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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jonboywalton75 on September 26, 2022, 05:41:52 pm

Title: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: jonboywalton75 on September 26, 2022, 05:41:52 pm
As above, when reeling in at the start it makes a grating sound, do I need a new belt?
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: the king on September 26, 2022, 06:22:04 pm
Sounds like you need new bearings 😬
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: jonboywalton75 on September 26, 2022, 06:30:43 pm
Sounds like you need new bearings 😬
Mmm could be 🙄
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: the king on September 26, 2022, 07:57:58 pm
My old power up hd did the same started sounding grindy rough then the bearings collapsed chain fell off 🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: alank on September 26, 2022, 08:12:39 pm
If its belt driven and not that old of a reel it's probably the belt especially if the noise only occurs when starting to reel in and the noise is not constant or noticeable when reeling in.
I've just replaced a belt on one of mine.
Started to make noise then snapped shortly after.
I'm now going to change the belts yearly when vehicle service is due as preventative maintenance.
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: Splash & dash on September 26, 2022, 08:22:39 pm
Check  the belt tension it might need adjusting
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: jonboywalton75 on September 26, 2022, 08:28:22 pm
I have tried adjusting, didn't make any difference, and yes it's only making the noise when starting up
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: jonboywalton75 on September 26, 2022, 08:29:24 pm
If its belt driven and not that old of a reel it's probably the belt especially if the noise only occurs when starting to reel in and the noise is not constant or noticeable when reeling in.
I've just replaced a belt on one of mine.
Started to make noise then snapped shortly after.
I'm now going to change the belts yearly when vehicle service is due as preventative maintenance.

Its just over a year old
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: alank on September 26, 2022, 08:47:23 pm
About the same age as mine mate.
When you look at the belt when you take it off if it has cracks in the rubber when you bend it, it will need replacing.
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: jonboywalton75 on September 26, 2022, 09:33:29 pm
Not constant noise, I'll check the belt, thanks 👍
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: dazmond on September 26, 2022, 10:10:49 pm
My pure freedom reelmaster is over 4 years old now.....

It's never missed a beat in all that time apart from the first week of buying it(chain kept coming off)....

I'd hate to have to mess about changing belts,fuses,switches,etc all the time...

The  powerup reels are simply not robust enough for the rigours of day to day  WFP window cleaning
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: Simon Trapani on September 27, 2022, 06:24:41 am
Why do you keep slagging off the 3d reels in various posts Daz? You’ve never owned one. I own two & they’re great. One of mine is nearly two years old & it hasn’t missed a beat either.

You’ll get the odd problem with anything. You’ve had some problems with your heater but we don’t go slagging grippa off.

On another thread someone has what is possibly a controller problem. What you gonna do? Slag off Spring? These things happen.

Carry spare parts. You know that. You’ve said it often enough in the past.
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: jonboywalton75 on September 27, 2022, 07:31:27 am
If its belt driven and not that old of a reel it's probably the belt especially if the noise only occurs when starting to reel in and the noise is not constant or noticeable when reeling in.
I've just replaced a belt on one of mine.
Started to make noise then snapped shortly after.
I'm now going to change the belts yearly when vehicle service is due as preventative maintenance.

Is this a good replacement?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194272248558?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Ul8QMabhRKC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=qDguqZTvQeC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Also it looks easy enough to do myself, YouTube has a good video, is it easy?
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: alank on September 27, 2022, 07:50:59 am
Don't know if that's the same belt as I just used window cleaning warehouse for mine.
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: alank on September 27, 2022, 07:53:19 am
My mate replaced mine he has his own garage and is used to doing things like that.
Should be easy enough if you have the required tools and follow the you tube video.
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: zesty on September 27, 2022, 08:09:40 am
Mines made that noise, it had moved off the spindle slightly and the plastic casing was rubbing against the frame…
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: jonboywalton75 on September 27, 2022, 09:30:18 am
Mines made that noise, it had moved off the spindle slightly and the plastic casing was rubbing against the frame…

What resulted?
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: Simon Trapani on September 27, 2022, 11:42:50 am
If its belt driven and not that old of a reel it's probably the belt especially if the noise only occurs when starting to reel in and the noise is not constant or noticeable when reeling in.
I've just replaced a belt on one of mine.
Started to make noise then snapped shortly after.
I'm now going to change the belts yearly when vehicle service is due as preventative maintenance.

Is this a good replacement?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194272248558?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Ul8QMabhRKC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=qDguqZTvQeC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Also it looks easy enough to do myself, YouTube has a good video, is it easy?

Just contact waterworks direct. I had a few questions when i bought my second reel as i wanted the outlet on the other side. The technical guy i spoke to was good as gold. Really helpful. Gave me a spare belt, relay & switch.
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: NWH on September 27, 2022, 12:32:16 pm
The videos are on YouTube for changing parts on that reel the first one I came to was the belt change.
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: jonboywalton75 on September 27, 2022, 06:56:41 pm
All sorted, changed the belt, got out this affo
Cheers for all the tips lads👍
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: zesty on September 29, 2022, 08:14:57 am
Mines made that noise, it had moved off the spindle slightly and the plastic casing was rubbing against the frame…

What resulted?

Pushed it back onto the spindle frame properly, also ordering a new belt as it’s starting to slip now, even after belt adjustment.

Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: jonboywalton75 on September 29, 2022, 04:10:47 pm
Went to window cleaning warehouse and got 2 belts for £11 each, used YouTube to fit it
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: zesty on September 30, 2022, 07:54:59 am
My pure freedom reelmaster is over 4 years old now.....

It's never missed a beat in all that time apart from the first week of buying it(chain kept coming off)....

I'd hate to have to mess about changing belts,fuses,switches,etc all the time...

The  powerup reels are simply not robust enough for the rigours of day to day  WFP window cleaning

In fairness to Daz, it is always the 3d reels that seem to have issues.

I think when I buy again, I’ll be going for a pure freedom reel. My 3d has been good, but it’s not as reliable as I’d want. Having to change the belt, and then the spindle issue is really annoying. Sounds like the pure freedom one is pretty much bullet proof, you rarely ever hear anyone starting a thread with issues with it.

Having said that, if the 3d becomes more reliable, then I’d stick with it.
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: Splash & dash on September 30, 2022, 10:45:29 am
My pure freedom reelmaster is over 4 years old now.....

It's never missed a beat in all that time apart from the first week of buying it(chain kept coming off)....

I'd hate to have to mess about changing belts,fuses,switches,etc all the time...

The  powerup reels are simply not robust enough for the rigours of day to day  WFP window cleaning

In fairness to Daz, it is always the 3d reels that seem to have issues.

I think when I buy again, I’ll be going for a pure freedom reel. My 3d has been good, but it’s not as reliable as I’d want. Having to change the belt, and then the spindle issue is really annoying. Sounds like the pure freedom one is pretty much bullet proof, you rarely ever hear anyone starting a thread with issues with it.

Having said that, if the 3d becomes more reliable, then I’d stick with it.


Trust me the pure freedom reels aren’t trouble free either I have had several issues that resulted in having to send them back to the factory , I have 6 waterworks 3 D reels and 2 pure freedom , the pure freedom are well over engineered  but still fundamentally flawed in their design, just one example , the plate that you need to remove to replace the chain or put it back on the cigs when it comes off is on the inside of the frame so you have to remove all the hose  ti get to it and do anything then the drum end is also in the way , a simple solution would be have the outside end removable  but no they make it as complicated and awkward as possible. There are many other issues as well that could be greatly improved. I have had more problems with the pure freedom reels than all the 3 D ones put together , I di like the pure freedom reels though just they need to listen to constructive criticism and alter there design. (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1664531080_E287B7EF-2EDC-42FC-8595-26F4096463BB.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1664531080_127E552E-A49A-4536-BAC7-95B666A523E2.jpeg)
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: High-Tower on September 30, 2022, 11:30:16 am
I would bet that the 3d reels are way more common too, due to being more affordable. About £250 less than the reelmasters currently.
Title: Re: Power up 3d making a grating sound
Post by: the king on October 03, 2022, 09:17:53 pm
anyone tryed the xline one looks good but of kit