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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Perfect Windows on April 10, 2023, 08:44:34 am

Title: Always late
Post by: Perfect Windows on April 10, 2023, 08:44:34 am
On plenty of threads, people say they are always late. Why bother?

Genuine question, why do you do it?  You don't gain a single penny by having an overfull round. Wouldn't you be better putting your prices up or dropping the people you don't like doing?

Vin
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: DJW on April 10, 2023, 09:27:40 am
I’m always late because …….
Bank holidays I don’t work
Don’t work weekends to catch up
Don’t tend to work in 50mph winds and horizontal rain
Like a holiday now and again.
Have plenty of work and don’t employ.
Therefore I can only ever drop behind schedule, it never goes the other way.

Commercial work may vary a bit but the invoicing is always bang on.
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: tlwcs on April 10, 2023, 09:34:20 am
I’m only 3 days a week now but before I only ever scheduled work over 4 days  allowing a day off, catch up or new work, van service.. never wanted to be behind.
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: Pete Thompson on April 10, 2023, 10:15:11 am
It depends what exactly you plan to do.

If you only ever want to work on your own and never employ, then yes it’s time to refine and drop or sell the least profitable work.

If you are building towards taking on a worker, then it makes sense to stretch your timescale so that you’ve got some extra work when your worker starts. You can then start doing everything on time and you have a head start on getting more work for your employee.
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: NWH on April 10, 2023, 10:19:16 am
You need loads more work for a full time employee,loads more.
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: Stoots on April 10, 2023, 10:51:57 am
I was late all the time because i was building work for an employee, now im up to date ;D

But honestly when i was solo it was a securty thing, financially it makes zero differerence but being a week behind feels a lot more secure than being bang up to date. Having no work due is quite scary and having no work due when employing is stressfull.
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: NWH on April 10, 2023, 10:54:59 am
And they still have to be paid I think people underestimate how much work you need just for 2 of you.
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: Stoots on April 10, 2023, 10:57:34 am
And they still have to be paid I think people underestimate how much work you need just for 2 of you.

yep i had to get myself 2 weeks behind to cover an employees wage, had to add another 15k a year to the round since i took him on to make sure we have enough. Only just at the point now where i can breathe it was bit of a panic. now if it wasnt for that pesky vat threshold....
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: dazmond on April 10, 2023, 11:04:29 am
I was late all the time because i was building work for an employee, now im up to date ;D

But honestly when i was solo it was a securty thing, financially it makes zero differerence but being a week behind feels a lot more secure than being bang up to date. Having no work due is quite scary and having no work due when employing is stressfull.

I've not had too much work since my ladder days over 13 years ago now.... ;D

I still move my schedule forward occasionally due to holidays.i never try and cram work in before or after though...

If your regularly behind 2 or 3 weeks
continously with no plans to employ  your just making your work harder than it needs to be as there's an extra 2-3 weeks of dirt on the windows and customers start to query where you ve been... ;D
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: dazmond on April 10, 2023, 11:06:35 am
3 bank holiday mondays in May lads! ;)

Even I might work in the morning on the first one due to a busy week that week !😄
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: Perfect Windows on April 10, 2023, 11:58:18 am
I'm not asking about people who are occasionally late. It's the ones who seem to be constantly behind that I don't get.


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Title: Re: Always late
Post by: Slacky on April 10, 2023, 12:01:06 pm
You can earn more if you're late. Im regularly late because I take on extra work which pays plenty more than window cleaning.
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: NWH on April 10, 2023, 12:09:01 pm
I'm not asking about people who are occasionally late. It's the ones who seem to be constantly behind that I don't get.


Vin

Why I’m always behind and always have been they are all good paying jobs I don’t have any that aren’t,I wouldn’t farm it out or sell it for some fool to start cleaning it and lose it.
If it’s run of the mill monthly stuff then yeah bang it out franchise it  out whatever,some work doesn’t fit that model.
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: SB Cleaning on April 10, 2023, 01:35:29 pm
You can earn more if you're late. Im regularly late because I take on extra work which pays plenty more than window cleaning.

I'm the same, i do extras like pressure washing  gutter clearing,  etc which gets me behind.
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: DJW on April 10, 2023, 03:39:58 pm
I’m always late because I never catch up.
I have enough work to work every day I reckon.
In a six week stretch it’s easy to lose a week due to bad weather and bank holidays or whatever
This week i’ve lost today (bank holiday) probably lose tomorrow and maybe the next day due to high winds and rain. Lost Good Friday last week, had a weeks holiday before that.
I’m miles behind!  ;D

In the last fifteen years or more I’ve never opened Cleaner Planner and had no work for the day.
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: G Griffin on April 10, 2023, 03:47:08 pm
I'm never late. I look at it as being early for the next clean.
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: Simon Trapani on April 10, 2023, 07:14:24 pm
You need loads more work for a full time employee,loads more.
Just double. Worked for me.
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: dazmond on April 11, 2023, 07:37:17 am
I was late all the time because i was building work for an employee, now im up to date ;D

But honestly when i was solo it was a securty thing, financially it makes zero differerence but being a week behind feels a lot more secure than being bang up to date. Having no work due is quite scary and having no work due when employing is stressfull.

Having no work due is bliss to me.it happens every week!😄

I'm down to 323 jobs now(mixture of 4/8weekly with a few longer frequency jobs here and there)....

I'm aiming for 830am on the glass today which is early for me as there's a storm coming in this afternoon!🙄
Title: Re: Always late
Post by: Clever Forum Name on April 11, 2023, 07:49:02 pm
On plenty of threads, people say they are always late. Why bother?

Genuine question, why do you do it?  You don't gain a single penny by having an overfull round. Wouldn't you be better putting your prices up or dropping the people you don't like doing?

Vin

As long as we keep the customers happy it works really well for us. When a new employee or franchisee comes along we already have a good starting off point.