Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: NWH on February 21, 2023, 03:09:58 pm
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I’ve just had a look and nearly passed out at the prices X 2 Mono brushes with rinse bars for the above price,c’mon now you Xline boys that’s got to be seriously taking the P**s.
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Perfectly reasonable
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I’ve just had a look and nearly passed out at the prices X 2 Mono brushes with rinse bars for the above price,c’mon now you Xline boys that’s got to be seriously taking the P**s.
I thought you liked p1ssing money down the drain Nigel :D
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I am wiping my A*se on pound notes bungle yes I agree m8 I just thought that was a bit much for people like you that try and save a few quid 🤣.
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142.80 for 2 brushes lol they’ve just designed a new RO apparently,it only extracts urine though.
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I’ve just had a look and nearly passed out at the prices X 2 Mono brushes with rinse bars for the above price,c’mon now you Xline boys that’s got to be seriously taking the P**s.
That’s shocking……..how many did you buy?😜
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I went on had a look and tbh out of principle I’m not sure I’ll get any that’s ridiculous i thought Richie Blue and Parry Tate had taken over for a minute lol.
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I bought a new 45degree carbon gooseneck,2 xtreme brushes and a few connectors recently and it came to £120 with VAT and delivery...
But the xtremes will be knackered after 2 months where an xline brush would last at least 6 months! ;D
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For 2 of those Xlines that price is a rip off.
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X line brushes are like bricks though I destroyed one in a morning with hot water as well still got two in the garage somewhere one is the rectangular one the other a sill brush they remind me of the old Vikan brushes
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I know I keep thinking that every time I put it on the end of the pole with hot water it gave in like a fat bully,maybe I’ll give em a miss.
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The old orange 🍊 one I had not the white Mono.
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Their standard rectangular dupont brush is around £45, not loads more than Gardiner equivalent.
You must be looking at their 35cm dupont brush . I have used some xline brushes in the past and thought they were reasonable value. Just use Gardiners at present.
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Don’t think anyone buys them anymore due to the weight ;D
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Gardiners Sill brushes last years
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I’ve just had a look and nearly passed out at the prices X 2 Mono brushes with rinse bars for the above price,c’mon now you Xline boys that’s got to be seriously taking the P**s.
Didn't you part with 300 notes for a reach it brush Nigel? ::)roll
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Lol no I did not I got a Gunslinger another waste of money a bucket on a belt that leaks 🤣🤣 goodness me,still nothing from Grippa not a word.
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This grippa tank place doesn’t sound good did consider getting diesel heater from them but I’m guna scratch them off I think go with streamline one
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What’s Grippa got to do with it?
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A rinse bar is something that produces a band of water above the top bristles on a brush. Jets lined up together in the middle of a brush are simply jets grouped together, it's not a true rinse bar is it?
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Err anyway it’s ridiculously priced yeah.
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A rinse bar is something that produces a band of water above the top bristles on a brush. Jets lined up together in the middle of a brush are simply jets grouped together, it's not a true rinse bar is it?
They are $hit I used one for a hour before ringing up and complaining, the jets were all over the shop and the bar itself catches on sills,frames etc
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A rinse bar is something that produces a band of water above the top bristles on a brush. Jets lined up together in the middle of a brush are simply jets grouped together, it's not a true rinse bar is it?
They are $hit I used one for a hour before ringing up and complaining, the jets were all over the shop and the bar itself catches on sills,frames etc
Jets going off in different directions is just debris getting through your filter presuming you have one, very easily remedied, just remove the rinse bar and rinse it out, and more importantly sort your filter out. As for catching on sills and frames, I'm guessing this must be a long time ago, I use a sill brush and have never caught it on anything, I conscienously tried to this morning and can't. I vaguely remember reading the early versions weren't recessed which may have caused problems, today's sill brushes are recessed and certainly won't.
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What’s Grippa got to do with it?
Second hand emotion?
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Lol no I did not I got a Gunslinger another waste of money a bucket on a belt that leaks 🤣🤣 goodness me,still nothing from Grippa not a word.
I’ll ask again, what’s Grippa got to do with it?
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They’ve got nothing to do with it I just mentioned it why I hope you’re not trying to stick up for them.
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I've just purchased a Gardiners 35cm Xtreme sill brush with the Dupont bristles and a swivel. That was about £80 and I'm not even sure I like it! ???
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I used standard Gardiner brushes today the Mono ones over a few years old but new condition as I’ve not used them,forgotten how good they clean I think they are just super lite ones stand up lovely to the hot water.
My bloke needs something that pushes on the glass he’s been getting to lazy with Extreme brushes.
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A rinse bar is something that produces a band of water above the top bristles on a brush. Jets lined up together in the middle of a brush are simply jets grouped together, it's not a true rinse bar is it?
It is the same principle if it’s above or in the middle of the brush and Evan look very similar both are useless in my opinion
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I've just purchased a Gardiners 35cm Xtreme sill brush with the Dupont bristles and a swivel. That was about £80 and I'm not even sure I like it! ???
The 26cm extreme sill brush is the worse brush ive ever used in my 19yrs shining, by some margin too. Its only saving grace is its weight but when you consider the Supreme is only 20g heavier yet vastly superior then i cant even defend it on weight.
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A rinse bar is something that produces a band of water above the top bristles on a brush. Jets lined up together in the middle of a brush are simply jets grouped together, it's not a true rinse bar is it?
They are $hit I used one for a hour before ringing up and complaining, the jets were all over the shop and the bar itself catches on sills,frames etc
Jets going off in different directions is just debris getting through your filter presuming you have one, very easily remedied, just remove the rinse bar and rinse it out, and more importantly sort your filter out. As for catching on sills and frames, I'm guessing this must be a long time ago, I use a sill brush and have never caught it on anything, I conscienously tried to this morning and can't. I vaguely remember reading the early versions weren't recessed which may have caused problems, today's sill brushes are recessed and certainly won't.
It was when they first released them yes the bar definitely wasn't recessed into the stock , it definitely wasn't debris in the jets they were all 10 to 2.
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I've just purchased a Gardiners 35cm Xtreme sill brush with the Dupont bristles and a swivel. That was about £80 and I'm not even sure I like it! ???
The 26cm extreme sill brush is the worse brush ive ever used in my 19yrs shining, by some margin too. Its only saving grace is its weight but when you consider the Supreme is only 20g heavier yet vastly superior then i cant even defend it on weight.
Which one is that the ones with the orange strip of bristles is good they just don’t last long,my blokes been killing Extremes.
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I've just purchased a Gardiners 35cm Xtreme sill brush with the Dupont bristles and a swivel. That was about £80 and I'm not even sure I like it! ???
The 26cm extreme sill brush is the worse brush ive ever used in my 19yrs shining, by some margin too. Its only saving grace is its weight but when you consider the Supreme is only 20g heavier yet vastly superior then i cant even defend it on weight.
Supreme might be only 20g heavier but it gains weight when wet. Personally I don’t like the Supremes and only use the Extreme sill brushes.
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I agree the Extreme brushes feel ridiculously light compared to any other brush but my blokes been killing the ends of them on one side in a short time.
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They’ve got nothing to do with it I just mentioned it why I hope you’re not trying to stick up for them.
I'm not sticking up for Grippa, although they've never done me any wrong, but it seems odd that you mention them when they're nothing to do with the topic of the thread.
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Grippa not heard nothing still m8 no I’ll mention it for the next year if they don’t sort it trust me.
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What?
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What, lol no em do ya.
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Prat. If you can't handle the drink.
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Lol I don’t drink m8 but they’ve nearly driven me to it only a drop of red though eh.
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If you sell a product and you either give it a warranty or say you will rectify any faults you should honour it not just take peoples money and run,you also shouldn’t expect people to travel 3-4 hours to them to put it right that’s what you pay a call out charge for.
Like the majority of things once you’ve paid see you later,if only people realised this is what separates you from the run of the mill dross good customer service it should be a pleasure to fix any problems someone may have.
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If you've got a problem with Grippa, which I can only assume you have, even though your sentences are about as coherent as a pi$$ed grasshopper, start a new thread, don't talk your usual bollocks on what was an easily understandable series of responses from others.
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If you sell a product and you either give it a warranty or say you will rectify any faults you should honour it not just take peoples money and run,you also shouldn’t expect people to travel 3-4 hours to them to put it right that’s what you pay a call out charge for.
Like the majority of things once you’ve paid see you later,if only people realised this is what separates you from the run of the mill dross good customer service it should be a pleasure to fix any problems someone may have.
so they will look at it then but you need to go up to grippa - is that what your saying ?
Darran
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I can almost be certain that would be the case.
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so how much are you prepared to pay for a call out ?
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Lol firstly do you think I should have to pay for one then.
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so how much are you prepared to pay for a call out ?
One assumes it’s a warranty issue ? So shouldn’t cost him anything , I had similar issues and it cost me several thousands of pounds in loss of earnings and staffs wages never did get any compensation
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What you mean I may get a phone call 📞 or email 📧 or compensation which one place you’re bets.
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What you mean I may get a phone call 📞 or email 📧 or compensation which one place you’re bets.
Probably none of the above 😂😂😂😂
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Words fail me Splash ✊✊✊
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Depends on what's in the "Warranty" - technically it works - so far its your word that its slower than it should be - unless you have a tech spec stating a speed then yes if you want the issue resolved then travel to them
I'm not saying its not faulty and it sounds rubbish - but you were there when it was fitted and I assume tested it - your alternative is to issue a small claim to see if you can force a resolution
Darran
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I didn’t say it’s faulty in the first place Darren or at least I think I didn’t without trawling through,it’s so slow to reel out and in anyone wouldn’t thinks it’s faulty m8 even though it might not be.
Fantastic customer service though haven’t heard a single thing for 2 weeks.
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so I am confused then ? - its not faulty ?
Darran
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Nigel had a 7 day grace period according to Grippa'a terms and conditions and his statutory rights, in which he could have returned the reel for a full refund. He chose not to exercise this so now has to prove the reel is faulty.
Like Smudger said, surely he saw how it performed when it was originally fitted by Grippa and any concerns should have been raised and sorted then.
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They were emailed within a couple of days of it being fitters I sent emails after email and videos,what you’ve said is nonsense they’ve not contacted me after me ringing them and
Speaking to Aisha.
What you’re saying is that if I can hide for 7 days without picking the phone as a supplier I’ve got away with any complaints then.
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Post it back lol 😂 what on a DPD tank have you picked one up they just need to comeback and fit the motor 🤣🤣
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They were emailed within a couple of days of it being fitters I sent emails after email and videos,what you’ve said is nonsense they’ve not contacted me after me ringing them and
Speaking to Aisha.
What you’re saying is that if I can hide for 7 days without picking the phone as a supplier I’ve got away with any complaints then.
You are entitled to a full refund within 7 days even if the reel works perfectly, no questions asked. I tried pointing this out to you on your other thread but you did not seem able to grasp what I was saying.
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You can’t do anything if no one gets back to you.
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Of course you can - its about what you want to do tho, isn't it
I don't know what one of these reels cost but I would have either driven up to grippa and handed it back or put it on a pallet and returned it - which ever is easier.
without trying to be rude - it sounds like it works but just does not reel in quick enough - something your posts indicated you already knew ...
again without trying to cause offence it s starting to appear you now want to return the item because you don't like it rather than there being a fault with it - please can you clear this issue up - thx
Darran
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Hi Darren why do you want me to clear this issue up are you part of Grippa it comes across like you are in that last post,as you say it works but it’s motor is as weak as P**s it’s not man enough.
A manual reel is quicker than the Grippa reel but a manual reel is ridiculously slow compared to an HD reel.
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If your emails and vids you sent Grippa are anything like most of the drivel you post on here im not surprised you've not heard anything back :D
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Oh right thanks for that not a door knocker by any chance yourself are you.
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Well, he's got a point. Your posts are mostly incoherent dribble and you claim to be sober. It's not surprising.
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My manual reel has been working lovely. Not a single issue with it. You should get yourself one then you wouldn’t be cranky bloke!
Cast the line …………
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Oh right thanks for that not a door knocker by any chance yourself are you.
Just stating a fact.
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You can’t do anything if no one gets back to you.
Tell them the reel isn’t fit for purpose and that you want a full refund under The Sale of Goods act 1979.
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Thank you KS.
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Well, he's got a point. Your posts are mostly incoherent dribble and you claim to be sober. It's not surprising.
Lol yeah right O m8 right O weekend tomorrow don’t knock on my door at some ungodly hour will you.
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You can’t do anything if no one gets back to you.
Tell them the reel isn’t fit for purpose and that you want a full refund under The Sale of Goods act 1979.
There probably isn't much wrong with it going by his previous posts, it's been said the grippa reels aren't as quick as the HD ones but he still went out and bought it , tested it and drove home now he's playing up :D
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They came out to me converted my van to a 2 man added a pump and controller etc done a great job with that,and yes the reel looks like a medieval torture device weighs an insane amount and reels in about as quick as a tortoise 🐢 on weed.
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You can’t do anything if no one gets back to you.
Tell them the reel isn’t fit for purpose and that you want a full refund under The Sale of Goods act 1979.
There probably isn't much wrong with it going by his previous posts, it's been said the grippa reels aren't as quick as the HD ones but he still went out and bought it , tested it and drove home now he's playing up :D
I read in one of his previous posts that it was difficult to reel out too?
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You can’t do anything if no one gets back to you.
Tell them the reel isn’t fit for purpose and that you want a full refund under The Sale of Goods act 1979.
There probably isn't much wrong with it going by his previous posts, it's been said the grippa reels aren't as quick as the HD ones but he still went out and bought it , tested it and drove home now he's playing up :D
I read in one of his previous posts that it was difficult to reel out too?
When i first fitted my HD reel the first thing i did was reel it all the way out and back in a couple of times, he should of tested it properly.
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Yeah let’s not forget the main thing getting the hose off the reel I’m sure I had Eddie Hall hanging off the end of it today.
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You can’t do anything if no one gets back to you.
Tell them the reel isn’t fit for purpose and that you want a full refund under The Sale of Goods act 1979.
There probably isn't much wrong with it going by his previous posts, it's been said the grippa reels aren't as quick as the HD ones but he still went out and bought it , tested it and drove home now he's playing up :D
I read in one of his previous posts that it was difficult to reel out too?
When i first fitted my HD reel the first thing i did was reel it all the way out and back in a couple of times, he should of tested it properly.
Yeah I can’t begin to tell you how reluctant that part was in the dark,you would have never thought
it would be so slow.
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Why didn't you stick with the power up ones ? You were happy with that why change ;D
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They came out to me converted my van to a 2 man added a pump and controller etc done a great job with that,and yes the reel looks like a medieval torture device weighs an insane amount and reels in about as quick as a tortoise 🐢 on weed.
Out of interest, how were you and the apparent lad you’ve had for a while now, able to work if you’ve only just had the van converted to a two man system?
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You can’t do anything if no one gets back to you.
Tell them the reel isn’t fit for purpose and that you want a full refund under The Sale of Goods act 1979.
There probably isn't much wrong with it going by his previous posts, it's been said the grippa reels aren't as quick as the HD ones but he still went out and bought it , tested it and drove home now he's playing up :D
I read in one of his previous posts that it was difficult to reel out too?
When i first fitted my HD reel the first thing i did was reel it all the way out and back in a couple of times, he should of tested it properly.
Irrespective of whether he tested it properly or not, he’s notified Grippatank that he is having a problem with it. For them not to reply is shocking.
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Someone please call time on this thread or NWH will be whinging about everything under the sun, boring us all to death. Got a problem about your hose-reel, then sort it, only girls whinge on and on and on FFS.
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They came out to me converted my van to a 2 man added a pump and controller etc done a great job with that,and yes the reel looks like a medieval torture device weighs an insane amount and reels in about as quick as a tortoise 🐢 on weed.
Out of interest, how were you and the apparent lad you’ve had for a while now, able to work if you’ve only just had the van converted to a two man
Lol you keep trying to trip me up m8 I sent him out on his own and we also had a backpack setup but mainly he was out on his own,I was going to set another van up but like 99% of people you take on they come across like it’s only window cleaning only to prove their next to useless so he’s out with me again.
Customers of mine didn’t want him on his own DonKee and when you’ve got class work like me you have to bend over and take one
For the team,I’m sure you know what I mean there though yeah 😉.
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Someone please call time on this thread or NWH will be whinging about everything under the sun, boring us all to death. Got a problem about your hose-reel, then sort it, only girls whinge on and on and on FFS.
Why should we call time on it who is this another GrippaTank supporter whinging about me telling the “truth” is it,they monitor forums someone said last week that says it all to me if that’s the case.
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He’s the new h-man - still bleating in the year 2035 about that time grippa ripped him off ::)roll
While I do have sympathy- and no time for grippa - wailing about it on here rather than doing something is not helpful
Fit for purpose is subjective if it’s working ie reels in its doing its job
Im not pro or anti grippa or Nigel here just trying to put a neutral argument on the thread
To me it sounds a lot like buyer’s remorse
Darran
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Ps my 10 year old pure freedom manual reels work just great and as quick as the day I got them ;D
As does my second hand waterworks reel I got 2nd hand - absolute bargain
Darran
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Lol you keep trying to trip me up m8 I sent him out on his own and we also had a backpack setup but mainly he was out on his own,I was going to set another van up but like 99% of people you take on they come across like it’s only window cleaning only to prove their next to useless so he’s out with me again.
Customers of mine didn’t want him on his own DonKee and when you’ve got class work like me you have to bend over and take one
For the team,I’m sure you know what I mean there though yeah 😉.
Nope, not trying to trip you up, just trying to understand.
I’ve only ever had someone in the van with me and sent them out on their own when I had days off, the way you’ve gone about it sound like a right ballache.
So what you’re saying is, you trained him up using a backpack for a few days, then sent him out on his own everyday, whilst you sat at home…
And you can’t workout why this bloke can’t be trusted on his own?
With how cowboyish you’ve gone about it, I’d imagine you or him have never heard of PAYE either.
(Added - this is obvs the wrong thread for this convo so I’ll let it sit)
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Lol wealthy wife happy life DonKee do.
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Ps my 10 year old pure freedom manual reels work just great and as quick as the day I got them ;D
As does my second hand waterworks reel I got 2nd hand - absolute bargain
Darran
I’ve just heard they’ve abandoned the huge stones they lift in the worlds strongest man they’ve been replaced by Grippa reels apparently,can’t see anyone managing 5 of them one after another 🤣🤣
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Did I mention the noise it makes when you pull the hose out cross between a trapped cat 🐈⬛ and police siren 🚨 that’s needs new batteries.
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Well, he's got a point. Your posts are mostly incoherent dribble and you claim to be sober. It's not surprising.
Lol yeah right O m8 right O weekend tomorrow don’t knock on my door at some ungodly hour will you.
And there's the dribble.
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When the door is opened that’s when the drivel starts m8.
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I quite agree I have one of their manual reels sat I n the corner of the unit it’s the worst reel I’ve ever seen
Still a man such as you with the wealthy wife can afford to toss it away and buy something else- stop whining and man up
Darran
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Time to wind this thread up as its become reel boring, just get a Grippa yourself NWH and stop whining.
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Me stop whining did you say I thought you meant the reel stop whining lol when you pull the hose out.
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You can’t do anything if no one gets back to you.
Tell them the reel isn’t fit for purpose and that you want a full refund under The Sale of Goods act 1979.
There probably isn't much wrong with it going by his previous posts, it's been said the grippa reels aren't as quick as the HD ones but he still went out and bought it , tested it and drove home now he's playing up :D
I read in one of his previous posts that it was difficult to reel out too?
Really, you read his posts!
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Have you noticed that whenever Nigel feels caught out with no retort to make he either
1 Says life is sweet because he has a wealthy wife
2 Accuses anyone who disagrees with him of being a JW
Neither of which bear any relevance to anything
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Yes I agree have you heard what some people go on about completely not relevant to anything really,bit like getting to the end of the yellow brick road only to learn the strings are being pulled behind the curtain by a human being isn’t it.
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I've just purchased a Gardiners 35cm Xtreme sill brush with the Dupont bristles and a swivel. That was about £80 and I'm not even sure I like it! ???
The 26cm extreme sill brush is the worse brush ive ever used in my 19yrs shining, by some margin too. Its only saving grace is its weight but when you consider the Supreme is only 20g heavier yet vastly superior then i cant even defend it on weight.
Couldn't agree more! Unfortunately, Gardiners have gone backwards and ruined the Xtreme brushes. I don't know who has been advising them (if anybody) but they've made a complete mess of it- and I don't say that lightly as I'm generally a Gardiner fan and have used their products from their inception. Xtreme brushes from years ago were far superior to today's offerings- in every way! I really hope Gardiners get back on track with their brushes!👍🙂