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Title: Price increase text message
Post by: a900 on January 11, 2023, 01:34:25 pm
Does anyone use a service for price increases that takes a standard message and inserts their price rise from say an excel sheet?

I’m looking to increase them again in April so informing in March.  Last year I manually text most of the customers which was a fair bit of work
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: NWH on January 11, 2023, 01:54:34 pm
You’re a very very brave man.
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Post by: Slacky on January 11, 2023, 01:54:41 pm
I put em up and don't tell them.
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Post by: NWH on January 11, 2023, 01:56:04 pm
If mine go up I do the same I just text what they owe.
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Post by: Splash & dash on January 11, 2023, 02:26:00 pm
We just put a slip through the door when doing a clean saying new price as of next time will be xx
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Post by: SB Cleaning on January 11, 2023, 02:30:08 pm
I put em up and don't tell them.
I have done that with a few customers I hardly ever see before and no one mentioned a thing.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 11, 2023, 06:51:18 pm
I post price increase letters the month before their next clean
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 11, 2023, 07:06:27 pm
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Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 11, 2023, 07:10:18 pm
You’re a very very brave man.

Why?I've not put any prices up since 2020 and inflation has rocketed (in the last year especially).

I'll be putting up over 300 jobs in April
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: NWH on January 11, 2023, 07:40:01 pm
I’d rather do an extra job on the way home Daz there’s enough worries for people going around why give them another one that let’s face it the majority of people can do without,we are a luxury service yes the vast majority of my customers will still want them cleaning but I think a price increase at the moment for me is not needed.
That’s the beauty of this job if at any point you want to earn more or you need to make up for a day off it’s easily overcome.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: SB Cleaning on January 11, 2023, 08:11:29 pm
I put mine up last year and im putting them up again this year.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 11, 2023, 08:47:38 pm
I put mine up last year and im putting them up again this year.


Yes I put up ours last year and am looking at increasing some again this year , many are expecting it had a couple today ask if prices are going up so I said yes in march , they were fine with it . My reasoning is prices go up weekly in Tesco so ours need to go up annually at the moment
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 11, 2023, 10:30:48 pm
I put some up in the summer, about 10% on the basis of rocketing fuel increases.

Some other increases I will go for in April when the pensioners get 10.1% on their state pensions.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Stoots on January 11, 2023, 10:41:36 pm
I'll be putting mine up again , put a lot up last year but everything keeps going up so why shouldn't window cleaning.

There may have never been a better time to put prices up, they are expecting it so don't disappoint them.

Looking forward to my mortgage payments going a couple of hundred quid a month this year so I'm sure they can manage a quid or 2 extra each to cover it.

I text all my price increases with text local via cleaner planner. Can do your entire round in minutes.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Jay Le Huray on January 12, 2023, 07:39:44 am
I always do mine in January, I'm in the process of doing it now, no problems so far
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Post by: deeege on January 12, 2023, 08:43:42 am
Residential always go up around 10% or to the nearest £1 atleast every other year.

Commercial I’ve took my eye off the ball and havnt increased for years but have started to put them up now with no issues so far.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 12, 2023, 08:46:14 am
I’d rather do an extra job on the way home Daz there’s enough worries for people going around why give them another one that let’s face it the majority of people can do without,we are a luxury service yes the vast majority of my customers will still want them cleaning but I think a price increase at the moment for me is not needed.
That’s the beauty of this job if at any point you want to earn more or you need to make up for a day off it’s easily overcome.

The 78 year old guy who I know who still cleans windows charges £4 for bungalows because he s not put his prices up for 30 years...its ridiculous! ::)roll
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 12, 2023, 08:51:00 am
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: deeege on January 12, 2023, 08:52:30 am
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Edited my post Daz, residential every other year was meant to write. Commercial I’ve been waaaaay to slack, some havnt gone up for 8 years (but they are still well priced)
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Stoots on January 12, 2023, 03:46:04 pm
Every 2 years is about right. But at the moment price hikes on everything are ridiculous. Inflation is supposed to be about 10% or so but lots of things have gone up way more than that.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Smudger on January 12, 2023, 06:15:56 pm
Yes every other year - this year will be a substantial rise and a minimum charge implemented

I fully expect to lose a few this time - but rather that than run on bare minimum

Darran
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: NBwcs on January 12, 2023, 06:25:11 pm
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 12, 2023, 08:01:04 pm
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.

Usually a quid or 2,some larger jobs a fiver.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 12, 2023, 10:51:24 pm
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.


3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut .
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Smudger on January 12, 2023, 11:58:26 pm
while its easy to say only a £1 - it really depends on what the work is and what's already being charged - it could easily be said of you your prices must have been far too cheap to allow rises like that and then again this year - BUT - I won't because I have no knowledge of the size/type property you are cleaning.

I have retirement homes - 2 windows at front 2 at the back - I do around a dozen - in reality they don't take much longer than a 4 bed detached (all 12) - couldn't justify £3 each rise

With the inflation rate/fuel/electricity to name but some of the stuff rising in price - window cleaning price rises are a must - but only for what you feel is right

Darran

Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 13, 2023, 08:42:34 am
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.


3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut .

Yes only a quid or two every 3 years or so....of course I'm not taking a huge pay cut! ;D

I've never had as much money as I do now and can easily pay my bills so I must be doing something right! :)
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 13, 2023, 08:45:56 am
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.


3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut .

I would never ever put up prices every year and certainly not by £3 or more.i just couldn't rip off my customers like that because IMO that's what your doing! ;)

I prefer a much fairer pricing structure
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: deeege on January 13, 2023, 09:02:07 am
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.


3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut .

Yes only a quid or two every 3 years or so....of course I'm not taking a huge pay cut! ;D

I've never had as much money as I do now and can easily pay my bills so I must be doing something right! :)

If you only put a £20 job up by £2 in 3 years, you are taking a real terms pay cut on that particular job.

You know this Daz, because you have used and understood an inflation calculator in the past.

Whether you are earning more overall has nothing to do with the above.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Always shining on January 13, 2023, 11:51:09 am
All depends what inflation is doing. At the moment it’s high but it won’t be this high forever. £3 rise every year on a £12 job is 25% rise first year. 2nd year it will be 20% rise etc
So way over the current inflation rate.
When it drops back to 2% will you only increase your prices in line with that?
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: NBwcs on January 13, 2023, 12:00:48 pm
As Smudger says, without knowing the original price to which your adding your £3 to then its impossible to make a sweeping statement either way. £3  a year on a  £40 job, you could probably get away with, £3 on a £30 job you could probably use 10% inflation as a justified excuse this year, two year running might raise eyebrows, £3 on a £20 job two years on the trot and your pushing it, £3 on £10 job two years running and dont be surprised if you lose a lot of work. I've got in laws in Pompey who pay £12 and just had notification it's going upto £15,theyve said nothing but are actively looking for a new shiner, and that's without a price rise last year.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: a900 on January 13, 2023, 02:08:06 pm
As Smudger says, without knowing the original price to which your adding your £3 to then its impossible to make a sweeping statement either way. £3  a year on a  £40 job, you could probably get away with, £3 on a £30 job you could probably use 10% inflation as a justified excuse this year, two year running might raise eyebrows, £3 on a £20 job two years on the trot and your pushing it, £3 on £10 job two years running and dont be surprised if you lose a lot of work. I've got in laws in Pompey who pay £12 and just had notification it's going upto £15,theyve said nothing but are actively looking for a new shiner, and that's without a price rise last year.

If we have price increases with other things in life like a boiler service or garage bill.  We sometimes think it might be more than I could pay elsewhere but the service or product is good. For me I would rather stick with someone providing good service or product.

Those are the sort of customers we want. We’ve had it before where people have asked us to leave it based on the price. Then they’ve got quotes and realised that’s the going rate.

I’m not concerned for loosing customers by putting the prices up 2 years in a row as it’s out of the norm to have this level of inflation and the customers I'm after appreciate that and know it’s not just them that faces it.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: a900 on January 13, 2023, 02:10:18 pm
I'll be putting mine up again , put a lot up last year but everything keeps going up so why shouldn't window cleaning.

There may have never been a better time to put prices up, they are expecting it so don't disappoint them.

Looking forward to my mortgage payments going a couple of hundred quid a month this year so I'm sure they can manage a quid or 2 extra each to cover it.

I text all my price increases with text local via cleaner planner. Can do your entire round in minutes.

To answer the topic question. Speaking to text local I’ve discovered that they offer the service I’m after when you can upload an excel and create a message inserting the data from the excel file.

But I would be very interested if you have any more info on how it works within cleaner planner. Is there a help article on it. Or can you talk us through it?
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Ascjim on January 13, 2023, 02:18:00 pm
Yes it works within CP. You will also get a Text local discount.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 13, 2023, 04:53:39 pm
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 13, 2023, 04:55:11 pm
I could never put prices up every year...that means some jobs are going up every 7th clean.far too often IMO...every 3 years is what i do and some customers still think they only went up the previous year! ::)roll

Same here Daz,every 3 years. and mine are due this year too. Do you put yours up by a percentage or just a small amount on each?  I'll be happy with a quid on each one maybe £2 on some of the bigger ones especially given the present climate. Not a great time to be doing it but its got to be done. Wouldn't want to wait any longer than 3 years.


3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut .

Yes only a quid or two every 3 years or so....of course I'm not taking a huge pay cut! ;D

I've never had as much money as I do now and can easily pay my bills so I must be doing something right! :)

If you only put a £20 job up by £2 in 3 years, you are taking a real terms pay cut on that particular job.

You know this Daz, because you have used and understood an inflation calculator in the past.

Whether you are earning more overall has nothing to do with the above.

I must be taking a pay cut then although it just never feels like it
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 13, 2023, 05:47:46 pm
while its easy to say only a £1 - it really depends on what the work is and what's already being charged - it could easily be said of you your prices must have been far too cheap to allow rises like that and then again this year - BUT - I won't because I have no knowledge of the size/type property you are cleaning.

I have retirement homes - 2 windows at front 2 at the back - I do around a dozen - in reality they don't take much longer than a 4 bed detached (all 12) - couldn't justify £3 each rise

With the inflation rate/fuel/electricity to name but some of the stuff rising in price - window cleaning price rises are a must - but only for what you feel is right

Darran

I don’t want to be quoting prices on hear as it will be  taken the wrong way but all our work is very well priced and our lowest hourly rate  is considerably higher that a certain person on hear 😂😂😂😂 all our commercial work  pays well into three figures per hour per man  without busting a gut . I don’t see any point in increasing any job by £1 that is nothing theses days , maybe some areas are poor prices but we won’t work in those areas . I don't feel putting up a £15  by £3 is excessive, we don’t do much at this price  but didn’t have a single cancellation  , we can easily do 4-6 per hour at that rate  so it’s not bad money . It’s very easy for  well priced work to suddenly go to low priced work when you look at the economic climate at this time , so I feel there is a need to put up prices again this year , we have had several ask if we are putting them up again some jobs were only increased last august and they are expecting them to go up again , I would be a fool not to put them up , I know we are in a lucky situation with a shortage of good reliable cleaners here we don’t need any more work but it still keeps coming in so it’s priced very high if we get it it’s good if we don't not worried, then we will increase the lowest paying jobs by a higher figure  again if they cancel that’s fine , as we can afford to loose them but they haven’t been cancelling they have been happy with with the rises .
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 13, 2023, 05:54:19 pm
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....


We wouldn’t normally increase the price two years running , but with the cost of living going up like it is if we get left behind in two years time the increase  will need to be £10 , the feed back from customers is they are expecting and happy with another price rise , ware we are ones aren’t short of money they aren’t council house types and ime not being rude to ones in council houses just trying to say  that ones like that don’t have the money in the first place , our customers aren’t like that they are monied people,.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: robbo333 on January 13, 2023, 05:55:40 pm
Last year, I put the prices up for some customers because, I either didn't really want the job or they were quite a bit underpriced.
This year I shall probably put up all the remaining customers 'just to break even'.
On the plus side, all the price increases last year were all ok and I've had quite a few customers say "I thought you'd be putting your prices up, because everything is going up" Naturally my reply is..."funny you should say that, you've just beaten me to it..."
I think many of my customers are expecting a price increase, many of them say "is it still £20?" as though they are expecting an increase.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 13, 2023, 06:04:16 pm
As Smudger says, without knowing the original price to which your adding your £3 to then its impossible to make a sweeping statement either way. £3  a year on a  £40 job, you could probably get away with, £3 on a £30 job you could probably use 10% inflation as a justified excuse this year, two year running might raise eyebrows, £3 on a £20 job two years on the trot and your pushing it, £3 on £10 job two years running and dont be surprised if you lose a lot of work. I've got in laws in Pompey who pay £12 and just had notification it's going upto £15,theyve said nothing but are actively looking for a new shiner, and that's without a price rise last year.

If I were going to increase a £40 job it would go up by a minimum of £5 -8  some £10
We don’t do any £10 jobs but when we did they went up to £13  .
£15 job  will be going up to £18-20 .
Out of well over 4,500 jobs increase we lost less than a hand full , I think sometimes we can be our worst enemy by not having the conference to put up prices to what they should be .
There is a window cleaner near me who earns £70 per day still doing 3 bed semis for £5 bloke is a fool but if he’s happy with that it’s up to him . He rarely picked up new work as ones openly say you cannot expect a decent job done for £5 so they won’t have him .
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Slacky on January 13, 2023, 06:24:57 pm
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 13, 2023, 06:32:41 pm
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.

I put £60 jobs up a fiver but once in 3 years not yearly....
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: simon w on January 13, 2023, 07:28:46 pm
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.

I put £60 jobs up a fiver but once in 3 years not yearly....

I've got a block we do twice a year I priced it for two days for two of us at £825.00 per clean, it never took two days only ever one day and now we get it done by 3pm and do two other smaller blocks on the way home. We've been doing this since 2016 and I've never put the price up on this one until end of last year when the property management company emailed me to ask if there was going to be a price increase for 2023 so I put the price up by 5% getting an email two days later saying the resident committee have accepted the increase and feel it was very reasonable along with the new works order for this year.  I feel like Dick Turpin each time I email the invoice over  ;)
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 13, 2023, 07:38:53 pm
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.

I put £60 jobs up a fiver but once in 3 years not yearly....

I've got a block we do twice a year I priced it for two days for two of us at £825.00 per clean, it never took two days only ever one day and now we get it done by 3pm and do two other smaller blocks on the way home. We've been doing this since 2016 and I've never put the price up on this one until end of last year when the property management company emailed me to ask if there was going to be a price increase for 2023 so I put the price up by 5% getting an email two days later saying the resident committee have accepted the increase and feel it was very reasonable along with the new works order for this year.  I feel like Dick Turpin each time I email the invoice over  ;)


I agree with jobs like this a price rise  isn’t needed , we do some blocks of flats for a well known national firm if we don’t increase price each year they question it saying they expect it to go up , I didn’t want to kill the goose that lays  the golden egg  and risk  loosing the jobs as they are really well paid so I put them up each year by less than inflation , the extra we get is nice but I was happy and still would be with the price from 15 years ago 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: DJW on January 13, 2023, 07:58:13 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 13, 2023, 08:07:45 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.


Ime not saying put up prices like this all the time but with the way everything is going at the moment customers are expecting another rise , several have already increased there own prices without us Evan asking , I will be bringing it in from march and confident we will loose minimal jobs , and there’s nothing wrong with earning £180 per hour 😂😂
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 13, 2023, 10:14:35 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 13, 2023, 10:30:14 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll
Especially the customers who are 8 weekly
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 13, 2023, 10:59:57 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 14, 2023, 07:53:51 am
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.

I put £60 jobs up a fiver but once in 3 years not yearly....

I've got a block we do twice a year I priced it for two days for two of us at £825.00 per clean, it never took two days only ever one day and now we get it done by 3pm and do two other smaller blocks on the way home. We've been doing this since 2016 and I've never put the price up on this one until end of last year when the property management company emailed me to ask if there was going to be a price increase for 2023 so I put the price up by 5% getting an email two days later saying the resident committee have accepted the increase and feel it was very reasonable along with the new works order for this year.  I feel like Dick Turpin each time I email the invoice over  ;)

Who would pay £825 for window cleaning?absolute madness!esp if it only takes til 3pm for 2 of you.what a total rip off......
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Post by: dazmond on January 14, 2023, 08:04:30 am
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .

You say  that your employees can clean 6 -8 properties an hour blah blah blah....if you put the customers prices up even £2 each would mean that you d be earning an extra £12-£16 an hour on that work which is far higher than the rate of inflation and then you say your gonna put them up again this year?which would mean that in 2 years you d be earning £24-£32 an hour EXTRA on that work....

I'm not sure on percentages but it's obviously way higher than inflation....

Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 14, 2023, 09:36:48 am
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.

I put £60 jobs up a fiver but once in 3 years not yearly....

I've got a block we do twice a year I priced it for two days for two of us at £825.00 per clean, it never took two days only ever one day and now we get it done by 3pm and do two other smaller blocks on the way home. We've been doing this since 2016 and I've never put the price up on this one until end of last year when the property management company emailed me to ask if there was going to be a price increase for 2023 so I put the price up by 5% getting an email two days later saying the resident committee have accepted the increase and feel it was very reasonable along with the new works order for this year.  I feel like Dick Turpin each time I email the invoice over  ;)

Who would pay £825 for window cleaning?absolute madness!esp if it only takes til 3pm for 2 of you.what a total rip off......
Depending when they start that’s probably £60-£80 per man per hour. Isn’t that what you look to achieve per hour?
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 14, 2023, 09:41:54 am
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .
Going by one of your earlier posts are you really raising prices by an average of around 25% two years in a row and using inflation which is just north of 10%  as an excuse? I take it none of your customers are any good at maths?
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: NBwcs on January 14, 2023, 10:35:51 am
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .
Going by one of your earlier posts are you really raising prices by an average of around 25% two years in a row and using inflation which is just north of 10%  as an excuse? I take it none of your customers are any good at maths?



Its madness, you only have to switch on the tv and we're bombarded with news about the NHS. That's the NHS , probably the most highly respected workforce in this country who were hailed as hero's over the pandemic, who had people out on the streets clapping them, who quite literally save lives, and who have just been offered a  2.1% payrise for 2023 whilst inflation is north of 10%, yet a low skilled window cleaner thinks he can justify hitting his customers with two £3 rises on a £15 property two years running! If you put those prices up at the same time of year ie say the start of the tax year 5th of April then the reality is, that customers price has gone up from £15 to £21 in the space of 1 year and 1 day! The vast majority of wages in this country wont be going up 10%, yet they'll be expected to swallow a 40% jump in price on their window cleaning bill in just over a year! Good luck with that, any workman who upped his prices like that for a "service" for me  without actually supplying a product would get told to sling his hook.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 14, 2023, 10:58:38 am
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.

I put £60 jobs up a fiver but once in 3 years not yearly....

I've got a block we do twice a year I priced it for two days for two of us at £825.00 per clean, it never took two days only ever one day and now we get it done by 3pm and do two other smaller blocks on the way home. We've been doing this since 2016 and I've never put the price up on this one until end of last year when the property management company emailed me to ask if there was going to be a price increase for 2023 so I put the price up by 5% getting an email two days later saying the resident committee have accepted the increase and feel it was very reasonable along with the new works order for this year.  I feel like Dick Turpin each time I email the invoice over  ;)

Who would pay £825 for window cleaning?absolute madness!esp if it only takes til 3pm for 2 of you.what a total rip off......



It’s not a rip off its business this is  how ones expand  we do similar  priced jobs , I think the green eyed  monster syndrome is affecting your posts 😂😂
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 14, 2023, 11:03:45 am
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .

You say  that your employees can clean 6 -8 properties an hour blah blah blah....if you put the customers prices up even £2 each would mean that you d be earning an extra £12-£16 an hour on that work which is far higher than the rate of inflation and then you say your gonna put them up again this year?which would mean that in 2 years you d be earning £24-£32 an hour EXTRA on that work....

I'm not sure on percentages but it's obviously way higher than inflation....



Again read the posts correctly I said 4-6  per hour  not 6-8   Good buissiness sense means you increase prices regularly to keep increasing profits , but as a one man band you don’t have to pay the same costs as an employer
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: simon w on January 14, 2023, 11:27:24 am
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.

I put £60 jobs up a fiver but once in 3 years not yearly....

I've got a block we do twice a year I priced it for two days for two of us at £825.00 per clean, it never took two days only ever one day and now we get it done by 3pm and do two other smaller blocks on the way home. We've been doing this since 2016 and I've never put the price up on this one until end of last year when the property management company emailed me to ask if there was going to be a price increase for 2023 so I put the price up by 5% getting an email two days later saying the resident committee have accepted the increase and feel it was very reasonable along with the new works order for this year.  I feel like Dick Turpin each time I email the invoice over  ;)

Who would pay £825 for window cleaning?absolute madness!esp if it only takes til 3pm for 2 of you.what a total rip off......

Your only a part timer in a little van daz, you couldn't hold the kind of accounts I do , every time you boast about record days I'm just left wondering what all the fuss is about. If you think 1k in a day isn't achievable  in window cleaning then all I can say is you know less about the industry than you think you do.

The Dick Turpin part was tongue in cheek, I believe I deserve every single penny of it,  it takes hard work, networking and good business skills to get accounts like these and to hold them for years on end.  You'll never have accounts like these daz even if you do carry on working/live until your 70  ;D

Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Smudger on January 14, 2023, 11:27:36 am
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.

I put £60 jobs up a fiver but once in 3 years not yearly....

I've got a block we do twice a year I priced it for two days for two of us at £825.00 per clean, it never took two days only ever one day and now we get it done by 3pm and do two other smaller blocks on the way home. We've been doing this since 2016 and I've never put the price up on this one until end of last year when the property management company emailed me to ask if there was going to be a price increase for 2023 so I put the price up by 5% getting an email two days later saying the resident committee have accepted the increase and feel it was very reasonable along with the new works order for this year.  I feel like Dick Turpin each time I email the invoice over  ;)

Who would pay £825 for window cleaning?absolute madness!esp if it only takes til 3pm for 2 of you.what a total rip off......

You are funny Daz - you brag constantly about your hourly rate - part two me hours etc - but as soon as someone does something better they are rip off merchants 😵‍💫

How about saying - wow great result - that’s a good rate you’ve achieved for that job…

Darran
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: DJW on January 14, 2023, 12:39:30 pm
Yer, but Daz has been to the Maldives!
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: simon w on January 14, 2023, 01:19:38 pm
Yer, but Daz has been to the Maldives!

Leave him, daz'll be daz  ;D
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: deeege on January 14, 2023, 02:19:25 pm
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.

I put £60 jobs up a fiver but once in 3 years not yearly....

I've got a block we do twice a year I priced it for two days for two of us at £825.00 per clean, it never took two days only ever one day and now we get it done by 3pm and do two other smaller blocks on the way home. We've been doing this since 2016 and I've never put the price up on this one until end of last year when the property management company emailed me to ask if there was going to be a price increase for 2023 so I put the price up by 5% getting an email two days later saying the resident committee have accepted the increase and feel it was very reasonable along with the new works order for this year.  I feel like Dick Turpin each time I email the invoice over  ;)

Who would pay £825 for window cleaning?absolute madness!esp if it only takes til 3pm for 2 of you.what a total rip off......

2 men x 7 hours = 14 hours.

£825 / 14 hours = £58 per man hour.

TOTAL RIP OFF!!!!

(Says Daz, who aims to earn £60-£80 per hour on the glass!)

Think before you post Daz  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 14, 2023, 04:32:07 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .
Going by one of your earlier posts are you really raising prices by an average of around 25% two years in a row and using inflation which is just north of 10%  as an excuse? I take it none of your customers are any good at maths?



Its madness, you only have to switch on the tv and we're bombarded with news about the NHS. That's the NHS , probably the most highly respected workforce in this country who were hailed as hero's over the pandemic, who had people out on the streets clapping them, who quite literally save lives, and who have just been offered a  2.1% payrise for 2023 whilst inflation is north of 10%, yet a low skilled window cleaner thinks he can justify hitting his customers with two £3 rises on a £15 property two years running! If you put those prices up at the same time of year ie say the start of the tax year 5th of April then the reality is, that customers price has gone up from £15 to £21 in the space of 1 year and 1 day! The vast majority of wages in this country wont be going up 10%, yet they'll be expected to swallow a 40% jump in price on their window cleaning bill in just over a year! Good luck with that, any workman who upped his prices like that for a "service" for me  without actually supplying a product would get told to sling his hook.

Exactly...Splash and dash is the worst for bragging about how he has no competition and 4500 customers blah blah blah and all his customers except the prices rises no problem and ask him when he will put them up again(they can't wait!) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 14, 2023, 05:03:55 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .
Going by one of your earlier posts are you really raising prices by an average of around 25% two years in a row and using inflation which is just north of 10%  as an excuse? I take it none of your customers are any good at maths?


Price rises are usually every 2 years but with the way prices of everything are rising at this time everyone is expecting a price rise shopping in Tesco stuff gives up every week so us increasing prices two years on the Trott is expected. With a usual 2 yearly price increase we don’t base that on inflation , ime not interest  in odd prices or £1 increase  it would have to be a minimum of £2 increase on our cheapest jobs , I always round up to the nearest pound , what others choose to do is up to them but if a customer cannot afford it that’s fine we have plenty that will pay it , we don’t need the work so I would be a fool to keep lower priced work when ones are more than happy to pay higher .
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 14, 2023, 05:10:09 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .
Going by one of your earlier posts are you really raising prices by an average of around 25% two years in a row and using inflation which is just north of 10%  as an excuse? I take it none of your customers are any good at maths?



Its madness, you only have to switch on the tv and we're bombarded with news about the NHS. That's the NHS , probably the most highly respected workforce in this country who were hailed as hero's over the pandemic, who had people out on the streets clapping them, who quite literally save lives, and who have just been offered a  2.1% payrise for 2023 whilst inflation is north of 10%, yet a low skilled window cleaner thinks he can justify hitting his customers with two £3 rises on a £15 property two years running! If you put those prices up at the same time of year ie say the start of the tax year 5th of April then the reality is, that customers price has gone up from £15 to £21 in the space of 1 year and 1 day! The vast majority of wages in this country wont be going up 10%, yet they'll be expected to swallow a 40% jump in price on their window cleaning bill in just over a year! Good luck with that, any workman who upped his prices like that for a "service" for me  without actually supplying a product would get told to sling his hook.

Exactly...Splash and dash is the worst for bragging about how he has no competition and 4500 customers blah blah blah and all his customers except the prices rises no problem and ask him when he will put them up again(they can't wait!) ;D ;D ;D ;D


Don’t think I said it was two £3 price rises one was £3 last year and this year it will probably a £2 increase  on our cheapest jobs . Higher priced jobs will be considerably  more .
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: NBwcs on January 14, 2023, 05:53:02 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .
Going by one of your earlier posts are you really raising prices by an average of around 25% two years in a row and using inflation which is just north of 10%  as an excuse? I take it none of your customers are any good at maths?



Its madness, you only have to switch on the tv and we're bombarded with news about the NHS. That's the NHS , probably the most highly respected workforce in this country who were hailed as hero's over the pandemic, who had people out on the streets clapping them, who quite literally save lives, and who have just been offered a  2.1% payrise for 2023 whilst inflation is north of 10%, yet a low skilled window cleaner thinks he can justify hitting his customers with two £3 rises on a £15 property two years running! If you put those prices up at the same time of year ie say the start of the tax year 5th of April then the reality is, that customers price has gone up from £15 to £21 in the space of 1 year and 1 day! The vast majority of wages in this country wont be going up 10%, yet they'll be expected to swallow a 40% jump in price on their window cleaning bill in just over a year! Good luck with that, any workman who upped his prices like that for a "service" for me  without actually supplying a product would get told to sling his hook.

Exactly...Splash and dash is the worst for bragging about how he has no competition and 4500 customers blah blah blah and all his customers except the prices rises no problem and ask him when he will put them up again(they can't wait!) ;D ;D ;D ;D


Don’t think I said it was two £3 price rises one was £3 last year and this year it will probably a £2 increase  on our cheapest jobs . Higher priced jobs will be considerably  more .



Quote "£15 job  will be going up to £18-20 ."
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 14, 2023, 06:13:07 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .
Going by one of your earlier posts are you really raising prices by an average of around 25% two years in a row and using inflation which is just north of 10%  as an excuse? I take it none of your customers are any good at maths?



Its madness, you only have to switch on the tv and we're bombarded with news about the NHS. That's the NHS , probably the most highly respected workforce in this country who were hailed as hero's over the pandemic, who had people out on the streets clapping them, who quite literally save lives, and who have just been offered a  2.1% payrise for 2023 whilst inflation is north of 10%, yet a low skilled window cleaner thinks he can justify hitting his customers with two £3 rises on a £15 property two years running! If you put those prices up at the same time of year ie say the start of the tax year 5th of April then the reality is, that customers price has gone up from £15 to £21 in the space of 1 year and 1 day! The vast majority of wages in this country wont be going up 10%, yet they'll be expected to swallow a 40% jump in price on their window cleaning bill in just over a year! Good luck with that, any workman who upped his prices like that for a "service" for me  without actually supplying a product would get told to sling his hook.

Exactly...Splash and dash is the worst for bragging about how he has no competition and 4500 customers blah blah blah and all his customers except the prices rises no problem and ask him when he will put them up again(they can't wait!) ;D ;D ;D ;D


Don’t think I said it was two £3 price rises one was £3 last year and this year it will probably a £2 increase  on our cheapest jobs . Higher priced jobs will be considerably  more .



Quote "£15 job  will be going up to £18-20 ."


So a bit of simple maths £3 last year  £2 this year total £5 so a total of £5 increase in two years so  a £15 job will be £20 or with a bit of discretion £18
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: dazmond on January 14, 2023, 06:38:32 pm
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.

I put £60 jobs up a fiver but once in 3 years not yearly....

I've got a block we do twice a year I priced it for two days for two of us at £825.00 per clean, it never took two days only ever one day and now we get it done by 3pm and do two other smaller blocks on the way home. We've been doing this since 2016 and I've never put the price up on this one until end of last year when the property management company emailed me to ask if there was going to be a price increase for 2023 so I put the price up by 5% getting an email two days later saying the resident committee have accepted the increase and feel it was very reasonable along with the new works order for this year.  I feel like Dick Turpin each time I email the invoice over  ;)

Who would pay £825 for window cleaning?absolute madness!esp if it only takes til 3pm for 2 of you.what a total rip off......

Your only a part timer in a little van daz, you couldn't hold the kind of accounts I do , every time you boast about record days I'm just left wondering what all the fuss is about. If you think 1k in a day isn't achievable  in window cleaning then all I can say is you know less about the industry than you think you do.

The Dick Turpin part was tongue in cheek, I believe I deserve every single penny of it,  it takes hard work, networking and good business skills to get accounts like these and to hold them for years on end.  You'll never have accounts like these daz even if you do carry on working/live until your 70  ;D

True....as I've quoted for 2 management company jobs in the past and got turned down for being too expensive(and they were much lower than £800+!) 😄😄
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: simon w on January 14, 2023, 06:57:26 pm
Putting up a job yearly by £3 each time is taking the pee IMO...its far too much and too often..

I wouldn't do it....

Not if the job is £60 it isn't.

I put £60 jobs up a fiver but once in 3 years not yearly....

I've got a block we do twice a year I priced it for two days for two of us at £825.00 per clean, it never took two days only ever one day and now we get it done by 3pm and do two other smaller blocks on the way home. We've been doing this since 2016 and I've never put the price up on this one until end of last year when the property management company emailed me to ask if there was going to be a price increase for 2023 so I put the price up by 5% getting an email two days later saying the resident committee have accepted the increase and feel it was very reasonable along with the new works order for this year.  I feel like Dick Turpin each time I email the invoice over  ;)

Who would pay £825 for window cleaning?absolute madness!esp if it only takes til 3pm for 2 of you.what a total rip off......

Your only a part timer in a little van daz, you couldn't hold the kind of accounts I do , every time you boast about record days I'm just left wondering what all the fuss is about. If you think 1k in a day isn't achievable  in window cleaning then all I can say is you know less about the industry than you think you do.

The Dick Turpin part was tongue in cheek, I believe I deserve every single penny of it,  it takes hard work, networking and good business skills to get accounts like these and to hold them for years on end.  You'll never have accounts like these daz even if you do carry on working/live until your 70  ;D

True....as I've quoted for 2 management company jobs in the past and got turned down for being too expensive(and they were much lower than £800+!) 😄😄

We can have better days doing half a dozen smaller blocks than one large one Daz. 😉
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 14, 2023, 08:29:49 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .
Going by one of your earlier posts are you really raising prices by an average of around 25% two years in a row and using inflation which is just north of 10%  as an excuse? I take it none of your customers are any good at maths?



Its madness, you only have to switch on the tv and we're bombarded with news about the NHS. That's the NHS , probably the most highly respected workforce in this country who were hailed as hero's over the pandemic, who had people out on the streets clapping them, who quite literally save lives, and who have just been offered a  2.1% payrise for 2023 whilst inflation is north of 10%, yet a low skilled window cleaner thinks he can justify hitting his customers with two £3 rises on a £15 property two years running! If you put those prices up at the same time of year ie say the start of the tax year 5th of April then the reality is, that customers price has gone up from £15 to £21 in the space of 1 year and 1 day! The vast majority of wages in this country wont be going up 10%, yet they'll be expected to swallow a 40% jump in price on their window cleaning bill in just over a year! Good luck with that, any workman who upped his prices like that for a "service" for me  without actually supplying a product would get told to sling his hook.

Exactly...Splash and dash is the worst for bragging about how he has no competition and 4500 customers blah blah blah and all his customers except the prices rises no problem and ask him when he will put them up again(they can't wait!) ;D ;D ;D ;D



It’s not bragging it’s a fact there is very little credible  competition down hear , make hay while the sun shines , just because you cannot achieve the same as others doesn’t mean it can’t be done , especially when you have employees  , to turn a decent profit theses are the figures you need to be achieving every working day or you won’t be in business long  , as others have said  it’s not difficult to get well into 4 figures with two guys in a van doing commercial work , why do you think we travel over 300 miles to some of our work  , it’s not for the fun of it it’s because we earn very good money from it  even after  all expenses.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: NBwcs on January 14, 2023, 09:59:07 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .
Going by one of your earlier posts are you really raising prices by an average of around 25% two years in a row and using inflation which is just north of 10%  as an excuse? I take it none of your customers are any good at maths?



Its madness, you only have to switch on the tv and we're bombarded with news about the NHS. That's the NHS , probably the most highly respected workforce in this country who were hailed as hero's over the pandemic, who had people out on the streets clapping them, who quite literally save lives, and who have just been offered a  2.1% payrise for 2023 whilst inflation is north of 10%, yet a low skilled window cleaner thinks he can justify hitting his customers with two £3 rises on a £15 property two years running! If you put those prices up at the same time of year ie say the start of the tax year 5th of April then the reality is, that customers price has gone up from £15 to £21 in the space of 1 year and 1 day! The vast majority of wages in this country wont be going up 10%, yet they'll be expected to swallow a 40% jump in price on their window cleaning bill in just over a year! Good luck with that, any workman who upped his prices like that for a "service" for me  without actually supplying a product would get told to sling his hook.

Exactly...Splash and dash is the worst for bragging about how he has no competition and 4500 customers blah blah blah and all his customers except the prices rises no problem and ask him when he will put them up again(they can't wait!) ;D ;D ;D ;D


Don’t think I said it was two £3 price rises one was £3 last year and this year it will probably a £2 increase  on our cheapest jobs . Higher priced jobs will be considerably  more .



Quote "£15 job  will be going up to £18-20 ."


So a bit of simple maths £3 last year  £2 this year total £5 so a total of £5 increase in two years so  a £15 job will be £20 or with a bit of discretion £18

Your words..

"3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut ."

"£15 job  will be going up to £18-20 ."

So by a process of simple maths... This years £15 job was £12 last year because you put everything up £3, and this year its going up by another £3 to £5 , So £12 to either £18 or £20 in the space of just over a year... so at best an increase of 50% at worse an increase of 66,6 %...   Your figures Splash
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 14, 2023, 10:23:33 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .
Going by one of your earlier posts are you really raising prices by an average of around 25% two years in a row and using inflation which is just north of 10%  as an excuse? I take it none of your customers are any good at maths?



Its madness, you only have to switch on the tv and we're bombarded with news about the NHS. That's the NHS , probably the most highly respected workforce in this country who were hailed as hero's over the pandemic, who had people out on the streets clapping them, who quite literally save lives, and who have just been offered a  2.1% payrise for 2023 whilst inflation is north of 10%, yet a low skilled window cleaner thinks he can justify hitting his customers with two £3 rises on a £15 property two years running! If you put those prices up at the same time of year ie say the start of the tax year 5th of April then the reality is, that customers price has gone up from £15 to £21 in the space of 1 year and 1 day! The vast majority of wages in this country wont be going up 10%, yet they'll be expected to swallow a 40% jump in price on their window cleaning bill in just over a year! Good luck with that, any workman who upped his prices like that for a "service" for me  without actually supplying a product would get told to sling his hook.

Exactly...Splash and dash is the worst for bragging about how he has no competition and 4500 customers blah blah blah and all his customers except the prices rises no problem and ask him when he will put them up again(they can't wait!) ;D ;D ;D ;D


Don’t think I said it was two £3 price rises one was £3 last year and this year it will probably a £2 increase  on our cheapest jobs . Higher priced jobs will be considerably  more .



Quote "£15 job  will be going up to £18-20 ."


So a bit of simple maths £3 last year  £2 this year total £5 so a total of £5 increase in two years so  a £15 job will be £20 or with a bit of discretion £18

Your words..

"3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut ."

"£15 job  will be going up to £18-20 ."

So by a process of simple maths... This years £15 job was £12 last year because you put everything up £3, and this year its going up by another £3 to £5 , So £12 to either £18 or £20 in the space of just over a year... so at best an increase of 50% at worse an increase of 66,6 %...   Your figures Splash


Read the bit you have highlighted in red by a similar  amount NOT THE SAME AMOUNT AMOUNT
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: NBwcs on January 14, 2023, 10:31:49 pm
If I put up my £15 jobs I got fifteen years ago by £3 every year they would all be £60 now.
Somehow I don’t think I’d have many left.

I’d be earning about £180 an hour.

Exactly there is some BS and exaggeration in regards to price rises on here..there is no way most customers would except a price rise year on year.a year goes by so fast....same with the BS saying "well you must be taking a pay cut year after year if you don't put them up every year!" ::)roll


Read the posts again and correctly, I said due to the current financial situation it will be necessary to increase prices again this year after having  increased them last year , normally we have a price rise every other year or so , but inflation has risen that much over the  year and in most areas continues to rise so a further price rise is needed you are paying more for  most things now than last year month on month so we need to keep pace with inflation with our price rises  or we are in effect taking a pay cut , this is Evan more important when employing , it’s not rocket science , if you don’t increase your prices  for two years at the current rate of inflation you will need to do a much higher rise when you do .
Going by one of your earlier posts are you really raising prices by an average of around 25% two years in a row and using inflation which is just north of 10%  as an excuse? I take it none of your customers are any good at maths?



Its madness, you only have to switch on the tv and we're bombarded with news about the NHS. That's the NHS , probably the most highly respected workforce in this country who were hailed as hero's over the pandemic, who had people out on the streets clapping them, who quite literally save lives, and who have just been offered a  2.1% payrise for 2023 whilst inflation is north of 10%, yet a low skilled window cleaner thinks he can justify hitting his customers with two £3 rises on a £15 property two years running! If you put those prices up at the same time of year ie say the start of the tax year 5th of April then the reality is, that customers price has gone up from £15 to £21 in the space of 1 year and 1 day! The vast majority of wages in this country wont be going up 10%, yet they'll be expected to swallow a 40% jump in price on their window cleaning bill in just over a year! Good luck with that, any workman who upped his prices like that for a "service" for me  without actually supplying a product would get told to sling his hook.

Exactly...Splash and dash is the worst for bragging about how he has no competition and 4500 customers blah blah blah and all his customers except the prices rises no problem and ask him when he will put them up again(they can't wait!) ;D ;D ;D ;D


Don’t think I said it was two £3 price rises one was £3 last year and this year it will probably a £2 increase  on our cheapest jobs . Higher priced jobs will be considerably  more .



Quote "£15 job  will be going up to £18-20 ."


So a bit of simple maths £3 last year  £2 this year total £5 so a total of £5 increase in two years so  a £15 job will be £20 or with a bit of discretion £18

Your words..

"3 years and only a £1-2 increase ?.. that’s way to little we put ours up last year by a minimum of £3  and they will be going up again this year by a similar amount dearer the job the more the increase, you will in effect be taking a huge pay cut ."

"£15 job  will be going up to £18-20 ."

So by a process of simple maths... This years £15 job was £12 last year because you put everything up £3, and this year its going up by another £3 to £5 , So £12 to either £18 or £20 in the space of just over a year... so at best an increase of 50% at worse an increase of 66,6 %...   Your figures Splash


Read the bit you have highlighted in red by a similar  amount NOT THE SAME AMOUNT AMOUNT

Read the quote below it,,,"£15 job  will be going up to £18-20 ."
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 15, 2023, 09:26:50 am
Hello and good morning, willy wavers.

Please tone it down and play nicely like good boys.

 ;D
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: deeege on January 15, 2023, 11:34:10 am
Interesting to hear differing opinions on what is considered a ‘total rip off’ these days.

I’d bet there are some old boy tradders that lurk on here and consider Daz’s record days of £350 ish a complete rip off, while they themselves limit themselves to earning £150 a day.

Then there’s Daz who considers Simons £412.50 per man day a complete rip off, when in real terms those earnings per hour are actually less than Daz himself aims to earn.

Who’s next to claim earnings of £1000 per day to keep the discussion going……. ;D
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: DJW on January 15, 2023, 11:52:36 am
Well if people are crass enough or stupid enough to want to post their earnings or even made up figures they will unfortunately attract some criticism, particularly when they post nonsence! 🤣
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 15, 2023, 01:47:03 pm
Well if people are crass enough or stupid enough to want to post their earnings or even made up figures they will unfortunately attract some criticism, particularly when they post nonsence! 🤣


Again just for  the record  because you cannot do something  doesn’t mean no one else can’t either. I know many that earn well over £1.000  per day with one van and two guys on commercial work , and before some  smart ass starts commenting that’s total takings for the day not profit
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: simon w on January 15, 2023, 03:07:54 pm
Well if people are crass enough or stupid enough to want to post their earnings or even made up figures they will unfortunately attract some criticism, particularly when they post nonsence! 🤣

If replies are in context with the OP then why would it be crass? You wouldn't know if figures are made up you'd just be guessing based on your own personal work experience.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: DJW on January 15, 2023, 04:40:15 pm
Don’t think the op even mentioned earnings!


“Does anyone use a service for price increases that takes a standard message and inserts their price rise from say an excel sheet?

I’m looking to increase them again in April so informing in March.  Last year I manually text most of the customers which was a fair bit of work”
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Frankybadboy on January 15, 2023, 05:09:40 pm
so a price raise in 20-21 and then two price rises  in 21-22 and if i am honest they needed it and bring me in line to what i should have done 5years ago on low price work,and even the higher price work had the same increases

some bigger jobs have gone up between £5-£20 in two raises last year

blocks management work also went up once
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: a900 on January 15, 2023, 07:12:13 pm
Don’t think the op even mentioned earnings!


“Does anyone use a service for price increases that takes a standard message and inserts their price rise from say an excel sheet?

I’m looking to increase them again in April so informing in March.  Last year I manually text most of the customers which was a fair bit of work”


Haha. 2 true. It’s funny though when you look back at a topic you started and it’s 4 pages in …interesting but defo not what you originally asked.

So going back to what i asked before does anyone have the details on how the automated price rise part works within cleaner planner. Or shall I just contact them? And let the new convo continue and check back in a week for the giggles 😂😂
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: jonboywalton75 on January 16, 2023, 04:13:59 pm
Check back for giggles
That's what I do🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Bungle on January 16, 2023, 04:52:25 pm
Check back for giggles
That's what I do🤣🤣🤣

Me too. The bragging/bull💩 goes off the scale. Thing is, if you lie you'll sooner or later contradict yourself.

'Look at me I can do a grand a day...I don't need an MOT because my van is brand new.' No need for it.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: a900 on January 16, 2023, 07:25:00 pm
Also. Can we learn to quote only the bit we are trying to quote. Not 5 pages of chat quoted 😂😂
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: CleanClear on January 17, 2023, 09:52:11 am
Don’t think the op even mentioned earnings!


“Does anyone use a service for price increases that takes a standard message and inserts their price rise from say an excel sheet?

I’m looking to increase them again in April so informing in March.  Last year I manually text most of the customers which was a fair bit of work”


Haha. 2 true. It’s funny though when you look back at a topic you started and it’s 4 pages in …interesting but defo not what you originally asked.

So going back to what i asked before does anyone have the details on how the automated price rise part works within cleaner planner. Or shall I just contact them? And let the new convo continue and check back in a week for the giggles 😂😂

I'm reading this with great interest. How to put prices up without letting them know yourself because its a ballache, and then get cleaner planner to automatically do it for you. There is a way to achieve this:

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1673949128_db.jpg)
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: simon w on January 17, 2023, 12:32:38 pm
Check back for giggles
That's what I do

Me too. The bragging/bull goes off the scale. Thing is, if you lie you'll sooner or later contradict yourself.

'Look at me I can do a grand a day...I don't need an MOT because my van is brand new.' No need for it.

Would it make you feel better if I said I earn £100 per day and my vans 15 years old?

I didn't say we earn a grand a day , I said there are days during the year where we earn a grand in a day cleaning windows.
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Splash & dash on January 17, 2023, 05:47:47 pm
Check back for giggles
That's what I do

Me too. The bragging/bull goes off the scale. Thing is, if you lie you'll sooner or later contradict yourself.

'Look at me I can do a grand a day...I don't need an MOT because my van is brand new.' No need for it.

Would it make you feel better if I said I earn £100 per day and my vans 15 years old?

I didn't say we earn a grand a day , I said there are days during the year where we earn a grand in a day cleaning windows.



Just ignore the green eyed sceptics 😂😂
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Slacky on January 17, 2023, 10:41:10 pm
I did £1,600 one day a couple of months back solar panel cleaning.....
Title: Re: Price increase text message
Post by: Slacky on January 17, 2023, 10:41:19 pm
Today I did nought.