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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Mike Halliday on September 26, 2022, 04:02:32 pm

Title: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: Mike Halliday on September 26, 2022, 04:02:32 pm
So I have this unit that I want to use for applying TFR onto F&S before cleaning. I need to fit a trigger so it’s not spraying all the time, when I cut off the flow the pump is not turning off… more like the pump motor is straining. I’m guessing the pressure switch is faulty or needs adjusting

Any opinions?

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1664204135_E5296232-87AB-4F2D-8297-0E7ABB898909.jpeg)
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: NWH on September 26, 2022, 04:03:54 pm
Just disconnect it and bypass it you don’t need a switch on a pump.
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: NWH on September 26, 2022, 04:04:34 pm
Just use the 2 wires that come out the top of the pump I’ve done that forever.
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: JandS on September 26, 2022, 04:33:51 pm
Only problem connecting battery straight to pump is pump is pumping at maximum all the time......wear on pump and wasting TFR.
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: Spruce on September 26, 2022, 05:11:45 pm
So I have this unit that I want to use for applying TFR onto F&S before cleaning. I need to fit a trigger so it’s not spraying all the time, when I cut off the flow the pump is not turning off… more like the pump motor is straining. I’m guessing the pressure switch is faulty or needs adjusting

Any opinions?

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1664204135_E5296232-87AB-4F2D-8297-0E7ABB898909.jpeg)



On the pump's head there is a small pressure switch adjusting screw. You need a tiny Allen Key to adust it. It looks like you will have to remove the pump from the box to see it. If memory serves me, turn it anti-clockwise reduces the pressure the switch cuts out on.

Now, if that doesn't work, then there is the possibility that the contacts of the microswitch switch have fused together. You will then have to replace the microswitch.
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: Mike Halliday on September 26, 2022, 05:22:27 pm
Spruce, I thought of that, I’ve actually drilled an half inch hole in the box directly under the pump to access the adjustment screw  I turned it a complete turn anti-clockwise to see if it made a difference but not.

J&S, I think if I connect both wires going to the pressure switch it will still go through the controller to adjust the pressure, as long as likeNWH says the pump will still be ok
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: NWH on September 26, 2022, 05:31:33 pm
You don’t need to include the pressure switch at all unless it’s a warranty job that I’ve had a pump installed with say the heater etc,everytime I’ve installed a pump I’ve always disconnected the switch and just wired up with the 2 wires out of the top of the pump.
Trust me the pumps last longer. 
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: NWH on September 26, 2022, 05:32:32 pm
The new V16 controller detects when you’ve dead ended the pole or pulled the univalve and will still shut the pump off.
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: NWH on September 26, 2022, 05:34:02 pm
The old wiring on that lot looks top notch 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: Missing Link on October 01, 2022, 10:02:09 pm
Spruce, I thought of that, I’ve actually drilled an half inch hole in the box directly under the pump to access the adjustment screw  I turned it a complete turn anti-clockwise to see if it made a difference but not.

J&S, I think if I connect both wires going to the pressure switch it will still go through the controller to adjust the pressure, as long as likeNWH says the pump will still be ok

As Spruce has said, it'll  be the pressure switch.  It's been a good few years since I've replaced one, but they're not hard to do. 

I think it was about £3 for a new switch.

If you want to do this option, let me know; I'm sure I've a spare pressure switch knocking about (somewhere).  I'll dig it out and the markings on the side will let me know what kind you need.
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: windowswashed on October 02, 2022, 12:22:24 am
You don’t need to include the pressure switch at all unless it’s a warranty job that I’ve had a pump installed with say the heater etc,everytime I’ve installed a pump I’ve always disconnected the switch and just wired up with the 2 wires out of the top of the pump.
Trust me the pumps last longer.

Always done it the same way, on my second flojet pump in 20years.
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 02, 2022, 12:32:52 pm
So I bypassed the flow switch and now it blows the fuse after about 5 seconds  :'(
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: Smudger on October 02, 2022, 12:44:13 pm
have you disconnected the pressure switch?

test the pump by putting the pos and neg wires to a battery to see if it runs ok

Darran
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: CleanClear on October 02, 2022, 03:42:06 pm
So I bypassed the flow switch and now it blows the fuse after about 5 seconds  :'(

What controller have you got on it ?
Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 02, 2022, 05:38:57 pm
This one

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Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: CleanClear on October 02, 2022, 05:49:12 pm
Ok, pretty sure that is just a PWM motor controller. You will need to use your pressure switch. You need to pull the pump out the box and replace the microswitch.

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Title: Re: Pressure switch problem?
Post by: Smudger on October 02, 2022, 07:33:46 pm
Yes pressure switch needed - have used these in the past - never again - just buy a spring manufactured item -

Darran