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Title: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: mike1986 on December 16, 2022, 10:42:26 am
A few years back someone posted a list of every part needed to set up an immersion heater with links.m for every part. I can’t find it anywhere now. Does anyone have a link for this please?
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: Smudger on December 16, 2022, 10:46:16 am
immersion heater
Hole cutter
one of these

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111634635156?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338703917&toolid=20006&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1Cstae6YGRCu-1RlP6Rymqw51&customid=s%3AGS%3Bgc%3ACjwKCAiAy_CcBhBeEiwAcoMRHK48pOQ7g2CohnpBAMOIBDmYeiQ29Lf5zLgyQXylDVHrHYDxYwCVxhoCnx4QAvD_BwE

tool station sell them - they used to be about £8 - but that might be what they cost now

spanner
silicone sealer
and electric cable - I recommend artic flex

Darran
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: mike1986 on December 16, 2022, 10:59:35 am
Thanks Darran,

But the post I’m looking for had links for everything. I think it was posted by nathankaye maybe?
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: Smudger on December 16, 2022, 11:45:31 am
immersion can be brought from any plumb store or online like screw fix unless you want a special one

hole saw set from a diy shop

Darran
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 16, 2022, 12:23:11 pm
Immersion element, mechanical flange, arctic flex cable. If you are going 3kw you will need a certified electrician to fit a socket directly from consumer unit.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: Stoots on December 16, 2022, 12:26:02 pm
I fitted one a few years ago but ended up selling the tank before I ever used it.

Prices of 2kw immersion have shot up but 3kw are still cheap
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: G Griffin on December 16, 2022, 12:31:11 pm
Didn't Nathan, NK Services, have a YouTube channel?
There might be something on there.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: NWH on December 16, 2022, 02:01:52 pm
Squeaky clean Dave talks you through the whole process of what you need and step by step fitting one.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 16, 2022, 02:25:46 pm
The hole cutter I used is an adjustable one from Toolstation Pt no. 44999

Cut slightly under size and use the thread of the immersion heater to 'cut' the hole to size.

Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: Ian Sheppard on December 16, 2022, 03:55:20 pm
This may be of help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyKMzeCH2w&t=500s
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: zesty on December 16, 2022, 04:27:32 pm
Would have thought the cost to heat would be astronomical these days…
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: DJW on December 16, 2022, 04:27:59 pm
Think the lower power Immersions could be got from a couple of campanies.

Heatrod rings a bell.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: DJW on December 16, 2022, 04:32:02 pm
Would have thought the cost to heat would be astronomical these days…

2kw for six hours? Just under six quid at 45p per KW hour.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 16, 2022, 05:46:40 pm
Would have thought the cost to heat would be astronomical these days…

Not really if you want a bit of warmth, frost protection and supple hoses. Mine is on for about 5 hours over a 12 hour period. 2KW element costs 68p per hour at today's capped rate. So about £3.50 a night.

If you use a 1KW then leave it on all night, a 3KW about 3 hours.

Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 16, 2022, 05:47:41 pm
Would have thought the cost to heat would be astronomical these days…

2kw for six hours? Just under six quid at 45p per KW hour.

My capped rate is 34p per KW hour as a domestic user. Is yours business prices?

And of course you can claim electricity used as a business expense too.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: Den68 on December 16, 2022, 06:06:11 pm
immersion heater
Hole cutter
one of these

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111634635156?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338703917&toolid=20006&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1Cstae6YGRCu-1RlP6Rymqw51&customid=s%3AGS%3Bgc%3ACjwKCAiAy_CcBhBeEiwAcoMRHK48pOQ7g2CohnpBAMOIBDmYeiQ29Lf5zLgyQXylDVHrHYDxYwCVxhoCnx4QAvD_BwE

tool station sell them - they used to be about £8 - but that might be what they cost now

spanner
silicone sealer
and electric cable - I recommend artic flex

This is the mechanical flange I used works brilliant, and easy change out if need be, also gives a couple more millimetres as for the immersion element to fit.

Think you need a 65mm hole cutter, I only had a 64mm then gently filed the rest out was a really snug fit.

Darran
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: DJW on December 16, 2022, 06:07:20 pm
Mine was just a rough estimate of domestic use.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: DJW on December 16, 2022, 06:10:44 pm
Thanks Darran,

But the post I’m looking for had links for everything. I think it was posted by nathankaye maybe?

He did fit one but put the flange on back to front and the wrong way round. Also claimed his water was so hot he could melt cement.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 17, 2022, 12:10:09 am
Would have thought the cost to heat would be astronomical these days…

Not really if you want a bit of warmth, frost protection and supple hoses. Mine is on for about 5 hours over a 12 hour period. 2KW element costs 68p per hour at today's capped rate. So about £3.50 a night.

If you use a 1KW then leave it on all night, a 3KW about 3 hours.
I have a 3kw in a 500 upright tank, in winter with the lower ambient temperature of the water, 3 hours wouldn’t be nearly enough, unless of course you have some warm  water left over from the previous days work. From a low ambient temperature I leave mine on for 7-8 hours, 32p/kWh so under £8 per night for me.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: KS Cleaning on December 17, 2022, 12:14:08 am
Thanks Darran,

But the post I’m looking for had links for everything. I think it was posted by nathankaye maybe?

He did fit one but put the flange on back to front and the wrong way round. Also claimed his water was so hot he could melt cement.
😆😆 I think he went home everyday with about 300 litres left in his tank from a starting point of  400  litres!
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: zesty on December 17, 2022, 06:59:12 am
Would have thought the cost to heat would be astronomical these days…

Not really if you want a bit of warmth, frost protection and supple hoses. Mine is on for about 5 hours over a 12 hour period. 2KW element costs 68p per hour at today's capped rate. So about £3.50 a night.

If you use a 1KW then leave it on all night, a 3KW about 3 hours.
I have a 3kw in a 500 upright tank, in winter with the lower ambient temperature of the water, 3 hours wouldn’t be nearly enough, unless of course you have some warm  water left over from the previous days work. From a low ambient temperature I leave mine on for 7-8 hours, 32p/kWh so under £8 per night for me.

£40 a week (5 days). Wonder how that compares to the amount of diesel spent on the hot water systems.

Once the cap is removed, it’ll be a lot more.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: DJW on December 17, 2022, 08:39:53 am
But, if you are used to cold water and are frugal you would only use it during the coldest spells. Mine will be turned back off again next week so effectively cost nothing again.

I could be wrong but I think the 9kw uses just over a litre of fuel per hour flat out.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on December 17, 2022, 09:19:27 am
Would have thought the cost to heat would be astronomical these days…

Not really if you want a bit of warmth, frost protection and supple hoses. Mine is on for about 5 hours over a 12 hour period. 2KW element costs 68p per hour at today's capped rate. So about £3.50 a night.

If you use a 1KW then leave it on all night, a 3KW about 3 hours.
I have a 3kw in a 500 upright tank, in winter with the lower ambient temperature of the water, 3 hours wouldn’t be nearly enough, unless of course you have some warm  water left over from the previous days work. From a low ambient temperature I leave mine on for 7-8 hours, 32p/kWh so under £8 per night for me.
Bang on. My 500 tank with 3kw element requires 7 hours for any 'meaningful' heat! You're looking at £7 -£8 per night to make it useful. Still worth it if it gives you a days work though.👍
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: Smudger on December 17, 2022, 09:26:39 am
And the cost of fitting is around £40 (not including electrician if you need seperate plug)

As against £5k

Darran
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on December 17, 2022, 09:51:19 am
A few years back someone posted a list of every part needed to set up an immersion heater with links.m for every part. I can’t find it anywhere now. Does anyone have a link for this please?

It was me, under the name ChumBucket. Search that name + immersion and you should find it.👍
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on December 17, 2022, 09:57:48 am
A few years back someone posted a list of every part needed to set up an immersion heater with links.m for every part. I can’t find it anywhere now. Does anyone have a link for this please?

This may be it.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=190373.0
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: tlwcs on December 17, 2022, 11:27:20 am
A few years back someone posted a list of every part needed to set up an immersion heater with links.m for every part. I can’t find it anywhere now. Does anyone have a link for this please?

It was me, under the name ChumBucket. Search that name + immersion and you should find it.👍


Remember when we all used  crap names because admin wanted us to be professional
I was banned for using Issac Hunt happy days
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: DJW on December 17, 2022, 01:32:51 pm
I was threatened with a ban for using my real name!
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: Stoots on December 17, 2022, 02:21:32 pm
A few years back someone posted a list of every part needed to set up an immersion heater with links.m for every part. I can’t find it anywhere now. Does anyone have a link for this please?

This may be it.



http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=190373.0

Dont think so, that thread appears to be about a chap called Emerson.

Could be Ralph Waldo.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 17, 2022, 04:22:06 pm
Would have thought the cost to heat would be astronomical these days…

Not really if you want a bit of warmth, frost protection and supple hoses. Mine is on for about 5 hours over a 12 hour period. 2KW element costs 68p per hour at today's capped rate. So about £3.50 a night.

If you use a 1KW then leave it on all night, a 3KW about 3 hours.
I have a 3kw in a 500 upright tank, in winter with the lower ambient temperature of the water, 3 hours wouldn’t be nearly enough, unless of course you have some warm  water left over from the previous days work. From a low ambient temperature I leave mine on for 7-8 hours, 32p/kWh so under £8 per night for me.

On my regular work I just look for anti frost and supple hoses. This last week I have only gone out with about 300 litres a day so adjust the heat accordingly.

If it was just above freezing outside with no need to slow down for sweeping or salting or tradding and I wanted 500 litres warmed up for normal flow rates over a longer time I would leave it on longer.

On the rare occasions I want hotter water at the brush then it would stay on for about 12 hours.
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on December 17, 2022, 06:18:41 pm
I was threatened with a ban for using my real name!

Big Red Cock?🤣🤣
Title: Re: Trying to find an old post on immersion heater parts
Post by: DJW on December 17, 2022, 06:28:15 pm
Forgot that one!  ;D