads without actually stop taking on new work.
Cheers
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12 quid seems a decent hourly rate to me
Good luck with it ;D
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12 quid seems a decent hourly rate to me
Good luck with it ;D
I mean minimum wage is £10.40 an hour I think so 20-21k a year on a 30 hour a week flexible contract maybe I’m thinking . My work is all in a 3 mile radius and I’m pretty much working 6 days a week now, so would prefer to cut down a little
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After training and meet the quality standards/targets its £14 to 16 P/h + Bonuses
Darran
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85 a day
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Cheers Darren & Simon , I’m not interested in paying minimum wage - I want to pay someone as decent wage so they’ll do a good job and stick at it - your wages are very respectable
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Pay peanuts get monkeys, our guys are on £120-150 per day plus monthly bonuses for no complaints and hitting targets , paying less than this I found they lacked motivation now they work hard knowing they will be rewarded for there hard work the more they do the more they earn but not at the expense of quality.
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No complaints I wish I could say the same about my bloke I’m going to Howlett’s Zoo next week to get another one.
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No complaints I wish I could say the same about my bloke I’m going to Howlett’s Zoo next week to get another one.
Like I said pay peanuts get monkeys been there and done that 😂😂😂
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There daily targets must be high then paying £150 a day ?
Thats a brilliant crack for an employee
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There daily targets must be high then paying £150 a day ?
Thats a brilliant crack for an employee
Yes it keeps them motivated and they can earn a considerable bonus come the end of the month with extra work completed, this benefit s them and me .
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There daily targets must be high then paying £150 a day ?
Thats a brilliant crack for an employee
this works very well and as you say keeps the quality up there
better than the alternative getting cr@p pay and working for a complete t!t
Darran
Yes it keeps them motivated and they can earn a considerable bonus come the end of the month with extra work completed, this benefit s them and me .
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Pay peanuts get monkeys, our guys are on £120-150 per day plus monthly bonuses for no complaints and hitting targets , paying less than this I found they lacked motivation now they work hard knowing they will be rewarded for there hard work the more they do the more they earn but not at the expense of quality.
I don’t think they’ll earn that kinda money at many jobs , sounds awesome- is that a 40hr 5 days a week job?
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Around here its nearly all min wage - and a lot is seasonal so no work after sept through to April
this also includes lates, nights and Sunday work for the same rate
Darran
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Pay peanuts get monkeys, our guys are on £120-150 per day plus monthly bonuses for no complaints and hitting targets , paying less than this I found they lacked motivation now they work hard knowing they will be rewarded for there hard work the more they do the more they earn but not at the expense of quality.
I don’t think they’ll earn that kinda money at many jobs , sounds awesome- is that a 40hr 5 days a week job?
Yes 40 hours a week they can do more and earn more if they want by starting early and finishing late it’s there choice they don’t have to but the option is there if they want it . We are that busy at the moment we are booked up until September on addons so plenty of opportunities for them 😂😂😂
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That’s good money on the cards with all they get with it would think one of your jobs would be sort after.
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That’s good money on the cards with all they get with it would think one of your jobs would be sort after.
I only take on people I know now , had ones in the past that I didn’t know and they turned out to be wasters on their phones drinking tea all the time , they think I don’t know what they are up to but I know what’s achievable as ime still on the tools myself so no what they should be doing per day , I have an excellent team but it’s taken a lot of time and hard work to achieve it , but now it benefits all of us and they all pull their weight as they know what they can earn in extras each month it they work hard .
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Still a very good deal for them on a basic salary though some people you would keep for life.
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Fair play splash thats great wages
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Just to follow on from this , I know it’s faster from what iv heard to have one guy in each van (depending on your work) but what percentage of extra work can be done with 2 guys one can? If I could did £100 of work on my own in a day (for example not real figures) , how much extra would another guy add in a day to that £100?
Probably not twice the amount but is it another 30/40% maybe?
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Just to follow on from this , I know it’s faster from what iv heard to have one guy in each van (depending on your work) but what percentage of extra work can be done with 2 guys one can? If I could did £100 of work on my own in a day (for example not real figures) , how much extra would another guy add in a day to that £100?
Probably not twice the amount but is it another 30/40% maybe?
yes... its about 40% extra.
At the moment I have my son with me until he goes to uni ...I am 51 and he is 20 and very fit.
It is so much easier . He will be living at when he goes to uni, but wont be able to work as much . I will miss him
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Yes I would say about 50% extra - ie.. for every £100 a single operator can do it would be bout £150 for a pair - general domestic window work.
However large jobs - gutter facing and bespoke works its very close to double
Darran
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Thanks guys
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It will depend on the type of work we do a lot of large commercial so two guys in one van is how we work and they will each do very similar amounts of work , with domestic it’s very Siri say as it depends on the type of work we also have estates of houses ware we do the vast majority of houses and again each guy is doing 4-6 houses per hour , but if a lot of driving and doing one house hear and there then it will not be cost effective,
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Do any of you guys who employ provide a full uniform ie t-shirt/hoody with company logo , shorts , trousers , boots & rain jacket?
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Yeah I would do but when I phoned up to order they said we don’t stock anything for chimpanzees I’m afraid 🤣🤣🤣
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Do any of you guys who employ provide a full uniform ie t-shirt/hoody with company logo , shorts , trousers , boots & rain jacket?
I assumed all employers would do that.
Actually most places ive worked supply tops/hoodys/fleece and let staff be responsible for the boots/trousers
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Yeah I would do but when I phoned up to order they said we don’t stock anything for chimpanzees I’m afraid 🤣🤣🤣
Troll sizes are quite difficult to get so I hear….
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Yes-
T shirt or polos x 5
Trousers x 2
Sweatshirt x2
Body warmer
Jacket
Beanie and baseball cap
Steel toecap wellies for p/w
Full waterproofs
Safety glasses
Gloves
PPE
Darran
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Yeah I would do but when I phoned up to order they said we don’t stock anything for chimpanzees I’m afraid 🤣🤣🤣
Troll sizes are quite difficult to get so I hear….
They said where does he live I said under the nearest bridge lol.
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Thank you , I’m just putting together an offer of employment
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Do any of you guys who employ provide a full uniform ie t-shirt/hoody with company logo , shorts , trousers , boots & rain jacket?
Yes. Polo shirts, hoodies, water proofs, cool max socks, shorts, trousers, and (my personal favourite) Craghoppers trousers that can convert to shorts. In addition, gloves for the winter and any other PPE they want.
I’m not fussy about what trousers they wear as long as they’re smart. If they want slightly different workwear to what’s provided, it’s fine as long as it can be embroidered with the logo and looks smart. We pay for it all.
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Do any of you guys who employ provide a full uniform ie t-shirt/hoody with company logo , shorts , trousers , boots & rain jacket?
Yes all staff have polo shirts and jumpers with company name and phone numbers on them , high vis jackets and normal jackets
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Anyone worked out how much a van costs to run (on average) for the month, Inc insurance, say a small to medium van, fuel etc etc. I would then work back from there to see if an extra person adds up....no real point if your not making any extra money!! (After wages paid etc)
Cheers
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Anyone worked out how much a van costs to run (on average) for the month, Inc insurance, say a small to medium van, fuel etc etc. I would then work back from there to see if an extra person adds up....no real point if your not making any extra money!! (After wages paid etc)
Cheers
Theses figures will vary from person to person you might only drive 50 miles in a week others might do 400 per week ,and the same is true of all other expenses as well , it it wasn’t viable people wouldn’t do it .
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Do any of you guys who employ provide a full uniform ie t-shirt/hoody with company logo , shorts , trousers , boots & rain jacket?
Yes. And loads of training.
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Don’t forget employer’s liability.
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We pay £120 a day.
Good luck!
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Anyone worked out how much a van costs to run (on average) for the month, Inc insurance, say a small to medium van, fuel etc etc. I would then work back from there to see if an extra person adds up....no real point if your not making any extra money!! (After wages paid etc)
Cheers
I think if your going to employ your first one , then there is going to be a period of time where you are both smashing through the work what you used to do on your own so you are going to be earning less to begin with but you’ll gain time in which you can build more work