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Title: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Granny on December 19, 2022, 06:37:02 am
Think the element has gone.
Thing is I will have to empty the tank and turn it around to get another in.
Anyone know where I can get a submersible water heater I can drop in through the top of the tank in the meantime?
All I've found is American 110 volt or aquarium heaters that are too low wattage.
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: simon w on December 19, 2022, 06:57:25 am
Think the element has gone.
Thing is I will have to empty the tank and turn it around to get another in.
Anyone know where I can get a submersible water heater I can drop in through the top of the tank in the meantime?
All I've found is American 110 volt or aquarium heaters that are too low wattage.

Empty tank cleaning windows?
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Smudger on December 19, 2022, 09:24:12 am
Soupy put up a link on the frozen thread

Darran
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Granny on December 19, 2022, 02:36:40 pm
Ta!
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Granny on December 23, 2022, 10:25:19 am
For anyone who's thinking of an immersion heater.
This came yesterday.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385105577179?var=652982679426
Heats a bucket of water in minutes.
Just drop it in wires and all!
Much happier with this on a timer than I was with the 3kw immersion, as it's on a standard 13 amp circuit.
If it works I won't bother fitting another especially as I'm having trouble finding a 2kw immersion.
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: dazmond on December 23, 2022, 02:00:47 pm
what can go wrong?bargain at £14!
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: NWH on December 23, 2022, 02:05:22 pm
What’s the point in that are you thinking about heating a bucket of water only.
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Smudger on December 23, 2022, 02:06:37 pm
You can’t really but try to get a uk plug version
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Splash & dash on December 23, 2022, 02:48:41 pm
For anyone who's thinking of an immersion heater.
This came yesterday.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385105577179?var=652982679426
Heats a bucket of water in minutes.
Just drop it in wires and all!
Much happier with this on a timer than I was with the 3kw immersion, as it's on a standard 13 amp circuit.
If it works I won't bother fitting another especially as I'm having trouble finding a 2kw immersion.


It’s  cheap Chinese   rubbish I wouldn’t risk my house electrics using something like this  always better to get something that’s kite marked or ce approved a lot of theses things are unsafe  and this only comes to light after there have been a series of fires or accidents then they are removed from the shelves and not allowed to be sold , however this one is a direct import from china  again be vary careful.
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Splash & dash on December 23, 2022, 02:51:45 pm
what can go wrong?bargain at £14!



What can go wrong , catch fire , overload your mains circuit, cause electrocution , there are no safety standards at all with this type of product every year across the uk there are hundreds of fires caused by using this type of thing it’s never worth the risk , buy cheap buy twice 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: deeege on December 23, 2022, 02:56:20 pm
what can go wrong?bargain at £14!



What can go wrong , catch fire , overload your mains circuit, cause electrocution , there are no safety standards at all with this type of product every year across the uk there are hundreds of fires caused by using this type of thing it’s never worth the risk , buy cheap buy twice 😂😂😂

I think Daz’s sarcasm has gone right over your head there 😂😂
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Splash & dash on December 23, 2022, 03:02:14 pm
what can go wrong?bargain at £14!



What can go wrong , catch fire , overload your mains circuit, cause electrocution , there are no safety standards at all with this type of product every year across the uk there are hundreds of fires caused by using this type of thing it’s never worth the risk , buy cheap buy twice 😂😂😂

I think Daz’s sarcasm has gone right over your head there 😂😂


Well I did wonder if it was sarcasm , but from some of his other posts thought it might be  genuine 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: SB Cleaning on December 23, 2022, 04:43:12 pm
what can go wrong?
A heart attack when the leccy bill comes.
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: dazmond on December 23, 2022, 06:09:59 pm
what can go wrong?bargain at £14!



What can go wrong , catch fire , overload your mains circuit, cause electrocution , there are no safety standards at all with this type of product every year across the uk there are hundreds of fires caused by using this type of thing it’s never worth the risk , buy cheap buy twice 😂😂😂

I think Daz’s sarcasm has gone right over your head there 😂😂


Well I did wonder if it was sarcasm , but from some of his other posts thought it might be  genuine 😂😂😂

Of course I was being sarcastic!I wouldn't trust it either!
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: windowswashed on December 23, 2022, 06:26:03 pm
Bet if you open the plug it doesn't even have a proper fuse fitted, never trust anything but British when it comes to home electrics apart from anything from Denmark.
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Post by: DJW on December 23, 2022, 08:35:22 pm
Did you get it from Ann Summers or Lovehoney?
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Post by: Den68 on December 24, 2022, 04:57:26 pm
I have a 2kw immersion heater install so not interested in a drop in immersion but just our of curiosity these drop in heaters do you drill an hole in the top of tank/tank lid as all the heat and steam would escape if you leave the lid open?
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Splash & dash on December 24, 2022, 05:19:02 pm
I have a 2kw immersion heater install so not interested in a drop in immersion but just our of curiosity these drop in heaters do you drill an hole in the top of tank/tank lid as all the heat and steam would escape if you leave the lid open?


I doubt it will heat it enough to cause any steam , provided the lid is vented it should be fine all ours only have the vent in the lids and tank temperature is regularly over 70 degrees the steam condensates on the lid and goes back into the water air in the van doesn’t contain any steam
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Den68 on December 24, 2022, 08:05:03 pm
Yes mine lid  is vented and still lets out steam at the end of working day with whatever water  is left in the tank when I undo the lid 👍
What I’m asking is do people leave their lid undone while the drop in heater is in the tank? As you won’t be able to screw the lid shut.
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Splash & dash on December 24, 2022, 08:40:15 pm
Yes mine lid  is vented and still lets out steam at the end of working day with whatever water  is left in the tank when I undo the lid 👍
What I’m asking is do people leave their lid undone while the drop in heater is in the tank? As you won’t be able to screw the lid shut.


Ah ok I see what you mean , I would just drop it in the tank and then just put the lid over it
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Pete Thompson on December 24, 2022, 09:01:52 pm
Here’s an idea ;

Most domestic RCDs fitted in consumer units respond at 30 milliseconds.

You could fit, between the plug and the heater,  a slightly more expensive RCD that responds in 10 milliseconds. That way, if you have another incident that causes a trip, it will only trip the 10ms RCD and the rest of the house will be unaffected.

(I have not tried this, it’s just an idea)
Title: Re: Immersion heater tripped electrics!
Post by: Smudger on December 25, 2022, 12:52:13 am
if your tripping an rcd - then you need to find the cause of that problem.

many years ago I use aquarium heaters - just dropped them in through the lid and loose laid it over the top

even at low temperature if its below freezing you still get steam coming off the water in the tank

Darran