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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: AuRavelling79 on December 23, 2022, 12:46:30 pm

Title: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 23, 2022, 12:46:30 pm
Up until last month I would always change my brush angle for roof lights to about 90 degrees to the glass and often still do to get height over the roof edge.

However I have now been trying a different approach when there are roof lights on a single storey extension and typically bedroom windows above.

Instead of doing the bedroom windows, collapsing the pole and adjusting the brush head to 90 degrees and re extending, I set the brush for the bedroom windows, maybe slightly more angled than normal and then if the roof edge allows, use it for the roof lights.

I was concerned that the jets might bring grit or muck down from the top edge but generally it seems ok and saves me a pole collapse and brush adjustment. Probably saving about 30 seconds and some pole wear.

Have I got to the point of diminishing returns?  ;D

How do you do roof lights on regular work?
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: dazmond on December 23, 2022, 01:21:41 pm
I never adjust the angle as I mainly use a 55 degree carbon gooseneck for most of my work.my brush is not totally  flat on the glass on  some skylights but I can still clean them effectively
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: SB Cleaning on December 23, 2022, 01:25:45 pm
I never adjust the angle as I mainly use a 55 degree carbon gooseneck.
How does that work for windows up the side of the house where its tight?
I'm constantly adjusting  the angle of my brush throughout the day to get the brush nice and flat out the glass.
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: dazmond on December 23, 2022, 01:57:50 pm
I never adjust the angle as I mainly use a 55 degree carbon gooseneck.
How does that work for windows up the side of the house where its tight?
I'm constantly adjusting  the angle of my brush throughout the day to get the brush nice and flat out the glass.

perfect angle.... ;)

its a waste of time messing about changing the angle of your brush all the time...i adjust the angle of the  pole instead
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: SB Cleaning on December 23, 2022, 02:32:49 pm
I never adjust the angle as I mainly use a 55 degree carbon gooseneck.
How does that work for windows up the side of the house where its tight?
I'm constantly adjusting  the angle of my brush throughout the day to get the brush nice and flat out the glass.

perfect angle.... ;)

its a waste of time messing about changing the angle of your brush all the time...i adjust the angle of the  pole instead
Each to their own but i couldnt work like that, and it's hardly messing about wasting  time adjusting the angle it literally takes 2 secs.
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on December 23, 2022, 04:12:55 pm
I use a swivel, problem solved, no adjustment required between windows and roof lights. 😎👌
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 23, 2022, 05:06:40 pm
I use a swivel, problem solved, no adjustment required between windows and roof lights. 😎👌

Explain please. I don't understand what you mean.
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on December 23, 2022, 05:26:55 pm
I use a swivel, problem solved, no adjustment required between windows and roof lights. 😎👌

Explain please. I don't understand what you mean.
I just turn the brush vertical and clean the velux side to side, perfect brush to glass angle on both window and velux just by a twist of the pole.👍
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 23, 2022, 05:35:34 pm
I use a swivel, problem solved, no adjustment required between windows and roof lights. 😎👌

Explain please. I don't understand what you mean.
I just turn the brush vertical and clean the velux side to side, perfect brush to glass angle on both window and velux just by a twist of the pole.👍

Oh I see. Thanks. What swivel (manufacturer) do you use?
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: DJW on December 23, 2022, 05:45:31 pm
Sill brush (extreme) and swivel.
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 23, 2022, 05:52:24 pm
Sill brush (extreme) and swivel.

Spell it out for me chaps.

What is on the end of your pole as in the swivel and neck bit(s)? Which manufacturer?
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: DJW on December 23, 2022, 06:08:53 pm
Gardiners of course.
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: DJW on December 23, 2022, 06:11:49 pm
Once you’ve mastered the swivel there’s no looking back (as opposed to the flounce or the mince).

I have a carbon gooseneck that gets used on  one job only on my whole round. A swivel is so much more versatile, wouldn’t be without it.
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: DJW on December 23, 2022, 06:27:13 pm
https://youtu.be/pHo-Eu-rhJc
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: Smudger on December 23, 2022, 06:37:34 pm
in 12 years THAT is the first time someone has pointed out an actual good use for a swivel.

unfortunately I don't like them - never really been a problem either standing in a different place - angling the pole to do any window
but I see the advantage on a skylight

Darran
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: Slacky on December 23, 2022, 07:22:11 pm
Wouldn’t be without a swivel these days.
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: carl stanton on December 23, 2022, 08:59:52 pm
I also like to use the swivel Gardiner adapter.
As said it takes time to get used to it but personally think it’s worth pushing through and getting used to it. The brush will will have full face contact with the glass and get in the corners less strain from funny positioning.

https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/quick-loqr-swivel-adapter.html
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on December 24, 2022, 08:21:27 am
They work far better with a 45 degree brush connection rather than 90 degree. In the video above, it looks like he's using 90 degree as his angles are more limited and look awkward. Gardiners sell a 45 degree swivel quick loq adaptor- it makes all the difference! The original 'Gaz' swivel was also angled, this is why it was so good.👍
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: Ggh on December 24, 2022, 09:32:11 am
You’re all over thinking it. Window cleaning does that to you because it’s so profoundly boring and the mind starts to wander.

Just put any brush on it, at any angle, scrub a bit and pull all the loose bits down to the bottom of the velux.
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on December 24, 2022, 10:09:28 am
Here's a list of what I recommend.
Water through neck, great for both swivels and univalves, allows both to work as they should.
https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/quick-loq-angle-adapter-type-1.html

Angled swivel adaptor (quicl loq to fit neck quoted above).
https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/quick-loqr-angled-swivel-brush-socket-adapter.html

Close coupled jet assembly. This allows the swivel full spectrum movement without resistance from the hose- giving a better overall experience.
https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/2-way-close-coupled-jet-hose-assembly.html

You can adjust the tension of the swivel to suit your preference, from completely loose and floppy to rigid. I recommend just enough to stop the brush flopping when off the glass.  You must allow a little time and practice to get used to how it feels and works, it will feel very different to begin with but I can almost guarantee you'll never look back if you master it. It's all in the wrist/twist of the pole to manipulate the brush angle. You'll require much less body movement and effort throughout the day by utilising the swivel to your advantage.😎👌

I'll just add, that all of the above will just become natural in a short time and you'll be applying it without even thinking about it. The benefits of the swivel are many, way too much to be writing about on xmas eve!👍

Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: NWH on December 24, 2022, 12:21:32 pm
I’ve never had an issue with just using a 50 degree gooseneck you can’t see if you’re going up to high and what the top edge is like anyway when you’ve rinsed so it’s not an issue for me,people are glad to have them cleaned it’s what you’re used to using and at what angle.
Title: Re: Roof lights, brush angle - on regular cleans.
Post by: Stoots on December 24, 2022, 01:06:58 pm
I've always adjusted the angle too that's the best way to clean them.

But to be honest I'd be better off just binning these jobs off I only have about half a dozen left

As for swivels I've tried them and they are better in some tights areas but worse in other scenarios such as using the sides of the brush head to scrat something off. I can work with or without them you just get used to it either way.