Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Spruce on March 04, 2023, 07:32:33 pm
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Sadly, a vehicle accident has taken the life of a local window cleaner.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/heartfelt-tributes-paid-to-much-loved-thornaby-dad-who-died-in-van-crash/ar-AA18bWqv
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/van-driver-dies-collision-closed-26376655
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/ill-always-remember-him-flowers-26384682
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/heartfelt-tributes-paid-much-loved-26387398
I didn't know him but he worked for Teesside Window Cleaning and was in one of their vans at the time.
To his friends and family, please accept my condolences. RIP
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And now haz who owns the business has put it up for sale I see
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Stoots where is it showing that he is selling up
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Stoots where is it showing that he is selling up
one of the facebook window cleaning pages, hes put his rounds up for sale, assuming its due to the incident above.
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Stoots where is it showing that he is selling up
one of the facebook window cleaning pages, hes put his rounds up for sale, assuming its due to the incident above.
Does that include the shop ?..
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maybe he’s facing legal action of some kind as a result of this terrible situation.
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Sadly, a vehicle accident has taken the life of a local window cleaner.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/heartfelt-tributes-paid-to-much-loved-thornaby-dad-who-died-in-van-crash/ar-AA18bWqv
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/van-driver-dies-collision-closed-26376655
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/ill-always-remember-him-flowers-26384682
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/heartfelt-tributes-paid-much-loved-26387398
I didn't know him but he worked for Teesside Window Cleaning and was in one of their vans at the time.
To his friends and family, please accept my condolences. RIP
must of be some hit or the tank moved after our head on at 80mph in our transit we got out alive just guess it luck of the draw when something like this happens
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Sadly, a vehicle accident has taken the life of a local window cleaner.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/heartfelt-tributes-paid-to-much-loved-thornaby-dad-who-died-in-van-crash/ar-AA18bWqv
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/van-driver-dies-collision-closed-26376655
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/ill-always-remember-him-flowers-26384682
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/heartfelt-tributes-paid-much-loved-26387398
I didn't know him but he worked for Teesside Window Cleaning and was in one of their vans at the time.
To his friends and family, please accept my condolences. RIP
must of be some hit or the tank moved after our head on at 80mph in our transit we got out alive just guess it luck of the draw when something like this happens
Who in their right mind drives a window cleaning van at 80mph ?
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I think thats in the same vein as ... im earning 1K a day working from 9.30 to 2.30 with 2 hour lunch
i'm pretty sure if you had hit anything at 80 MPH head on there would be nothing left of a transit cab...
Darran
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The engine would be ‘in’ your legs.
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Sadly, a vehicle accident has taken the life of a local window cleaner.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/heartfelt-tributes-paid-to-much-loved-thornaby-dad-who-died-in-van-crash/ar-AA18bWqv
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/van-driver-dies-collision-closed-26376655
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/ill-always-remember-him-flowers-26384682
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/heartfelt-tributes-paid-much-loved-26387398
I didn't know him but he worked for Teesside Window Cleaning and was in one of their vans at the time.
To his friends and family, please accept my condolences. RIP
must of be some hit or the tank moved after our head on at 80mph in our transit we got out alive just guess it luck of the draw when something like this happens
Nobody seems to know the details of the accident. The road was closed just at the city limits. That section of road has a 30mph speed limit. Where they blocked the road is where the speed limit changes to a 60mph. It appears to have been major, such as a head on collision, as the other car's occupants were also badly injured.
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Sadly, a vehicle accident has taken the life of a local window cleaner.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/heartfelt-tributes-paid-to-much-loved-thornaby-dad-who-died-in-van-crash/ar-AA18bWqv
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/van-driver-dies-collision-closed-26376655
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/ill-always-remember-him-flowers-26384682
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/heartfelt-tributes-paid-much-loved-26387398
I didn't know him but he worked for Teesside Window Cleaning and was in one of their vans at the time.
To his friends and family, please accept my condolences. RIP
must of be some hit or the tank moved after our head on at 80mph in our transit we got out alive just guess it luck of the draw when something like this happens
Who in their right mind drives a window cleaning van at 80mph ?
so why wold you automatically think it was the window cleaner doing 80mph and not the other person sounds to me like you get blamed for a lot of stuff on your round
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The engine would be ‘in’ your legs.
wrong as with all vans and cars the engine is designed to fold under the van or car on heavy front ends again luck of draw on where it hits we were off center so it was chassis leg to leg the enegine of the transit broke in two and both parts hit the floor
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I think thats in the same vein as ... im earning 1K a day working from 9.30 to 2.30 with 2 hour lunch
i'm pretty sure if you had hit anything at 80 MPH head on there would be nothing left of a transit cab...
Darran
i didnt relise you were a expert in crash testing feel free to post up where you trained ect ect as you might be more qualified then our expert were using in court which he just charged us 8k for a report i would be happy to get my insurance to call you as a second witness
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The engine would be ‘in’ your legs.
wrong as with all vans and cars the engine is designed to fold under the van or car on heavy front ends
But like all things in the real world the engine does end up around the front occupants legs I have been in the fire service for 35 years and been out to numerous accidents ware this has happened some fatal others not , better not post the images on here as they are a bit graphic but trust me it happens regularly
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The engine would be ‘in’ your legs.
wrong as with all vans and cars the engine is designed to fold under the van or car on heavy front ends
But like all things in the real world the engine does end up around the front occupants legs I have been in the fire service for 35 years and been out to numerous accidents ware this has happened some fatal others not , better not post the images on here as they are a bit graphic but trust me it happens regularly
Why do you have graphic images of accidents available to post anywhere?
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The engine would be ‘in’ your legs.
wrong as with all vans and cars the engine is designed to fold under the van or car on heavy front ends
But like all things in the real world the engine does end up around the front occupants legs I have been in the fire service for 35 years and been out to numerous accidents ware this has happened some fatal others not , better not post the images on here as they are a bit graphic but trust me it happens regularly
we were lucky and it did hit the road like it was surpost to when it snapped the engine mounts
it was the dash and the sheer off stearing wheel that did the damage oh and a plastic coffee mug from costa that not only shattered the hip but took out 6 rips and cause internal bleeding while still in the coffee cup holder of the dash came in that far on a mk7
never seen 3 fire engine teams work so well , not only did they have to cut him out the van was over the hedge with a 15 foot drop which they had to make sure it wasn't going to fall into they had to save people from the other 2 cars he ran into
heroes that drive big red trucks i call them let alone the ambulance crews
on the up side we laff about it and say there must be easier ways to get a free ride in a helicopter then going though this
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The engine would be ‘in’ your legs.
wrong as with all vans and cars the engine is designed to fold under the van or car on heavy front ends
But like all things in the real world the engine does end up around the front occupants legs I have been in the fire service for 35 years and been out to numerous accidents ware this has happened some fatal others not , better not post the images on here as they are a bit graphic but trust me it happens regularly
Why do you have graphic images of accidents available to post anywhere?
For evidence and accident investigations but as I said I cannot post them on a public forum
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You said you had better not post them and it was because they are a bit graphic.
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You said you had better not post them and it was because they are a bit graphic.
Exactly better not post them , usually I would to prove a point and post it to show what happens but GDPR etc I cannot
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The engine would be ‘in’ your legs.
wrong as with all vans and cars the engine is designed to fold under the van or car on heavy front ends again luck of draw on where it hits we were off center so it was chassis leg to leg the enegine of the transit broke in two and both parts hit the floor
That’s one of them new Origami engines.
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From the look of a photo of where the van the windie was driving ended up, it would appear to me that the driver of the Citroen pulled out of a side road into the path of his van. It was in the 60mph speed zone, although the windie should only have been travelling at 50mph. His van veered off the road to his left, which indicates to me that he got hit on the right side of his van.
Again, this is very sad, but I hope they release a few more details of the accident, so we can learn from what happened.
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You said you had better not post them and it was because they are a bit graphic.
Exactly better not post them , usually I would to prove a point and post it to show what happens but GDPR etc I cannot
Usually you would post them but this time you wont because of GDPR?
Does GDPR not count when you “usually” post them , when you’re trying to “prove a point”?
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You said you had better not post them and it was because they are a bit graphic.
Exactly better not post them , usually I would to prove a point and post it to show what happens but GDPR etc I cannot
Usually you would post them but this time you wont because of GDPR?
Does GDPR not count when you “usually” post them , when you’re trying to “prove a point”?
I would generally post pictures to prove a point but in this case cannot is what I meant . You do like being pedantic 😂😂😂
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The engine would be ‘in’ your legs.
wrong as with all vans and cars the engine is designed to fold under the van or car on heavy front ends again luck of draw on where it hits we were off center so it was chassis leg to leg the enegine of the transit broke in two and both parts hit the floor
That’s one of them new Origami engines.
;D ;D
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I think thats in the same vein as ... im earning 1K a day working from 9.30 to 2.30 with 2 hour lunch
i'm pretty sure if you had hit anything at 80 MPH head on there would be nothing left of a transit cab...
Darran
i didnt relise you were a expert in crash testing feel free to post up where you trained ect ect as you might be more qualified then our expert were using in court which he just charged us 8k for a report i would be happy to get my insurance to call you as a second witness
oh, how very defensive of you! - but ive seen a few vans after crashes of various types - Securior parcels used to send out a booklet every six months with dozens of the worst accidents the drivers had from "pony express" escort vans right uptown the 18 wheelers - some of those were only at 45 to 55 MPH and there was no cab left - what I said was an observation
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so why wold you automatically think it was the window cleaner doing 80mph and not the other person sounds to me like you get blamed for a lot of stuff on your round
Well we are thinking that because of your poorly written post - where you said and I quote - after our head on at 80mph in our transit
so its easy to assume you were doing the 80 MPH
Darran
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The accident happened on Sandy Lane. Sandy Lane is a 'back road.'
Wynyard Road leads into Sandy Lane at a sharp bend. This is at most a 40mph bend in my van. After the bend is a short straight of road (around a quarter of a mile) and then the road bends toward the left before it crosses the A19. There is no way that van could reach 80mph in that short straight of road IMHO.
I suspect that Citroen pulled out from that side road.
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The accident happened on Sandy Lane. Sandy Lane is a 'back road.'
Wynyard Road leads into Sandy Lane at a sharp bend. This is at most a 40mph bend in my van. After the bend is a short straight of road (around a quarter of a mile) and then the road bends toward the left before it crosses the A19. There is no way that van could reach 80mph in that short straight of road IMHO.
I suspect that Citroen pulled out from that side road.
They’re talking about a separate incident r.e 80mph spruce, Susan was saying she and her husband had a crash at 80mph
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I would generally post pictures to prove a point but in this case cannot is what I meant . You do like being pedantic 😂😂😂
So normally you would post something but this time you can’t? Well thanks for letting us know, I guess ???
Pedantic? Maybe… but you seem to have twisted yourself in knots by posting something and then back pedalling so fast you keep tripping over.
I’ve got a fireman mate who likes to give it large, I’m going to start calling you NWH- mond ;D
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I would generally post pictures to prove a point but in this case cannot is what I meant . You do like being pedantic 😂😂😂
So normally you would post something but this time you can’t? Well thanks for letting us know, I guess ???
Pedantic? Maybe… but you seem to have twisted yourself in knots by posting something and then back pedalling so fast you keep tripping over.
I’ve got a fireman mate who likes to give it large, I’m going to start calling you NWH- mond ;D
No back peddling at all just a case of me not explaining things enough or you misunderstand ing what I have put ,
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The accident happened on Sandy Lane. Sandy Lane is a 'back road.'
Wynyard Road leads into Sandy Lane at a sharp bend. This is at most a 40mph bend in my van. After the bend is a short straight of road (around a quarter of a mile) and then the road bends toward the left before it crosses the A19. There is no way that van could reach 80mph in that short straight of road IMHO.
I suspect that Citroen pulled out from that side road.
They’re talking about a separate incident r.e 80mph spruce, Susan was saying she and her husband had a crash at 80mph
You are right, zesty. Nobody has suggested in any subsequent posts that the reason for the accident was because he was travelling at 80mph. Maybe speed could have been a factor, maybe not. Thankfully, Susan and her husband survived their accident. Andrew didn't.
I was just using Susan's 80mph accident speed as a baseline for thought, as I doubt that a Transit could reach that speed on that length of road, if at all. And of course, the speed limit for our vans would be 50mph on that stretch of road.
The other comment Susan made regarding the tank moving could well be a more likely cause of death rather than high speed. Unfortunately, no details have been released, so it's all conjecture atm.
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The engine would be ‘in’ your legs.
wrong as with all vans and cars the engine is designed to fold under the van or car on heavy front ends again luck of draw on where it hits we were off center so it was chassis leg to leg the enegine of the transit broke in two and both parts hit the floor
No.
I’ve attended multiple RTCs.
You were probably very lucky.
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I would generally post pictures to prove a point but in this case cannot is what I meant . You do like being pedantic 😂😂😂
So normally you would post something but this time you can’t? Well thanks for letting us know, I guess ???
Pedantic? Maybe… but you seem to have twisted yourself in knots by posting something and then back pedalling so fast you keep tripping over.
I’ve got a fireman mate who likes to give it large, I’m going to start calling you NWH- mond ;D
NWH-mond😂😂😂😂😂
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I would generally post pictures to prove a point but in this case cannot is what I meant . You do like being pedantic 😂😂😂
So normally you would post something but this time you can’t? Well thanks for letting us know, I guess ???
Pedantic? Maybe… but you seem to have twisted yourself in knots by posting something and then back pedalling so fast you keep tripping over.
I’ve got a fireman mate who likes to give it large, I’m going to start calling you NWH- mond ;D
Behave Don Kee , you dont have any mates! ;D
A lot of incidents are filmed now with body worn cameras and vehicle cameras and are sometimes used for learning points and sometimes just to confirm you did everything you could . I was recently at a double fatal head on crash caused by a medical episode , two adults dead ( bot deaths were after us doing 45-50 mins of cpr on both casualties with several shocks ) and a 14 year old child critical. One of the cars was upside down and on fire with the occupant still inside. Watching the video back afterwards was very helpful to me , because it set my mind at rest that we did everything we possibly could , its very easy for self doubt to creep in and destroy you mentally. People(especially firefighter) should not be sharing images with anybody except under very specific circumstances and with the families permission , anything else is abhorrent and a sackable offence.
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I’m a retained windowcleaner and I never put my pictures up.
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Behave Don Kee , you dont have any mates! ;D
True story ;D
Although I actually do have a fireman mate and the amount of times he’s encountered and “helped out” at incidents when he’s off shift, we actually wonder if he’s causing the accidents just so he can have a story to tell ;D ;D
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Behave Don Kee , you dont have any mates! ;D
True story ;D
Although I actually do have a fireman mate and the amount of times he’s encountered and “helped out” at incidents when he’s off shift, we actually wonder if he’s causing the accidents just so he can have a story to tell ;D ;D
There are approximately 100 firefighter arsonists convicted in North America every year. You might be onto something with your friend.
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Behave Don Kee , you dont have any mates! ;D
True story ;D
Although I actually do have a fireman mate and the amount of times he’s encountered and “helped out” at incidents when he’s off shift, we actually wonder if he’s causing the accidents just so he can have a story to tell ;D ;D
I have stopped off duty i think maybe 5 times in 15 years...........so maybe your mate is dodgy or very unlucky! ;D