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Title: Gutter vacs
Post by: Stoots on March 28, 2023, 09:58:26 pm
Looking for advise on what size gutter vac to purchase

I had a gutter sucker jnr which the motor has blown on. Its probably about 1600w

Just considering whether to fix it or buy a bigger say 3000w plus vac.

Main consideration is if I get a smaller vac I should be able to run it off a cheap generator. A bigger one would likely need a much bigger and expensive generator.

I don't really want to be relying on customers being in to use an extension lead.

Are small vacs ok or will I need the extra power ? Only use the little vac a couple of times and it did OK but had no serious blockage so no idea how it would cope with rammed gutters
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 29, 2023, 11:56:36 am
The 3000w from GVS is perfect for domestic....don't bother with those little vacs they haven't got the capacity,  you'll be forever emptying it and it will do your head in.
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: the king on March 29, 2023, 02:35:45 pm
the grippa vac is ace small compact and there bullet proof mine have really good suction
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 29, 2023, 05:18:23 pm
the grippa vac is ace small compact and there bullet proof mine have really good suction
Expensive
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Stoots on March 29, 2023, 05:53:59 pm
cheers

Is there really much difference between say a 3000w commercial vac such as gvs or gutter sucker etc, and say a 3000w wet and dry vac that you can buy for less than 400 quid on ebay ?

they all look like generic vacs with fancy stickers on them or am i wrong ?
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: zesty on March 29, 2023, 05:58:00 pm
cheers

Is there really much difference between say a 3000w commercial vac such as gvs or gutter sucker etc, and say a 3000w wet and dry vac that you can buy for less than 400 quid on ebay ?

they all look like generic vacs with fancy stickers on them or am i wrong ?

Only difference will be the inlet!

You’d just have to buy the poles etc

Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Smudger on March 29, 2023, 07:31:41 pm
cheers

Is there really much difference between say a 3000w commercial vac such as gvs or gutter sucker etc, and say a 3000w wet and dry vac that you can buy for less than 400 quid on ebay ?

they all look like generic vacs with fancy stickers on them or am i wrong ?

No difference - you can buy a side entry inlet and for it in 20 mins and I but carbon poles from the supplier - you get 5 two meter full carbon fibre poles for about £320

Darran
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Smudger on March 29, 2023, 07:33:59 pm
The only one that may or may not be better is the interceptor - that comes with its own engine  :o

I'm sure splash will be along shortly as he has one of these...
Darran
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Splash & dash on March 29, 2023, 07:52:01 pm
The only one that may or may not be better is the interceptor - that comes with its own engine  :o

I'm sure splash will be along shortly as he has one of these...
Darran


We have two  vacs for different types of job , we have a mains electric gripper tank vac  for  shops and ware access is difficult , it’s a very good powerful vac , but the main one is the interceptor but it’s a pricey piece of kit at around 5,5k but if you have the work for it it’s brilliant own engine far easier than having a vac and generator and is surprisingly easy to manoeuvre  Evan on your own , but it’s really meant for larger jobs not houses although we  use it most of the time on everything.
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 29, 2023, 08:05:40 pm
The only one that may or may not be better is the interceptor - that comes with its own engine  :o

I'm sure splash will be along shortly as he has one of these...
Darran


We have two  vacs for different types of job , we have a mains electric gripper tank vac  for  shops and ware access is difficult , it’s a very good powerful vac , but the main one is the interceptor but it’s a pricey piece of kit at around 5,5k but if you have the work for it it’s brilliant own engine far easier than having a vac and generator and is surprisingly easy to manoeuvre  Evan on your own , but it’s really meant for larger jobs not houses although we  use it most of the time on everything.
5.5k  :o you need checking out from the neck up  ;D
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Splash & dash on March 29, 2023, 08:22:09 pm
The only one that may or may not be better is the interceptor - that comes with its own engine  :o

I'm sure splash will be along shortly as he has one of these...
Darran


We have two  vacs for different types of job , we have a mains electric gripper tank vac  for  shops and ware access is difficult , it’s a very good powerful vac , but the main one is the interceptor but it’s a pricey piece of kit at around 5,5k but if you have the work for it it’s brilliant own engine far easier than having a vac and generator and is surprisingly easy to manoeuvre  Evan on your own , but it’s really meant for larger jobs not houses although we  use it most of the time on everything.
5.5k  :o you need checking out from the neck up  ;D


Not when you do over 60k per year just on gutters 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 29, 2023, 08:38:14 pm
The only one that may or may not be better is the interceptor - that comes with its own engine  :o

I'm sure splash will be along shortly as he has one of these...
Darran


We have two  vacs for different types of job , we have a mains electric gripper tank vac  for  shops and ware access is difficult , it’s a very good powerful vac , but the main one is the interceptor but it’s a pricey piece of kit at around 5,5k but if you have the work for it it’s brilliant own engine far easier than having a vac and generator and is surprisingly easy to manoeuvre  Evan on your own , but it’s really meant for larger jobs not houses although we  use it most of the time on everything.
5.5k  :o you need checking out from the neck up  ;D


Not when you do over 60k per year just on gutters 😂😂😂
If i was , i still wouldn't be paying that for a vacuum, madness ;D
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: NWH on March 29, 2023, 09:21:39 pm
The only one that may or may not be better is the interceptor - that comes with its own engine  :o

I'm sure splash will be along shortly as he has one of these...
Darran


We have two  vacs for different types of job , we have a mains electric gripper tank vac  for  shops and ware access is difficult , it’s a very good powerful vac , but the main one is the interceptor but it’s a pricey piece of kit at around 5,5k but if you have the work for it it’s brilliant own engine far easier than having a vac and generator and is surprisingly easy to manoeuvre  Evan on your own , but it’s really meant for larger jobs not houses although we  use it most of the time on everything.
5.5k  :o you need checking out from the neck up  ;D

Lol are they heavy and slow too 5.5k 🤣🤣🍩🍩
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: the king on March 30, 2023, 06:50:30 am
[quote  author =the king link=topic=223289.msg2126248#msg2126248 date=1680096945]
the grippa vac is ace small compact and there bullet proof mine have really good suction
Expensive
[/quote] I got mine from streamline same vac £700 had it many years there bulletproof I’ve abused it and it just keeps on going  ;D I wouldn’t say expensive as it soon pays for itself
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 30, 2023, 09:30:23 am
[quote  author =the king link=topic=223289.msg2126248#msg2126248 date=1680096945]
the grippa vac is ace small compact and there bullet proof mine have really good suction
Expensive
I
[/quote]I have owned one mate, they are ok but the GVS machine seems more powerful and the attachments for grippa vacs and skyvacs are naff imo.
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: NWH on March 30, 2023, 09:47:28 am
I’ve never needed a generator for mine 5.5k 😂 really one born every minute.
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 30, 2023, 11:10:16 am
I’ve never needed a generator for mine 5.5k 😂 really one born every minute.
Nor me  , 12 years and never had a problem hooking up to customers electric  ;D
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: NWH on March 30, 2023, 12:15:29 pm
People have always said what generator to you have etc and like you say it’s not needed for domestics.
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Splash & dash on March 30, 2023, 01:37:54 pm
I’ve never needed a generator for mine 5.5k 😂 really one born every minute.


As per usual Nigel you are talking out of your arse 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: NWH on March 30, 2023, 01:40:51 pm
I have never used a generator honestly it sucks like a porn star ⭐️ anyway more than enough.
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Splash & dash on March 30, 2023, 05:13:59 pm
I have never used a generator honestly it sucks like a porn star ⭐️ anyway more than enough.


It’s nothing to do with using a generator, you cannot use mains electricity on site , and when doing hundreds of meters on commercial buildings there isn’t always a convenient power supply and when working outside of normal hours it’s nice to be self  sufficient, the interceptor doesn’t need any any power supply and no cables to potentially trip over either it’s a no brainier and was paid for with two jobs we earn more gutter vaccing than most window cleaners earn per year and it’s just an add on for us .
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: NWH on March 30, 2023, 05:34:54 pm
1100 notes extra for a key start over a pull lol
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Splash & dash on March 30, 2023, 06:01:42 pm
1100 notes extra for a key start over a pull lol


What are you on about ?..
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 30, 2023, 06:06:35 pm
1100 notes extra for a key start over a pull lol


What are you on about ?..
1100 extra for a key start on the interceptor  ???
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Splash & dash on March 30, 2023, 06:08:34 pm
1100 notes extra for a key start over a pull lol


What are you on about ?..
1100 extra for a key start on the interceptor  ???



You don’t need  key  start  it’s easy with the pull cord ,
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: NWH on March 30, 2023, 06:11:15 pm
I’ll be honest with you Splash it looks a good bit of kit if I took more on I’d buy one 👍
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Splash & dash on March 30, 2023, 06:15:44 pm
I’ll be honest with you Splash it looks a good bit of kit if I took more on I’d buy one 👍


It’s actually come down in price I paid 5.5 k it’s now 5.2 K , I have tried most vacs out there and it’s head and shoulders better than the rest .
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: NWH on March 30, 2023, 06:45:41 pm
It’s the no need for cables that would sell it to me and the fact it’s a Honda.
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: the king on March 30, 2023, 08:14:26 pm
[quote  author =the king link=topic=223289.msg2126248#msg2126248 date=1680096945]
the grippa vac is ace small compact and there bullet proof mine have really good suction
Expensive
I
I have owned one mate, they are ok but the GVS machine seems more powerful and the attachments for grippa vacs and skyvacs are naff imo.
[/quote] they do look very nice i must say  if my vac dies ill order one  one niggle i have with mine is the wheels are naff over anything but flat ground its a nightmare on stone chip drives
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: the king on March 30, 2023, 08:17:50 pm
i looked at getting a genny but allways have power eather outside socket or someones in
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: LBWCS on April 01, 2023, 09:17:50 am
I bought a genny (sky vac  3600w one) last year due to my vac nearly setting a commercial property on fire. They had faulty electrics. Plus like has been mentioned it’s not always easy to find a suitable socket on commercial properties. It’s brilliant and had remote start with is great. Runs 3000w vac all day and doesn’t miss a beat. It’s a nice long term investment. I do a decent amount of vaccing in a year so it’s worth it for my business
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Stoots on April 01, 2023, 01:43:17 pm
I had a generator years ago to do car valeting, but never liked it left running in the van alway feared it would blow up taking the van with it. Dragging a bit generator out of the van could be hassle ?

Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Smudger on April 01, 2023, 07:54:49 pm
Kenny always in the van other than big sites where we put it on a purpose made trolley

10 years now and never an issue - same as 2 P/W in each van - no fires yet.  besides you have a great big tank of water in the back as soon as the plastic melts you have a ready made fire extingisher

Darran
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: SB Cleaning on April 02, 2023, 08:27:37 am
I will be sticking to my trusty 50 m extension lead :D
Takes up no room in the van, very lightweight,  and no cost in fuel,servicing etc...
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: High-Tower on April 02, 2023, 08:42:37 am
besides you have a great big tank of water in the back as soon as the plastic melts you have a ready made fire extingisher

Darran

I wouldn’t rely on that, if it’s full of water the van will be well alight before the plastic melts. You can put a bottle of water in a fire and the water will boil before the plastic melts.
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: SB Cleaning on April 02, 2023, 10:14:35 am
besides you have a great big tank of water in the back as soon as the plastic melts you have a ready made fire extingisher

Darran

I wouldn’t rely on that, if it’s full of water the van will be well alight before the plastic melts. You can put a bottle of water in a fire and the water will boil before the plastic melts.
Agreed , a pretty ridiculous thing to post really.
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Smudger on April 02, 2023, 12:38:54 pm
so no one can the funny side of a post - oh well...

the problem with a 50 meter extension reel is a lot of people don't unwind them fully so they get hot and also burst into flames but hey ho - we can all point these things out

Darran
Title: Re: Gutter vacs
Post by: Bungle on April 02, 2023, 07:35:52 pm
I feel for Kenny personally. Always stuck in the van 😥